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Post by Stew on Apr 21, 2019 20:57:10 GMT
Not read the thread, but has Rashford taken any pelters for today. He was as bad as anyone else. To be honest, everyone has been getting it. And rightly so. |
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Post by Carbon on Apr 21, 2019 20:57:14 GMT
I'm just glad that I don't have to show my face in work tomorrow. What have I just seen? |
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Post by Tatty on Apr 21, 2019 21:00:38 GMT
Not read the thread, but has Rashford taken any pelters for today. He was as bad as anyone else. To be honest, everyone has been getting it. And rightly so. Fair play. Only positive today was that it ended some careers. Gana Gueye was made to look like Makelele ffs. |
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Post by Tatty on Apr 21, 2019 21:02:34 GMT
Also, I’ll say this. I’ll be happy enough with Europa. It’s what the bellends deserve. Every single player. Woodward. The Glazers. Only one who doesn’t deserve it is Ole.
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Post by Karma on Apr 21, 2019 21:07:34 GMT
Also, I’ll say this. I’ll be happy enough with Europa. It’s what the bellends deserve. Every single player. Woodward. The Glazers. Only one who doesn’t deserve it is Ole. After this last month I think playing the farmers of Azerbaijan would be a test for some of them tbh. Fa trophy might be more our level. |
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Post by Tatty on Apr 21, 2019 21:15:51 GMT
Also, why was Big Vic at RB when
darmian, a perfectly decent actual RB was in the squad? I thought the days of square pegs in round holes were supposed to be over.
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Post by Stew on Apr 21, 2019 21:20:06 GMT
Also, why was Big Vic at RB when darmian, a perfectly decent actual RB was in the squad? I thought the days of square pegs in round holes were supposed to be over. Moving our best CB to full back has been a disaster. That one is on Ole in fairness. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 22:02:38 GMT
Also, why was Big Vic at RB when darmian, a perfectly decent actual RB was in the squad? I thought the days of square pegs in round holes were supposed to be over. Most of tht team needs putting in a Black hole. |
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Post by simon46 on Apr 21, 2019 22:10:25 GMT
Martial has been wank ever since the ink on his new contract dried. Pogba has been half in it ever since getting sent off against PSG, and completely on holiday ever since Zidane went back to Real. Rashford hasn't found his form after playing injured against the scouse. Lukaku is Lukaku, I like him, but he's just not up to it and usually doesn't show up when it matters. This very second Lingard is probably practicing Fortnite dance moves in front of his mirror while wearing a hat from his clothing line before posting the video on social media. Just a bunch of fucking weaklings. It's frustrating because these are good players, some of them good enough to challenge for individual awards, but there's no bottle, or drive, or fucking passion. None of them would get close to our early/mid 90s team or treble winning team, or the '08 team. They don't work hard enough, and they don't care enough. I've had enough of all of them. Absolutely correct. Then add on top of this that we have no proper senior professionals on the pitch to help set the standards expected of the younger players and we are completely in the shit. We have crap like Smalling, Matic and Jones. The only one with any football intelligence, leadership or balls is Ander Herrara and Woodward has fucked things up so badly there he is leaving. |
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Post by aussiegraham on Apr 21, 2019 22:26:54 GMT
Have a day out planned with visitors from the UK. Brother in law and I were going to wear our United shirts to show solidarity to the club. But fuck it, the players don’t deserve it and we decided we couldn’t take the shit from any other traveling Poms we might meet!
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Post by jkr on Apr 21, 2019 22:33:42 GMT
Martial has been wank ever since the ink on his new contract dried. Pogba has been half in it ever since getting sent off against PSG, and completely on holiday ever since Zidane went back to Real. Rashford hasn't found his form after playing injured against the scouse. Lukaku is Lukaku, I like him, but he's just not up to it and usually doesn't show up when it matters. This very second Lingard is probably practicing Fortnite dance moves in front of his mirror while wearing a hat from his clothing line before posting the video on social media. Just a bunch of fucking weaklings. It's frustrating because these are good players, some of them good enough to challenge for individual awards, but there's no bottle, or drive, or fucking passion. None of them would get close to our early/mid 90s team or treble winning team, or the '08 team. They don't work hard enough, and they don't care enough. I've had enough of all of them. Absolutely correct. Then add on top of this that we have no proper senior professionals on the pitch to help set the standards expected of the younger players and we are completely in the shit. We have crap like Smalling, Matic and Jones. The only one with any football intelligence, leadership or balls is Ander Herrara and Woodward has fucked things up so badly there he is leaving. Agree wholeheartedly, zero leaders in this ragtag bunch of wankers. I'm a United fan since I was a child in the 70's seen great times and terrible and can say hands down I've never felt more disconnected from a group of United players. There's been many United players down the years that weren't up to it but showing no bottle at all was unthinkable and wouldn't be tolerated. Having seen Ole's post match presser it's clear he's had his fill with this group of players as well and can't wait to ring the changes in the summer, hopefully the club give him free reign - I'm not holding my breath on that happening tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 23:18:37 GMT
Apart from the PSG game everything has been shit since we played Liverpool. I think it's a simple as fitness issues. Our pre season was a joke and it seems like we've completely run out if gas. I think it could be that simple. The players did a lot of running after Ole came, very little before that. I think they are shot.
