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Post by Rustin Cohle on Aug 24, 2019 18:41:34 GMT
Fred needs to be given a chance. We paid 50 million plus for him so might as well see what we have in him. I won’t blame Ole at this point but if the string of results continue than the finger is slowing going to be pointed at him. Agree on Fred. Ole’s making mistakes, no doubt about it, but the whole fist has to be pointed at the Glazers. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:42:25 GMT
Inconsistency will be a common theme of the season. I think we'll have plenty more Chelsea results but certainly more performances like today as well.
Not trying to pretend that today hasn't bothered me but I'm not going to change my prediction for the season off the back of this result. Goes without saying we have to bounce back next week against Southampton.
Lingard should absolutely be dropped. Pereira was solid in that opening game of the season IMO. Offered the energy that Lingard does but also had that moment of quality on the ball with his assist. He also simply has to get Fred more involved, even if he's just an option on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:49:43 GMT
Fred needs to be given a chance. We paid 50 million plus for him so might as well see what we have in him. I won’t blame Ole at this point but if the string of results continue than the finger is slowing going to be pointed at him. Agree on Fred. Ole’s making mistakes, no doubt about it, but the whole fist has to be pointed at the Glazers. While I agree, they don't pick the team, choose the formation/tactics and don't make the substitutions. We weren't backed in the summer for a midfielder which sucks but we have to deal with it for the time being, the squad we have should be performing better than it is. He's not learning from his mistakes at the moment and its worrying. Some are simple mistakes aswell. I'd rather use play Rojo on the left than see Young there. Lingard is getting away with countless piss poor performances. Pogba is getting away with everything, he's just going through the paces and not putting any effort in at all. The difference is we haven't really got a replacement for Pogba so he knows he's safe no matter what. But we have plenty of better options for Lingard and we're not using them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:51:15 GMT
Fred needs to be given a chance. We paid 50 million plus for him so might as well see what we have in him. I won’t blame Ole at this point but if the string of results continue than the finger is slowing going to be pointed at him. I guess Ole gets to see this in training. Probably why he is being left out of the squad. |
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Post by Bestie on Aug 24, 2019 19:01:10 GMT
Fred needs to be given a chance. We paid 50 million plus for him so might as well see what we have in him. I won’t blame Ole at this point but if the string of results continue than the finger is slowing going to be pointed at him. I guess Ole gets to see this in training. Probably why he is being left out of the squad. Does he see Lingard in matches? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:05:58 GMT
I guess Ole gets to see this in training. Probably why he is being left out of the squad. Does he see Lingard in matches? Yes, and today he saw he was just as average as the rest of them. Perhaps he tired a bit, which is why he got substituted. |
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Post by Stew on Aug 24, 2019 19:12:27 GMT
Does he see Lingard in matches? Yes, and today he saw he was just as average as the rest of them. Perhaps he tired a bit, which is why he got substituted. Or a bit shite. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:13:03 GMT
Yes, and today he saw he was just as average as the rest of them. Perhaps he tired a bit, which is why he got substituted. Or a bit shite. Altered. |
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Post by Bestie on Aug 24, 2019 19:15:18 GMT
Does he see Lingard in matches? Yes, and today he saw he was just as average as the rest of them. Perhaps he tired a bit, which is why he got substituted. I take it this is some sort of attempted joke, or sarcasm. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:18:21 GMT
No sarcastic italics, poor effort if that is true. Will excuse it and put it down to grief from today's shortcomings.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Aug 24, 2019 19:20:48 GMT
Agree on Fred. Ole’s making mistakes, no doubt about it, but the whole fist has to be pointed at the Glazers. While I agree, they don't pick the team, choose the formation/tactics and don't make the substitutions. We weren't backed in the summer for a midfielder which sucks but we have to deal with it for the time being, the squad we have should be performing better than it is. He's not learning from his mistakes at the moment and its worrying. Some are simple mistakes aswell. I'd rather use play Rojo on the left than see Young there. Lingard is getting away with countless piss poor performances. Pogba is getting away with everything, he's just going through the paces and not putting any effort in at all. The difference is we haven't really got a replacement for Pogba so he knows he's safe no matter what. But we have plenty of better options for Lingard and we're not using them. I genuinely consider the tactics almost irrelevant, because he has no other choice after Woodward decided midfield is a myth. He can give Fred a chance, but otherwise, what other option does he have? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:27:50 GMT
While I agree, they don't pick the team, choose the formation/tactics and don't make the substitutions. We weren't backed in the summer for a midfielder which sucks but we have to deal with it for the time being, the squad we have should be performing better than it is. He's not learning from his mistakes at the moment and its worrying. Some are simple mistakes aswell. I'd rather use play Rojo on the left than see Young there. Lingard is getting away with countless piss poor performances. Pogba is getting away with everything, he's just going through the paces and not putting any effort in at all. The difference is we haven't really got a replacement for Pogba so he knows he's safe no matter what. But we have plenty of better options for Lingard and we're not using them. I genuinely consider the tactics almost irrelevant, because he has no other choice after Woodward decided midfield is a myth. He can give Fred a chance, but otherwise, what other option does he have? Anything but Lingard. Because we have so little to choose from in the middle I feel tactics and formation is even more important. There needs to be some sort of structure within this team and there's nothing. Its as though they're being told to go out and just have fun. |
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Post by smithy2 on Aug 24, 2019 19:33:17 GMT
Isn’t there a stat out there that Adam Johnson has more assists in the past 5 years than lingard? 3 of those years he was in prison
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:40:53 GMT
Isn’t there a stat out there that Adam Johnson has more assists in the past 5 years than lingard? 3 of those years he was in prison Sadly yes. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 24, 2019 19:42:37 GMT
I'd get fred in alongside McT, push Pogba up and drop Lingard. Done. Crying out for creativity, plus on the many occasions Pogba dilly dallys and loses possession, he will have cover.
But Ole, like the managers before him, has a hard on for Lingard.
Man, we have an atrocious midfield. Jeez. Just saying their names makes you shake your head in disgust and ask why. You could replace each one and wouldnt even be sad.
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