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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:34:41 GMT
Must admit I've not seen any abuse directed at him from people on here. Been a fair deal of criticism, some fair, some not so much but think we can all agree where the real problem lies. 4th time this has happened now so its not a coincidence. Whether he succeeds or doesn't here it won't change my opinion of him, he'll always be a legend of the club. Definitely been plenty of disrespect. It's uncalled for. We know it's going to get worse too because these cunts will let it get a hell of a lot worse before they do get rid of him. Not saying there hasn't been, just that I've not seen any. Unfortunately it looks that way, can see it getting worse (if that's possible) before it improves, which ain't don't see happening anytime soon.
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Post by gdmm on Dec 1, 2019 19:39:18 GMT
In the last two games Pereira has given the ball away 50 times. He's no Fernandes.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 1, 2019 19:40:16 GMT
The problem with Ole is that he has started blatantly covering for Ed and the owners. That's why lines have blurred.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:42:37 GMT
Definitely been plenty of disrespect. It's uncalled for. We know it's going to get worse too because these cunts will let it get a hell of a lot worse before they do get rid of him. Not saying there hasn't been, just that I've not seen any. Unfortunately it looks that way, can see it getting worse (if that's possible) before it improves, which ain't don't see happening anytime soon. It won't get better because these players aren't good enough. All over the park they're terrible. Defence is still poor, Lindelof is a shadow of the defender he looked to be becoming last season and Maguire hasn't been good enough, need to stop sticking my head in the sand regarding that. He hasn't been a £30million defender so far, let alone an £80million defender. Wan Bissaka is still rock solid defensively but has to work on his forward play, though he's got time on his hands. I say this about the defence despite knowing that the protection they get from midfield is piss poor but you can't blame the midfield for poor decision making at the back.
Enough has been said about the midfield, it's woeful and why I don't think we'd finish much better than 6th/7th even with a new manager.
The attack is what it is, young, talented but as is typical with young players, inconsistent. Rashford had a poor day again. Martial once again lazy as fuck, as good as his finishing is, he's showing such poor movement and never looks like getting on the end of anything into the box. I still like James, it's not his fault he's had to come straight in from the Championship to being an attacking starter for a former footballing superpower, think he's been good for the most part.
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Post by redcase on Dec 1, 2019 19:47:01 GMT
Only way to hurt owners is their wallets and bad press. But the fans seem unable or unwilling to do either..
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Post by gdmm on Dec 1, 2019 19:47:59 GMT
Are the Fred truthers still backing him? He's fucking terrible in every which way. So is Pereira. The midfield isn't worthy of the Premier League, even with McTominay in it. Another manager may get better performances but we won't get anywhere near where we want to be unless serious investment is made in this side. This is by far the worst group of players we've had in my life time. This! THIS! We effectively play without a midfield.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:48:45 GMT
Again, I don't have any issues with people having the belief Ole isn't good enough, everything is pointing to that being the case but lets leave the real vitriol to the cunts that employed him and failed to give the best possible chance to succeed. The lines on that have definitely been blurred in recent weeks. It’s gonna get worse starting Wednesday after we get hammered and Jose walks off apologizing to the United fans for roasting them. The media would love it if Jose actually got Ole the sack
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:53:09 GMT
The problem with Ole is that he has started blatantly covering for Ed and the owners. That's why lines have blurred. I don't know what he's expected to do there. We are stuck with the fuckers and I think the only way we get any kind of success under them is by having a manager who can work with them instead of against them like Jose. They're not going anywhere any time soon.
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Post by Bestie on Dec 1, 2019 19:53:52 GMT
The problem with Ole is that he has started blatantly covering for Ed and the owners. That's why lines have blurred. I don't know what he's expected to do there. We are stuck with the fuckers and I think the only way we get any kind of success under them is by having a manager who can work with them instead of against them like Jose. They're not going anywhere any time soon.
Not outright lie about how great the owners have been. That would be a start.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 19:56:57 GMT
I don't know what he's expected to do there. We are stuck with the fuckers and I think the only way we get any kind of success under them is by having a manager who can work with them instead of against them like Jose. They're not going anywhere any time soon.
Not outright lie about how great the owners have been. That would be a start. What does he say then? We saw how bad the atmosphere at the club got when Jose tried to go at them and prove his point.
I honestly don't think you'll find a manager out there who will come in and not say the owners are fine and working well with them to try and improve the squad, etc. They're all going to wheel out the same line.
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Post by RAZ on Dec 1, 2019 20:01:59 GMT
wanted to watch the last 3 games. only turned in for 2nd half against sheffield, last 5mins in europa league and today i forgot it completely. i`m not even forgetting the games on purpose, it just happens. that never happened in almost 3 decades.
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Post by Chris on Dec 1, 2019 20:05:28 GMT
Does he think we are top 2? With this and the constant bollocks about how we are improving, I've had it.
It's coming, right?
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Post by caino on Dec 1, 2019 20:08:27 GMT
Can’t take listening to his dribble anymore.
He will always be a legend but it won’t be for managing us. Bow out while you still have the respect of the fans
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Post by bushy1987 on Dec 1, 2019 20:10:28 GMT
Yep I can't take that shit he's spouting now he's not helping himself at all, times up now bring on the next 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2019 20:12:09 GMT
Can’t take listening to his dribble anymore. He will always be a legend but it won’t be for managing us. Bow out while you still have the respect of the fans Why should he ever lose your respect? Because he got given a job he would never turned down in a million years and was then shat on by the owners? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. He should never lose the respect of fans regardless of how his managerial stint goes here.
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