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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 15, 2021 19:34:04 GMT
Not saying Rashford had the same level of talent Ronaldo had, but if you’re saying Rashford now doesn’t have 50% of the ability Ronaldo had when he signed, you’re wrong. Rashford is a better player right now than Ronaldo was when we bought him. Not aware of any attitude problem Ronaldo had either. Don’t get me wrong, I still don’t agree with the comparison between the two. I think Ronaldo by Rashford’s age had already kicked on and become tremendous. Worth noting though that Ronaldo was not a natural finisher either, but he’d picked it up by the age Rashford’s at. But again, we shouldn’t be comparing anyone to Ronnie really. I agree with the natural finisher thing to a degree. There is an instinct that you either have or you don’t. But it’s wrong also to say that this area can’t be improved with coaching. There are countless examples of players becoming deadly as they progress throughout their careers. Van Persie wasn’t a deadly finisher his whole career. Granted he had injuries, but until his last 18 months at Arsenal, you wouldn’t have thought “that’s the clinical finisher that’s going to fire us to a Premier League title”. I can remember many people saying Wayne Rooney wasn’t a natural goal scorer. He used to get pegged with “a scorer of great goals rather than a great goal scorer”. But he still ended up scoring plenty. It was an aspect of his game he worked really hard on. Whether or not Rashford will be able to improve this area of his game, I don’t know. But he doesn’t need to suddenly morph into Ruud to succeed here. To be honest, if he spent some time learning to head a fucking ball he’d get 5 more goals a season minimum.  . When that guy said if Rashford works very hard in training he could get close to Ronaldo, that's when I made my previous post. It's blood ridiculous of an expectation to have of the boy. He's a super lad, diligent and wears the shirt with pride and is probably among the top 10 players in the league but he isn't on the level of Ruud/Ronaldo, who the original poster compared him to.
Players develop in different ways , there are many players nobody even heard of when they were 18 but now in the world class category Bruno , Salah ,Kevin De bryne off the top of my head. So Rashford not setting the world alight at 18 doesn't really matter. Also I didn't say if Rashford worked hard he will be as good as Ronaldo , i said if he worked hard enough he can definitely improve on his finishing. He doesn't have to be another Ronaldo or Ruud or Messi , slightly better than what he is now and it can be significant over a long season. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Mar 15, 2021 19:57:09 GMT
I don't think I'm wrong. When Ronaldo was 18 he single handedly murdered us when we went over to Lisbon. The entire United team told Sir Alex he simply had to buy him, end of. Has Rashford ever had that sort of allure? Even when he burst on the scene was he someone you'd look at and say "Holy shit, this guy could set the world alight." Ravel had that. Wayne had that. Ronaldo had bundles of that. Rashford never had that, he still doesn't and he probably never will. He's 23 now. Ronaldo won the Ballon D'Or at 23. Is Rashford even among the top 50 players in world football? It's up for debate yet not certain. That's what I said mate. . When that guy said if Rashford works very hard in training he could get close to Ronaldo, that's when I made my previous post. It's blood ridiculous of an expectation to have of the boy. He's a super lad, diligent and wears the shirt with pride and is probably among the top 10 players in the league but he isn't on the level of Ruud/Ronaldo, who the original poster compared him to.
Players develop in different ways , there are many players nobody even heard of when they were 18 but now in the world class category Bruno , Salah ,Kevin De bryne off the top of my head. So Rashford not setting the world alight at 18 doesn't really matter. Also I didn't say if Rashford worked hard he will be as good as Ronaldo , i said if he worked hard enough he can definitely improve on his finishing. He doesn't have to be another Ronaldo or Ruud or Messi , slightly better than what he is now and it can be significant over a long season. Everybody who played football manager had heard of kdb |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 15, 2021 21:47:36 GMT
Who hadn't heard of Kevin de Bruyne when he was 18?
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Post by Monty on Mar 15, 2021 23:32:55 GMT
I don't think I'm wrong. When Ronaldo was 18 he single handedly murdered us when we went over to Lisbon. The entire United team told Sir Alex he simply had to buy him, end of. Has Rashford ever had that sort of allure? Even when he burst on the scene was he someone you'd look at and say "Holy shit, this guy could set the world alight." Ravel had that. Wayne had that. Ronaldo had bundles of that. Rashford never had that, he still doesn't and he probably never will. He's 23 now. Ronaldo won the Ballon D'Or at 23. Is Rashford even among the top 50 players in world football? It's up for debate yet not certain. That's what I said mate. . When that guy said if Rashford works very hard in training he could get close to Ronaldo, that's when I made my previous post. It's blood ridiculous of an expectation to have of the boy. He's a super lad, diligent and wears the shirt with pride and is probably among the top 10 players in the league but he isn't on the level of Ruud/Ronaldo, who the original poster compared him to.
Players develop in different ways , there are many players nobody even heard of when they were 18 but now in the world class category Bruno , Salah ,Kevin De bryne off the top of my head. So Rashford not setting the world alight at 18 doesn't really matter. Also I didn't say if Rashford worked hard he will be as good as Ronaldo , i said if he worked hard enough he can definitely improve on his finishing. He doesn't have to be another Ronaldo or Ruud or Messi , slightly better than what he is now and it can be significant over a long season. Neither Salah or De Bruyne are good examples. Both were highly touted before signing for Chelsea. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Mar 16, 2021 5:34:52 GMT
Who hadn't heard of Kevin de Bruyne when he was 18? Lets be honest, how many here said KDB (at 18 , not when he was at wolfsburg) are going to be world class players. We HAVE to sign them up now or its going to be a big big miss. Am guessing not many. Same with Bruno and Salah. Point is they were talented but really took the next step when they were older at 24 or 25 , they didnt set the world on fire as 18 year olds |
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Post by Tatty on Mar 16, 2021 10:50:01 GMT
Who hadn't heard of Kevin de Bruyne when he was 18? Am guessing not many. Same with Bruno and Salah. Point is they were talented but really took the next step when they were older at 24 or 25 , they didnt set the world on fire as 18 year olds Me. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 16, 2021 12:28:53 GMT
Lets be honest, how many here said KDB (at 18 , not when he was at wolfsburg) are going to be world class players. We HAVE to sign them up now or its going to be a big big miss. Am guessing not many. Same with Bruno and Salah. Point is they were talented but really took the next step when they were older at 24 or 25 , they didnt set the world on fire as 18 year olds Me. And me. I actively remember both of us wanting to sign him from Chelsea for example. |
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Post by viking22 on Mar 16, 2021 12:42:45 GMT
Certain clubs do seem to have a certain knack for developing promising youngsters into world class players. And we used to be one of them.
Obviously a big part of it was Fergie. He set standards very high so that youngsters never felt they had arrived and challenged them to become the best they can be.
Our coaching setup was also a lot better with people like Meulensteen and Quieroz. I don't think we have anyone technically amazing in our coaching staff.
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Post by Stew on Mar 16, 2021 13:00:29 GMT
We need our best person for the Milan game. Who wants to start it?
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Post by king nothing on Mar 16, 2021 13:20:43 GMT
We need our best person for the Milan game. Who wants to start it? I'm unbeaten in 6 but the last two were shitfest draws! Tatty up... |
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