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Post by ratbag on May 10, 2019 14:53:19 GMT
Also Beckham now officially has a stake in Salford, which may complicate things. Woodward has a stake in Liverpool but he's allowed to ruin the club ... FTFY... |
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Post by Karma on May 10, 2019 16:03:49 GMT
Berbatov has thrown his 🎩 into the ring unfortunately he also thinks we should sign Bale so he can fuck right off.
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Post by jkr on May 10, 2019 17:20:29 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 19:38:03 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford. I'm prepared to bet all of my testicles that Becks has been to plenty of games since he retired. |
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Post by Bestie on May 10, 2019 19:52:12 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford. Well he's watched at least a few as he's been at United and Arsenal games. |
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Post by jkr on May 10, 2019 20:36:12 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford. Well he's watched at least a few as he's been at United and Arsenal games. Boom give him the job then 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 23:23:36 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford. Give me someone who has done the job before and isn't learning on the job. We already have a learning the job manager, learning on the job CEO. Too much gambling |
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2019 1:56:51 GMT
Give me Fletch over Beckham as technical director or DOF for that matter. I'd say Fletch has his nose to the football grindstone more, Becks probably hasn't watched a fuckin match since he retired to be a full time celeb. Beckham would be better as an ambassador and if turning on the charm for a new potential signing maybe bump into him in the corridors of Old Trafford. Give me someone who has done the job before and isn't learning on the job. We already have a learning the job manager, learning on the job CEO. Too much gambling Ole isn't a learning on the job manager, he's won more trophies than Poch actually. He's in his dream job, I'm not worried about him at all tbh, actually looking forward to seeing him wield the axe this summer and go after new talent. Huge transfer window for him and the club to be fair, I'll feel a lot better if he has support in the transfer market from the right management structure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 2:06:39 GMT
Give me someone who has done the job before and isn't learning on the job. We already have a learning the job manager, learning on the job CEO. Too much gambling Ole isn't a learning on the job manager, he's won more trophies than Poch actually. He's in his dream job, I'm not worried about him at all tbh, actually looking forward to seeing him wield the axe this summer and go after new talent. Huge transfer window for him and the club to be fair, I'll feel a lot better if he has support in the transfer market from the right management structure. And you think the right management structure behind him is someone who has never done the job before? I want Ole to succeed. But his chances are slim with Woodward and slimmer again with a former player with zero experience in roles above him. The deck will be stacked against him even more. |
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2019 2:47:27 GMT
Ole isn't a learning on the job manager, he's won more trophies than Poch actually. He's in his dream job, I'm not worried about him at all tbh, actually looking forward to seeing him wield the axe this summer and go after new talent. Huge transfer window for him and the club to be fair, I'll feel a lot better if he has support in the transfer market from the right management structure. And you think the right management structure behind him is someone who has never done the job before? I want Ole to succeed. But his chances are slim with Woodward and slimmer again with a former player with zero experience in roles above him. The deck will be stacked against him even more. The modern set up on technical director side is for several roles, City have 3 apparently. I have no quams about Fletch being one of them, and among the other 2 have an experienced guy by all means. What I want to avoid though is adopting some other clubs culture, that's why ex United in some of these roles is crucial. Its not mentioned much now but when we gave LVG the manager job he was given free reign to hire, fire and revamp the youth teams. He was poor on all fronts and it was a mistake to entrust him with that imo. His methods were outdated and he wasn't from the Cruyff / Michels school of Ajax either, he was the pragmatic version. Later came to light that his great Ajax team of the mid 90's succeeded by ignoring his tactics lol. Long winded way of saying that United club culture has to be a consideration in recruiting these roles. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 2:55:56 GMT
And you think the right management structure behind him is someone who has never done the job before? I want Ole to succeed. But his chances are slim with Woodward and slimmer again with a former player with zero experience in roles above him. The deck will be stacked against him even more. The modern set up on technical director side is for several roles, City have 3 apparently. I have no quams about Fletch being one of them, and among the other 2 have an experienced guy by all means. What I want to avoid though is adopting some other clubs culture, that's why ex United in some of these roles is crucial. Its not mentioned much now but when we gave LVG the manager job he was given free reign to hire, fire and revamp the youth teams. He was poor on all fronts and it was a mistake to entrust him with that imo. His methods were outdated and he wasn't from the Cruyff / Michels school of Ajax either, he was the pragmatic version. Later came to light that his great Ajax team of the mid 90's succeeded by ignoring his tactics lol. Long winded way of saying that United club culture has to be a consideration in recruiting these roles. I am all for having United men amongst the staff. But our first port of call shouldnt be hire Darren Fletcher. It should be decide what we want structure wise and get the best man for the job. Then pad out the rest of the staff with former players or what not. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on May 11, 2019 6:23:26 GMT
The modern set up on technical director side is for several roles, City have 3 apparently. I have no quams about Fletch being one of them, and among the other 2 have an experienced guy by all means. What I want to avoid though is adopting some other clubs culture, that's why ex United in some of these roles is crucial. Its not mentioned much now but when we gave LVG the manager job he was given free reign to hire, fire and revamp the youth teams. He was poor on all fronts and it was a mistake to entrust him with that imo. His methods were outdated and he wasn't from the Cruyff / Michels school of Ajax either, he was the pragmatic version. Later came to light that his great Ajax team of the mid 90's succeeded by ignoring his tactics lol. Long winded way of saying that United club culture has to be a consideration in recruiting these roles. I am all for having United men amongst the staff. But our first port of call shouldnt be hire Darren Fletcher. It should be decide what we want structure wise and get the best man for the job. Then pad out the rest of the staff with former players or what not. The club have decided what they want structure wise - Woody wants to cede as little power as possible whilst also be seen to be doing something to fix the problem. Pretty much everyone the club has approached has turned them down because its essentially a DoF-lite job. |
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Post by Stew on May 11, 2019 7:37:56 GMT
I am all for having United men amongst the staff. But our first port of call shouldnt be hire Darren Fletcher. It should be decide what we want structure wise and get the best man for the job. Then pad out the rest of the staff with former players or what not. The club have decided what they want structure wise - Woody wants to cede as little power as possible whilst also be seen to be doing something to fix the problem. Pretty much everyone the club has approached has turned them down because its essentially a DoF-lite job. Which is exactly what we feared. |
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Post by redcase on May 11, 2019 8:18:49 GMT
I am all for having United men amongst the staff. But our first port of call shouldnt be hire Darren Fletcher. It should be decide what we want structure wise and get the best man for the job. Then pad out the rest of the staff with former players or what not. The club have decided what they want structure wise - Woody wants to cede as little power as possible whilst also be seen to be doing something to fix the problem. Pretty much everyone the club has approached has turned them down because its essentially a DoF-lite job. Wonderful. Imagine asking an actual Director of Football to play second fiddle to a number-cruncher. |
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Post by Bestie on May 11, 2019 10:21:06 GMT
The club have decided what they want structure wise - Woody wants to cede as little power as possible whilst also be seen to be doing something to fix the problem. Pretty much everyone the club has approached has turned them down because its essentially a DoF-lite job. Wonderful. Imagine asking an actual Director of Football to play second fiddle to a number-cruncher. Don't have to imagine. |
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