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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:30:53 GMT
Back to the same old argument about not having to agree with everyone. Nobody is saying you do. You're entitled to your own opinions. But when your opinions are constantly to the contrary of the traditions and values that most people believe the club is about, you have to start asking questions.
I've also not forgotten how quiet you were when Ole started in such excellent fashion. Most people on here were revelling in the performances and results and you were largely trying to kick up the same old conversations about the board and spending. Like you were unhappy with the positivity. It was odd. Again, entitled to have those conversations but the timing and placing of them spoke volumes to me.
Well the board and spending remains relevant under every manager. If they want to support them they won’t expect them to make do in January when it’s obvious this squad isn’t good enough. We can argue all we want but we saw that last night when the starting 11 was changed! As for Ole, they should have fired Jose in the summer, a caretaker shouldn’t have happened in the first place! I hope he does well, just because I don’t write sentimental crap on here about it doesn’t mean I don’t! As for my opinions being against the traditions and values of the club well that’s the biggest load of bollocks I’ve read on here and that takes some beating. That’s up there with support your local team and you’re not from Manchester kind of crap. I was born a mile from Newton Heath if we want to go down that silly road! So your opinions are completely in tow with the values and traditions of the club because you were born near Newton Heath?
Thanks for clearing that up. It's not like we have fans and members of this forum who are knowledgeable about the club and hold it's values dear that aren't from the Manchester area, is it?
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Post by Bestie on Jan 30, 2019 10:35:54 GMT
"But...But everyone should spell everything correctly." No, as long as its not 100% incorrect and you can actually tell who is being referred too then its making a comment just for the sake of it. Christ on a bike. This isn't misspelling generic words. It is literally players' names. Give over.
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Post by redcase on Jan 30, 2019 10:39:32 GMT
Lads , if we could all just be patient...
I'd like to get my popcorn so we can kick things off properly .
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Post by Stew on Jan 30, 2019 10:42:31 GMT
No I have a dislike for some of our players being built up in the way they have been whereas others are mocked. Mc Tominay and Pereria are excellent examples. There is so much sentimentality when it comes to our own players! As for the WUM bit, I didn’t realise I had to agree with everyone. Seems to be a pattern on here? Even Grandad fucked off cause he got fed up! Others mocked like, Fellani. And? Im still waiting for an answer to this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:45:11 GMT
Just on Pereira. A lot of the better stuff he did out on loan in Spain was out wide, particularly on the right from the games I saw. Might be worth sticking him on one of the flanks next time we're without Martial and/or Lingard. I'd rather see that than Lukaku or Sanchez stinking the place out again anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:46:54 GMT
"But...But everyone should spell everything correctly." No, as long as its not 100% incorrect and you can actually tell who is being referred too then its making a comment just for the sake of it. Christ on a bike. This isn't misspelling generic words. It is literally players' names. Give over. It is still 100% irrelevant how they are spelled. Shit, maybe we should just refer to players based upon shirt numbers then so you can get off that high horse. I've also noticed a senior member of the board with a spelling mistake within the last 2 pages, I don't see you making the comment to them.
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Post by akane1984 on Jan 30, 2019 10:50:46 GMT
2 points dropped but a lot of those players went a long way to repairing reputations and character that may have been questioned or damaged under the previous regime. They controlled the game and for sloppy finishing should have been leading but it was the nature of the comeback that tells the most about what has changed under Ole. To every man they wanted to get that ball back and move it fast up the pitch to get themselves level and even then they felt they could then win it. That mentality can only get stronger and bodes well for the future imo.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 30, 2019 10:57:29 GMT
This isn't misspelling generic words. It is literally players' names. Give over. It is still 100% irrelevant how they are spelled. Shit, maybe we should just refer to players based upon shirt numbers then so you can get off that high horse. I've also noticed a senior member of the board with a spelling mistake within the last 2 pages, I don't see you making the comment to them. Haven't noticed it - who was it? Happy to correct them as well. I find it distracting when we're talking about players but don't get their names right. If it's little-known youngsters or transfer targets it's understandable. When it's players who have been about for ages it seems, I dunno, disengaged or something. It is more about that Karma misspelled Pereira a few times and may have it wrong. The McTominay thing was simply because my surname is a Mc- and it annoys me when people put the gap in. I'm not meaning to be ratty about it. Personally if I am spelling something incorrectly I prefer someone corrects me. For the life of me I still can never remember how to spell Kus zczak without looking it up. (It's that first 'z'. Always gets me.)