Not an excuse for them because our mentality sucks too, I just think that's why the collapse is happening.
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Post by . on Apr 21, 2019 23:36:08 GMT
Just on what Tatty said about Rashford, it never ceases to amaze me, who's decision was it to let him take the majority of our set pieces??
You can predict his free-kicks are sailing over the bar and he can't take a corner to save his life. He has an inability to clear the first man. This was going on pre Ole too.
Also, secondly on the disconnect between United fans and the current squad. Absolutely, there is no connection between the fans and players whatsoever.
They're more interested in new haircuts and Instagram accounts.
Also, there's a good chunk of the squad who have their agents in their ear pushing for a move, so ignoring the fans is totally fine because the likelihood is they'll be elsewhere in August.
Why genuinely care? They're selfish Prima-donna's.
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Post by Kojak on Apr 21, 2019 23:40:23 GMT
I say it every week, but they’re all cowards. They’re all too happy to hide. There’s not an ounce of bravery in any of them. That to me was a trademark of the successful United teams under Fergie. Now, whether we need better leaders to bring it out of some of them, or whether they all just outright don’t have it, I don’t know. But right now there’s no fucking courage in any of them.
There’s a whole lot of “I’d like to buy him for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth” players in this squad. Sadly, we’ve done it the wrong way round with most of them.
You’re inclined to spare Dave a bit because he’s been excellent for years, but that doesn’t excuse the lack of professionalism in ceasing to concentrate and give a fuck because you’ve not got the deal you’re demanding. And when you’re wearing the armband too. But when the rot has reached Dave, you know you’re in fucking trouble, because he’s still been exceptional during each and every crisis we’ve had in the last 5 years. And there’s been a lot of them.
We know all about the two Chuckle Brothers at CB. We’ve watched them for far too long. Rojo is the type of character we probably need at CB. A proper cunt. Unfortunately he has no footballing ability whatsoever. Bailly doesn’t have a brain, and outside of his good start has looked like a jumped up Kolo Toure on a mad one. Lindelof would survive the cull, and quite rightly should be largely absolved of criticism today, although worth noting he played a lot of games at RB before joining. I think Darmian is shite, but would agree with Tatty that if he’s on the payroll, he should be the one being utilised as he is a specialist RB. Young isn’t worth mentioning, Dalot and Shaw would survive, although I’m still not fully sold on Shaw.
Matic is finished, and it’s not good enough for him to be coming out and blaming himself. That doesn’t make a difference to anything. He’s an embarrassment of a player. Barring covering a fair bit of ground the last few weeks, Fred has looked fucking shite. He’d maybe be given some benefit of the doubt what with him walking into an absolute disaster of a midfield. Ander is brave, but isn’t a United player anymore. Pereira looks out of his depth whenever he features. Mata looks like a 45 year old legend playing in Soccer Aid who has kept himself in reasonable nick in the decade since he retired. Pogba might be the biggest coward of the lot of them. A luxury player. One of them you have to carry. But you accept carrying a luxury player when they turn up and change games every week. Pogba doesn’t do that, and he flat out doesn’t give a shit.
Martial has been barbaric of late, and everyone is probably running out of patience waiting for him to fulfil this potential we’ve all banged on about for years whilst letting him off for his inconsistency and laziness. Lukaku wasn’t a United striker from the moment we bought him. We’ve never played with big lumps. And with his attributes, he should be Drogba. He should be bullying defenders. But he doesn’t. The warning signs were there when Daley Blind physically dominated him in 3 games in one season. Rashford’s been just as bad after his initial resurgence under Ole. Wasteful as fuck. Selfish. Petulant. I think he needs separating from Lingard, like two naughty kids in the classroom. One always has more talent and the other one’s dragging him down. Fuck that clown off somewhere else, make Rashford stand on his own two feet.
I don’t even know why I still care enough to waste my time writing all this after the last 5 years. The players certainly don’t care that much. I should’ve just wrote “We know that the players have to improve but words mean little: we have to give everything for this club” and left it at that.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Apr 22, 2019 7:47:22 GMT
Also, I’ll say this. I’ll be happy enough with Europa. It’s what the bellends deserve. Every single player. Woodward. The Glazers. Only one who doesn’t deserve it is Ole. I'd argue Dave still doesn't, even if he's made some mistakes. Nor Lindelof, he's been good and works hard. The rest though. |
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