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Post by Kojak on Oct 2, 2021 17:44:03 GMT
Surely we're not going to waste Ronaldo with this fraud? The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy.
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Post by juanveron on Oct 2, 2021 17:48:52 GMT
He is not a fraud, just not good enough to manage us.
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Post by weebay on Oct 2, 2021 17:55:18 GMT
He has done his best. It’s not on him to sack himself. Please let it happen soon so this season isn’t wasted.
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Post by Paul on Oct 2, 2021 18:00:44 GMT
Surely we're not going to waste Ronaldo with this fraud? The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. Don't agree with most of the abuse he's had to be honest, whether he's the right guy for the club or not. Criticise him by all means but the abuse is totally uncalled for. If any abuse should be thrown it's at the people that either hired him or offered him contracts.
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Post by weebay on Oct 2, 2021 18:01:47 GMT
The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. Don't agree with most of the abuse he's had to be honest, whether he's the right guy for the club or not. Criticise him by all means but the abuse is totally uncalled for. If any abuse should be thrown it's at the people that either hired him or offered him contracts. 100% agree
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Post by safariRed on Oct 2, 2021 18:08:35 GMT
Surely we're not going to waste Ronaldo with this fraud? The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. Calling himself a manager makes him a fraud cause he's not. Edit: just so we're clear I'm not going argue about my opinion on Ole. It's not going to change.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Oct 2, 2021 18:16:45 GMT
Think we all agree ole has done well to steady the ship after jose and bring some harmony to the squad etc. But he has taken us as far as he can, its now time for the board to realise this and put plans in place to replace him and his back room staff....(they won't by the way) but I won't be calling him names, hes a ledge and won us the champs league and I'll always be grateful to him for that
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Post by Kojak on Oct 2, 2021 18:21:27 GMT
The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. Calling himself a manager makes him a fraud cause he's not. Edit: just so we're clear I'm not going argue about my opinion on Ole. It's not going to change. Don’t care what your opinion on Ole is, it’s probably the same as everyone else’s, that he’s not good enough. He is, factually, a manager though.
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Post by Kojak on Oct 2, 2021 18:24:19 GMT
The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. Don't agree with most of the abuse he's had to be honest, whether he's the right guy for the club or not. Criticise him by all means but the abuse is totally uncalled for. If any abuse should be thrown it's at the people that either hired him or offered him contracts. I think it’s a shame the abuse he gets, but whatever, I get it as well because he makes infuriating decisions. I personally won’t abuse him because to me what he’s done for us over his career outweighs the bad. He’s obviously not a top level manager though. My worry with the club has always been that we don’t have the people upstairs to make the right decision for the next appointment anyway. I feel like we’d just appoint the wrong man regardless.
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Post by oscared on Oct 2, 2021 18:33:46 GMT
Ole probably can’t believe his luck he didn’t give himself a contract extension till 2024, blame the idiots that gave it to him.
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Post by safariRed on Oct 2, 2021 18:40:46 GMT
Do people actually remember the kind of squads we had when we won the FA cup & Europa League? And you want to call Ole a manager? ?
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Post by Bestie on Oct 2, 2021 19:49:41 GMT
I absolutely HATE to say this, but I’d even take FSW at this point! He’s far more tactically astute. That's a hard no from me Bob.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 2, 2021 21:15:07 GMT
Surely we're not going to waste Ronaldo with this fraud? The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. He's in a job he patently does not deserve on merit or ability. That's the fraud.
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Post by Kojak on Oct 2, 2021 21:45:12 GMT
The use of the word “fraud” in a footballing context absolutely infuriates me. There’s not a single player/manager going who that hasn’t been aimed at. Same as calling someone a “*blank* merchant”. Ole’s obviously not good enough to manage Manchester United, but in what sense is he a fraud? They were calling Pep a “bald fraud” after his first season in England. At least if Pep was shit (he isn’t) the fraud thing would make sense as he’s been touted as being a genius for years. Nobody has ever bigged Ole up and he’s not going round shouting his mouth off about his own ability, so I don’t see how he’s a fraud. Just doesn’t make sense. Lazy. He's in a job he patently does not deserve on merit or ability. That's the fraud. You’ve not been mis-sold on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer though have you? If anything you’ve gotten what you expected.
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Post by Paul on Oct 3, 2021 6:02:14 GMT
He's in a job he patently does not deserve on merit or ability. That's the fraud. You’ve not been mis-sold on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer though have you? If anything you’ve gotten what you expected. I desperately want this guy to succeed here (fed up of replacing managers and would love to see him prove people wrong) and I've defended him when a lot of others have done the opposite. But lately even I can't say anything to defend him, he's digging his own hole. I'd love to see him turn this around but that's never going to happen when he's still making the same obvious mistakes week in week out. We might not have been mis-sold on him at the start but by now I do expect much better at a club of this level.
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