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Post by RAZ on Mar 3, 2020 13:39:51 GMT
i agree about more league titles but in fairness i cant complain about the amount of them we won under fergie.
champions league titles...thats what still hurts way more
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Post by redcase on Mar 3, 2020 14:58:32 GMT
Champions League reminds me of the semifinal against Arsenal when Fletch got sent off because of that cunt Fabregas' dive. We would have beaten Barcelona with Fletch imo.
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Post by redcase on Mar 3, 2020 15:05:16 GMT
Come to think of it, to be totally fair, we should have been playing Chelsea that night not fucking Barcelona, who were handed that result on a platter by that ref. English clubs probably have been fucked over the most by reffing decisions in the Champions League bar none. No other European club has faced some of the utter nonsense English clubs have...
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Post by Tatty on Mar 3, 2020 16:15:58 GMT
Champions League reminds me of the semifinal against Arsenal when Fletch got sent off because of that cunt Fabregas' dive. We would have beaten Barcelona with Fletch imo. We wouldn't have. It was men vs boys in that final. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 3, 2020 16:17:33 GMT
I've been struggling to get Nani's red card in 2013 out of my mind for years, felt like we were destined to win it that year. Would have been brilliant for Sir Alex too in hindsight.
I recall I was crestfallen at the time as well, so probably just a permanent shitty one if I'm honest!
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 3, 2020 16:18:45 GMT
This thread has been a joy to read, haha
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Post by Bestie on Mar 3, 2020 19:12:00 GMT
Champions League reminds me of the semifinal against Arsenal when Fletch got sent off because of that cunt Fabregas' dive. We would have beaten Barcelona with Fletch imo. We wouldn't have. It was men vs boys in that final. Rome? We should have been a goal up inside 10 minutes. Truly believe we would have seen the job through. We had done the year before. Wembley was a lesson. |
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Post by king nothing on Mar 3, 2020 19:15:02 GMT
I've been struggling to get Nani's red card in 2013 out of my mind for years, felt like we were destined to win it that year. Would have been brilliant for Sir Alex too in hindsight. I recall I was crestfallen at the time as well, so probably just a permanent shitty one if I'm honest! Jose nailed us whilst Fergie was raving about the card. Modric. Another fine player. |
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Post by smithy2 on Mar 3, 2020 22:36:48 GMT
It could actually be argued that we could have achieved a lot more under Fergie. Which is insane. And a testament to what a fucking immense football club we were in those days. God, whose idea was this stupid thread...! smithy2 ! Why are you doing this to us mate !  We’re at least 2 leagues and 1 Champion’s League light of what we should have won. Yeh some really shot losses in Europe. Dortmund, Monaco and Bayern Lev spring to mind. Also i think if we had grabbed the early goal in Rome we would have won. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 3, 2020 22:39:04 GMT
We wouldn't have. It was men vs boys in that final. Rome? We should have been a goal up inside 10 minutes. Truly believe we would have seen the job through. We had done the year before. Wembley was a lesson. Our midfield in Rome should have been Hargreaves, Carrick and Fletcher. That would have been able to live with Barca’s midfield. If we’d gotten a foothold then our forwards would have hurt their defense. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 4, 2020 5:25:18 GMT
Rome? We should have been a goal up inside 10 minutes. Truly believe we would have seen the job through. We had done the year before. Wembley was a lesson. Our midfield in Rome should have been Hargreaves, Carrick and Fletcher. That would have been able to live with Barca’s midfield. If we’d gotten a foothold then our forwards would have hurt their defense. Yup, agreed. We started with Anderson, Carrick and Giggs. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 4, 2020 5:27:08 GMT
Champions League reminds me of the semifinal against Arsenal when Fletch got sent off because of that cunt Fabregas' dive. We would have beaten Barcelona with Fletch imo. We wouldn't have. It was men vs boys in that final. Rome? I think we would have done a lot better than we did tbh. Fletcher was great at nullifying opposition midfielders. I think he may have been able to do the same to either Xavi or Iniesta.. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 4, 2020 11:18:52 GMT
We wouldn't have. It was men vs boys in that final. Rome? I think we would have done a lot better than we did tbh. Fletcher was great at nullifying opposition midfielders. I think he may have been able to do the same to either Xavi or Iniesta.. Doubt it though. Had we got the first goal then yes we could have won the game because Chelsea done a number on them before the referee had intervened but Xavi and Iniesta are probably two of the best central midfield players in the history of Spanish football. They have made mugs out of better players than Fletcher. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 4, 2020 11:44:52 GMT
Rome? I think we would have done a lot better than we did tbh. Fletcher was great at nullifying opposition midfielders. I think he may have been able to do the same to either Xavi or Iniesta.. Doubt it though. Had we got the first goal then yes we could have won the game because Chelsea done a number on them before the referee had intervened but Xavi and Iniesta are probably two of the best central midfield players in the history of Spanish football. They have made mugs out of better players than Fletcher. Weren't they both playing when we beat them the year before? |
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 4, 2020 21:01:49 GMT
Doubt it though. Had we got the first goal then yes we could have won the game because Chelsea done a number on them before the referee had intervened but Xavi and Iniesta are probably two of the best central midfield players in the history of Spanish football. They have made mugs out of better players than Fletcher. Weren't they both playing when we beat them the year before? True but what a difference a year makes. With Fletcher in the team we would have had more physicality but once they got in front, you could of had 3 Fletchers and not get near them. Fergies big mistake was not playing Scholes, it was a lack of quality in midfield that cost us. |
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