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Post by Stew on Jan 30, 2019 10:58:06 GMT
Just on Pereira. A lot of the better stuff he did out on loan in Spain was out wide, particularly on the right from the games I saw. Might be worth sticking him on one of the flanks next time we're without Martial and/or Lingard. I'd rather see that than Lukaku or Sanchez stinking the place out again anyway. Whenever I watched him (and I remember talking to you during those times) he was either wide or very advanced, CAM, almost a second striker. Not sure where this idea of him being some sort of deep playmaker has come from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 10:59:41 GMT
Lookaku needs to start from the bench, we seem to be slower when he starts, Perierira hasn't done himself any favours but cant put too much blame on the lad, we had our own chances to put the game to bed well before the mistake.
Thought we played much better when Lindgard came on. Lindlov picked a good time to score his first for us as well.
Frustrating game on the whole but managed to pull it back in typical fashion.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 30, 2019 10:59:46 GMT
Just on Pereira. A lot of the better stuff he did out on loan in Spain was out wide, particularly on the right from the games I saw. Might be worth sticking him on one of the flanks next time we're without Martial and/or Lingard. I'd rather see that than Lukaku or Sanchez stinking the place out again anyway. Whenever I watched him (and I remember talking to you during those times) he was either wide or very advanced, CAM, almost a second striker. Not sure where this idea of him being some sort of deep playmaker has come from. Jose. Or, retro-ly, Fergie in his midfielder blind spot years. Ando, Smudge spring to mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 11:09:17 GMT
The hate for Pereira is what's staggering. I wonder how many people who are being overly critical of him bothered to watch him in the reserves or bothered to tune into any of the times he played whilst out on loan? He's hardly had a fucking chance ffs. And before people start asking why he hasn't featured much under Ole. Well, he's been on the bench instead of McTominay, who most people here seem to be happy with as a squad player. None of that means he'll make it here but call me crazy, maybe we could allow him a little more time before we throw him to the dogs after making just 5 starts in a season. Same goes for those that have written Fred off as well. Barely given a chance and when he has its here and there. Cant expect a player hit the ground running when he's only played once or twice in a dozen games. I know I called him a useless cunt last night, that was more out of frustration in the moment. As I said previously had we taken our chances the game would have been buried by that time so as annoying as it would have been he wouldn't have had so much flack given that we went a goal down instead. From what I've seen so far its questionable if he will make it here, not just down to his own ability but also because hes not playing often enough, maybe that will change with Ole rotating im not sure. He's shown he's a talented lad just hope he shows it more when he does play or I cant see him lasting here.
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Post by aussiegraham on Jan 30, 2019 11:10:45 GMT
Just watched the game again and Mata, who’s been slated by a few, was the one that passed to Lingard for the penalty and won the corner from which we eventually equalized. Would those sequence of events happened if he hadn’t been playing?
Whatever, I didn’t think he was that bad personally.
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Post by Stew on Jan 30, 2019 11:20:49 GMT
Just watched the game again and Mata, who’s been slated by a few, was the one that passed to Lingard for the penalty and won the corner from which we eventually equalized. Would those sequence of events happened if he hadn’t been playing? Whatever, I didn’t think he was that bad personally. That’s certainly the glass half full version.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 11:36:02 GMT
Jesus! we drew and are 9 games unbeaten after getting rid of the miserable one. Wouldn't know it today.
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