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Post by _ on Apr 24, 2019 21:27:50 GMT
Seriously now, what's actually happened to us after a great start under Ole? Why have we gone back to Jose, except probably worse? I cant figure out what it is The players are obviously being stupid however Ole' doesn't appear to be able to motivate them I don't think it's just a coincidence that it started around the Pogba Real flirting and De Gea's contract. Also Herrera and Mata hit a brick wall
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Post by Karma on Apr 24, 2019 21:28:23 GMT
After an encouraging run of games we are now worse than what Jose left behind.If we are honest apart from the first few games we still look like a team of strangers, I still don’t identify a style of play, possibly a counter attacking one , we are toothless upfront . 5 players minimum in summer or we are fucked next season. I can't agree with that. I think we'll beat the rents on Sunday and will probably be level or a point or so off 4th instead of 12, when he left We are defo in the same boat with a load of shit players, but he gave up at the start of the season That start we got under Ole will cease to be relevant if this continues. I don’t think we will win against Chelsea. We were lucky against West Ham and Watford. That West Ham game was dire. We know how these owners work unfortunately and I have absolutely no faith in Ed in the summer and unfortunately I can see another sacking sooner rather than later. All the plans to hire a DOF have appeared to be shelved or it will be a watered down version of what we were expecting.
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Post by On a break on Apr 24, 2019 21:28:42 GMT
Seriously now, what's actually happened to us after a great start under Ole? Why have we gone back to Jose, except probably worse? I cant figure out what it is We don’t have the players it’s as simple as that, a change of manager can’t make this group of players any better, it’s worrying how far we have dropped away though, City have showed tonight how far away we are.
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Post by Carbon on Apr 24, 2019 21:29:37 GMT
The players are obviously being stupid however Ole' doesn't appear to be able to motivate them I don't think it's just a coincidence that it started around the Pogba Real flirting and De Gea's contract. Also Herrera and Mata hit a brick wall Toxic is a word I'd use
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Post by _ on Apr 24, 2019 21:29:43 GMT
The players are obviously being stupid however Ole' doesn't appear to be able to motivate them I don't think it's just a coincidence that it started around the Pogba Real flirting and De Gea's contract. Also Herrera and Mata hit a brick wall I suppose you add to that Herrera saying he was off to PSG and Lukaku joining in. They aren't focused and some are genuinely not fit
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Post by jmcg on Apr 24, 2019 21:34:06 GMT
Seriously now, what's actually happened to us after a great start under Ole? Why have we gone back to Jose, except probably worse? I cant figure out what it is We don’t have the players it’s as simple as that, a change of manager can’t make this group of players any better, it’s worrying how far we have dropped away though, City have showed tonight how far away we are. This is really where we need to stand by the manager. If we sack Ole, who do we turn to? There isn’t a manager out there that can win things with this squad. Time to be ruthless and let players go even if it means a financial loss
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Post by _ on Apr 24, 2019 21:34:42 GMT
I can't agree with that. I think we'll beat the rents on Sunday and will probably be level or a point or so off 4th instead of 12, when he left We are defo in the same boat with a load of shit players, but he gave up at the start of the season That start we got under Ole will cease to be relevant if this continues. I don’t think we will win against Chelsea. We were lucky against West Ham and Watford. That West Ham game was dire. We know how these owners work unfortunately and I have absolutely no faith in Ed in the summer and unfortunately I can see another sacking sooner rather than later. All the plans to hire a DOF have appeared to be shelved or it will be a watered down version of what we were expecting. Yeah probably. I want this season over now.. Fuck all that transfer gossip too. I've no interest until it's finished and the season starts
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Post by Karma on Apr 24, 2019 21:35:14 GMT
Seriously now, what's actually happened to us after a great start under Ole? Why have we gone back to Jose, except probably worse? I cant figure out what it is We don’t have the players it’s as simple as that, a change of manager can’t make this group of players any better, it’s worrying how far we have dropped away though, City have showed tonight how far away we are. The owners thought 2nd place allowed them to take their foot off the gas. Our defence has been protected by the previous 2 managers who were accused of being risk averse. Maybe it wasn’t just a coincidence the way they played. We have so much shit it’s unreal. We can’t keep make mistakes in the transfer window because Ed refuses to move them on along with the deadwood. You reap what you sow. Ours are mid table.
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Post by thesheepdog on Apr 24, 2019 21:37:25 GMT
Thought they played ok today
But I'm going on my rant anyway
As Ed is incapable of making one good decision football wise I will make them for him
1. Give DDG a proper contract
2. Give Anders a new contract, he actually gives a shit plus he will cost 40 mill to replace
3. Cut your loses on the dross and sell / give them away stop trying to recoup your losses ( Rojo, darmian,bailey, jones)
4. Get rid of sanches his wages and shitness is unsettling the whole team
5. Sell lukaku
6. If pogba wants gone well sell him as well
7. Keep the folowing and look after them, shaw, lindelof, rashford,
8 give martial one more year if still same as been this year cash in
9. Keep certain squad players inc young, smalling, lingard, matic. Marta and Fred
10. Start buying players with premiership experience from clubs outside top 6 inc centre back, right winger, right fullback. Wolves players would be nice
11. Stop getting your pud pulled by players at real Madrid. Barcelona etc look elsewhere
12 buy a world class centre forward and an older experienced one in the sheringham mode and buy a decent central midfielder. Concentrate on pace and skill not big and daft
13 fill the rest of the squad with youth players
14 get a director of football in and don't make any future football decisions yourself
Do that you fucking bellend and we might start to turn the tide
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Post by Karma on Apr 24, 2019 21:37:51 GMT
That start we got under Ole will cease to be relevant if this continues. I don’t think we will win against Chelsea. We were lucky against West Ham and Watford. That West Ham game was dire. We know how these owners work unfortunately and I have absolutely no faith in Ed in the summer and unfortunately I can see another sacking sooner rather than later. All the plans to hire a DOF have appeared to be shelved or it will be a watered down version of what we were expecting. Yeah probably. I want this season over now.. Fuck all that transfer gossip too. I've no interest until it's finished and the season starts I didn’t think the Moyes season could be bettered but this runs it close. Truly dreadful from start to finish apart from a sprinkling of joy in between.
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Post by smithy2 on Apr 24, 2019 21:38:34 GMT
Seriously though why did Jose buy Fred?
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Post by Karma on Apr 24, 2019 21:41:05 GMT
Seriously though why did Jose buy Fred? For the same reason they got Sanchez.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Apr 24, 2019 21:43:36 GMT
That’s relegation form . 8 defeats in 10 is it now? Europa is the least of our worries. At this rate Ole will be gone by Christmas. All of this is on the players, not Ole. He needs to be backed to get rid of the overdue deadwood and replace them. Every single last bit of it. I’ve said it before but no manager alive is getting a title challenge out of this collection of over paid over indulged under worked spineless mercenaries. I’m so pissed off at the lot of them that I didn’t even bother with commas in that last sentence. Either they don’t care enough to put in a consistent effort or they can’t handle a bit or adversity. Either way they showed their true colours and Ole needs to be backed in the summer to make any and all changes necessary.
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Post by smithy2 on Apr 24, 2019 21:44:07 GMT
Seriously though why did Jose buy Fred? For the same reason they got Sanchez. Nah Fred made far less sense. Obscure Brazilian in the Ukraine and right before the World Cup as well.
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Post by weetomsligaments on Apr 24, 2019 21:53:28 GMT
Seriously though why did Jose buy Fred? As a box to box CM that would replace Pogba once he is sold.
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