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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 12:36:21 GMT
There's talk of selling Rashford
There's talk of selling Rashford.
I can't think of the right words.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 12:39:40 GMT
There are a lot of presumptions there though. He could quite easily remain inconsistent as we are seeing now. I can’t see him anywhere near Rooney’s level ever though unfortunately! A bit Dogmatic TBH. If you even look at his stats compared to Ronaldo at the same stage. Rashford is playing in a much tougher league with much more competition in a much worse team. He is exceptionally good for his age, 3 managers, changes in formation style haven't helped. He will get better His numbers are better over long periods when comparing minutes played to goals and assists. He doesn't quite have their genius but the numbers are good for still such a good player. Some people just lose their minds at times. |
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Post by Stew on Apr 11, 2019 12:41:59 GMT
Lukaku is older and way more experienced. Rashford has also spent a lot of time wide accommodating Ibra and now Lukaku. He’s a far more intelligent footballer than Lukaku, who has no idea how to use his attributes. Put both of them on the market and the difference in quality of clubs trying to buy them would be huge. I shouldn’t have to explain to a Utd fan that Rashford is going to be one of the stars of European football in years to come. And you’d sell him. Accommodating? A good job he wasn't around in the Fergie era then? Zlatan is the main reason we have 2 trophies! We should re visit this thread in a few years and see who is right! I’ll happily do so but I doubt you’ll hold your hands up when you’ve been proven wrong. |
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Post by Stew on Apr 11, 2019 12:42:57 GMT
There's talk of selling Rashford There's talk of selling Rashford. I can't think of the right words. There aren’t any. Maybe a primordial sound but not even sure on that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 12:46:16 GMT
There's talk of selling Rashford There's talk of selling Rashford. I can't think of the right words. There aren’t any. Maybe a primordial sound but not even sure on that. Yeah, speechless. |
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Post by _ on Apr 11, 2019 12:48:53 GMT
A bit Dogmatic TBH. If you even look at his stats compared to Ronaldo at the same stage. Rashford is playing in a much tougher league with much more competition in a much worse team. He is exceptionally good for his age, 3 managers, changes in formation style haven't helped. He will get better His numbers are better over long periods when comparing minutes played to goals and assists. He doesn't quite have their genius but the numbers are good for still such a good player. Some people just lose their minds at times. I know but it's hard for some people to remember that Ronnie took off like a Rocket in his 4th 5th and 6th The first three full seasons were pretty mediocre especially the first 2 and he had a full season in Portugal before that. He had very mixed performances in those early years |
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Post by Stew on Apr 11, 2019 12:54:17 GMT
His numbers are better over long periods when comparing minutes played to goals and assists. He doesn't quite have their genius but the numbers are good for still such a good player. Some people just lose their minds at times. I know but it's hard for some people to remember that Ronnie took off like a Rocket in his 4th 5th and 6th The first three full seasons were pretty mediocre especially the first 2 and he had a full season in Portugal before that. He had very mixed performances in those early years True. He got POTY early on but a lot of that was due to Utd being average in general. He was clearly talented but maddening and no one was predicting what he was to become. But yeah Rashford is shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 12:56:14 GMT
His numbers are better over long periods when comparing minutes played to goals and assists. He doesn't quite have their genius but the numbers are good for still such a good player. Some people just lose their minds at times. I know but it's hard for some people to remember that Ronnie took off like a Rocket in his 4th 5th and 6th The first three full seasons were pretty mediocre especially the first 2 and he had a full season in Portugal before that. He had very mixed performances in those early years And it was the same with Rooney. When Ruud went they both kicked on but you'd get some utter garbage out of them. Rooney woukd go on these longs streaks without scoring and you'd wonder whe it would end. Difference is back the we had the likes of Giggs, Scholes and Ruud but we were still pretty average while we were waiting for Rooney and Ronaldo too level up. |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Apr 11, 2019 13:08:35 GMT
Karma is correct on one thing regarding Rashford. Rashford is not as good as Rooney was at the same age.
However, beyond that, the idea that United should have stuck with Tree and Lukaku over Martial and Rashford is telling. Mourinho was on that path and we saw what happened when fully implemented ... the shellacking at anfield.
We all have blind spots for certain players. I myself would prefer to have a half crocked Welbeck still at United so I understand her process.
