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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 0:24:42 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager.
The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now.
As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 0:26:55 GMT
As far as today goes. I’m perplexed at the level of anger being directed at him. We battered them. He can’t be held responsible for inept defending and an unbelievably sparse night in front of goal.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Aug 17, 2020 1:11:26 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now. As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down. You could even make the argument that given the slightest bit of actual quality, Ole can get the most out of it. But then again, don’t whisper that too loudly bc you know... |
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Post by aussiegraham on Aug 17, 2020 3:11:13 GMT
Should of, would of, could of, but we didn't. That's football. Didn't we once a season or so ago record a record number of shots on target in the PL and yet not win? (v. Burnley, I think).
The comment was made that our result today versus a well-drilled and Euro-savvy Spanish team (often the bogey nation against us English) would be a good indicator of where we are at. We got our answer, we've still got a long way to go.
Ole will remain in charge, like it or lump it. The bench is the poorest it's ever been, that I can remember, so unless severe changes are made, next season will be much the same, with the added worry of potentially being shown up and embarrassed by someone in the CL.
I'll be watching the transfer thread closely (but with little hope that it will be a positive experience!)
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Post by safariRed on Aug 17, 2020 3:26:38 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now. As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down. Could Ole win the league if he managed Liverpool? |
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Post by redcase on Aug 17, 2020 3:54:02 GMT
Beaten at the near post ? The ball was fired across the box. He moved from one side to the other. If it’s anyone’s fault it’s not DDGs ffs Jesus christ it was savable, he's not as good as he was, he's not the only one at fault the back 4 failed but he fucked up. Fucking christ it's not your near post if you have to move 3 yards to get to it. |
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Post by juanveron on Aug 17, 2020 5:23:25 GMT
Honestly? Ole is the first manager post Fergie that I’m really torn about whether or not he should have another season. He did finish 3rd, regardless of what 66 points would’ve been worth in past years and it’s hard to judge him with such an incredibly weak squad, but at the same time I am almost 100% certain he is just not good enough of a manager to reach the top levels, so why waste another opportunity to close the gap on City and Liverpool?
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Post by Karma on Aug 17, 2020 5:27:36 GMT
Ole hasn't been sacked yet because of the failures of other clubs, not the success of his own. 66 points shouldn't get you top 4. It didn't last season, and certainly wouldn't have again had Chelsea and Spurs, and to a lesser degree Arsenal, had had the seasons we expected from them. They do their jobs and we're 6th and trophyless again. And Ole is out of a job. Keeping your job because of other peoples inadequacies is not a good thing. He’s here by default. Not unlike the owners. |
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Post by Stretty on Aug 17, 2020 5:35:15 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now.
As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down.this is where I am tbh. i don’t think we’re ever going to be a top side under him but if he can lay the foundations for the club to go forward the so be it. but as long as the glazers are still here it’s not going to make much difference anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2020 5:46:38 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now. As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down. Could Ole win the league if he managed Liverpool? Could Klopp win the league with this United squad? |
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Post by Karma on Aug 17, 2020 5:46:49 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now.
As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down.this is where I am tbh. i don’t think we’re ever going to be a top side under him but if he can lay the foundations for the club to go forward the so be it. but as long as the glazers are still here it’s not going to make much difference anyway. A good manager would be doing better. So the question is, why aren’t we doing it ? |
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Post by redcase on Aug 17, 2020 5:50:22 GMT
Except that's literally what Sevilla did. Brought a shite sub on, someone who has had pretty much no impact on their season at all, in the hope he could do something. And he scored the winner. It's not Ole's fault that he went out and brought in Ighalo, and then extended his loan, but also thinks he's so shit that he doesn't dare give him more than a last second desperate couple of minutes in a semi final we're losing. Suppose that's not Ole's fault though. Because reasons. Luuk De Jong has literally more league goals than our entire bench combined bar McTominay. We don’t have anyone the caliber of ‘0 goals for Newcastle’ De Jong on our bench, and seeing as you ignored the rest of the post, I’m assuming you wouldn’t have brought him on to get us a goal despite him being our top scorer off the bench. And no, that’s not Ole’s fault. And just so we’re clear, the master plan should’ve been Igalho to the rescue but Ole the idiot didn’t recognize it, yeah? How about you answer his question? If Ighalo is not here to play for us and make an impact why has his loan been extended? Why the fuck are we paying his wages? Luuk de jong has more goals but he also has 3 times Ighalo's appearances as well, no? Are we forgetting Ighalo's hold up play in the final minutes was a major reason we beat City at OT? He had been on for I think 10 minutes or so at that point. Given time, players can do something. Also, we were fucking losing anyway what more else could happen by subbing those players on??! But no let's keep tired shite players on the pitch instead, because that always works. Torres scored a goal against Barcelona in the Champions League for Di Matteo to put them away. Torres was fucking shite that season if you remember, should he not have been subbed on? This entire argument that the bench is not good enough so no point bringing them on is utter tripe. History is littered with minor role players saving teams from oblivion or taking teams to the promised land. Point is, if you don't fucking try, you'll never fucking know. |
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Post by redcase on Aug 17, 2020 5:53:57 GMT
The progress from Ole has come in the 2nd half of the season. Play like we have in 2020 for the whole season and we’d have smashed that 66 point tally. Yes Bruno has been a huge help but that’s not something Ole should apologise for, the side was crying out for creative quality, we get it and results improve dramatically. Can’t cry about the squad being shit and then use an impactful new signing as a stick to beat the manager. The end of the season has been disappointing but everyone all but agreed that we’re a side running on empty for a few weeks now. As far as I’m concerned, Ole has earned another crack at it next season but he’ll get absolutely nowhere without backing from the board. Which is the saddest part of all as we all know he’ll be let down. He's earned another shot in my opinion too. But he also deserves to be questioned with regards to his decisions. He has not earned that kind of impunity imo where fans are not in a position to criticize him. |
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Post by redcase on Aug 17, 2020 5:55:54 GMT
Could Ole win the league if he managed Liverpool? Could Klopp win the league with this United squad? He'd have beaten Sevilla. Klopp's credentials are unquestioned. He won the league in Germany by building a team from scratch with his imprint. And he's a scouse bastard. Ole would not do well with that scouse team, primarily because he isnt tactically good enough to make the most out of them. |
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Post by Karma on Aug 17, 2020 5:57:53 GMT
Hopefully if there’s one thing to come out of this , it’s that the dumb fucks don’t extend his contract.
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