Lukaku is expendable because he is inconsistent against lower half teams and non-existent against top teams. He is not a natural fit for a counter attacking team as he lacks industry over 90 minutes - tbf all of the United forwards lack this in abundance - and he cannot for the life of him make his own space with the ball. He pops up with the odd goal, and that one magical run of 6 in 3, however, to suggest he is the better option up top ignores the obvious ... Lukaku misses too many real opportunities in the box. He simply is not clinical enough to overcome his lack of skill in other areas.
I appreciate the dogged support, however, I think it is a step too far to suggest Lukaku is the better investment than Rashford.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 13:10:41 GMT
Karma is correct on one thing regarding Rashford. Rashford is not as good as Rooney was at the same age. However, beyond that, the idea that United should have stuck with Tree and Lukaku over Martial and Rashford is telling. Mourinho was on that path and we saw what happened when fully implemented ... the shellacking at anfield. We all have blind spots for certain players. I myself would prefer to have a half crocked Welbeck still at United so I understand her process. Lukaku is expendable because he is inconsistent against lower half teams and non-existent against top teams. He is not a natural fit for a counter attacking team as he lacks industry over 90 minutes - tbf all of the United forwards lack this in abundance - and he cannot for the life of him make his own space with the ball. He pops up with the odd goal, and that one magical run of 6 in 3, however, to suggest he is the better option up top ignores the obvious ... Lukaku misses too many real opportunities in the box. He simply is not clinical enough to overcome his lack of skill in other areas. I appreciate the dogged support, however, I think it is a step too far to suggest Lukaku is the better investment than Rashford. Huge difference being Rooney wasn't played out of position and had talent around him setting him up game after game. Rashford doesn't have that luxury. He's either played on the wing or when he is playing in the middle he's getting no service. |
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Post by weetomsligaments on Apr 11, 2019 13:14:13 GMT
Karma is correct on one thing regarding Rashford. Rashford is not as good as Rooney was at the same age. However, beyond that, the idea that United should have stuck with Tree and Lukaku over Martial and Rashford is telling. Mourinho was on that path and we saw what happened when fully implemented ... the shellacking at anfield. We all have blind spots for certain players. I myself would prefer to have a half crocked Welbeck still at United so I understand her process. Lukaku is expendable because he is inconsistent against lower half teams and non-existent against top teams. He is not a natural fit for a counter attacking team as he lacks industry over 90 minutes - tbf all of the United forwards lack this in abundance - and he cannot for the life of him make his own space with the ball. He pops up with the odd goal, and that one magical run of 6 in 3, however, to suggest he is the better option up top ignores the obvious ... Lukaku misses too many real opportunities in the box. He simply is not clinical enough to overcome his lack of skill in other areas. I appreciate the dogged support, however, I think it is a step too far to suggest Lukaku is the better investment than Rashford. Huge difference being Rooney wasn't played out of position and had talent around him setting him up game after game. Rashford doesn't have that luxury. He's either played on the wing or when he is playing in the middle he's getting no service. Aye. But that fat scouse could score. And his industry was fantastic. Rashford has the potential. Rooney had the results. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 13:16:01 GMT
Front three of
Martial - Rashford - Sancho.
Goals should be a problem for any of them. Only team I know of at this level to switch players constantly or bench them when there's no need.
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Post by redcase on Apr 11, 2019 13:17:03 GMT
Rooney , along with Ronaldo and Messi , was a generational talent. If that fucker had kept his body in shape one can only wonder what he'd have accomplished..
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Apr 11, 2019 14:04:14 GMT
Rooney , along with Ronaldo and Messi , was a generational talent. If that fucker had kept his body in shape one can only wonder what he'd have accomplished.. Yep, no shame in Rashford not being as good as him at the same age. In fact, at age 18/19 Rooney was better than either of those two. The only player since Rooney to match his quality at such a young age is Mbappe. I know Rashford is a bit older than that, but the point is that Rooney's development was highly unusual. Rashford is following a more standard growth cycle and at age 21 he's still got plenty of time ahead of him. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Apr 11, 2019 14:08:45 GMT
Look at how sterling has kicked on under a top coach, it's ridiculous to even think of selling rashford with age will come his consistency and hopefully his game will mature, I can't see anything other then him being a massive player when he's 23/24
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