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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2021 13:53:22 GMT
I bet he does. Easiest gig in world football for a manager willing to accept not winning things as a legitimate target. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 22, 2021 13:54:09 GMT
Ok let's go get Klopp, Pep or Tuchel then. Poch is one of the best coaches available to us. He has to be in the running. The only one that isn't mentioned is Simeone, who is on par with that lot. Pochettino is not in the same bracket as any of those actual winners. Except Poch has won more or less the same as Tuchel did before joining Chelsea. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 22, 2021 13:54:41 GMT
I bet he does. Easiest gig in world football for a manager willing to accept not winning things as a legitimate target. Except he’s actually won things. |
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Post by seanie on Nov 22, 2021 13:56:29 GMT
The CL could be a fascinating audition for a manager this year, if they are going to wait till next year. If Ten Hag gets that Ajax team to a final or wins it he could literally name his terms. The way young Jose did at Chelsea after winning it with Porto.
I don't mean it's necessary, because he has already done a great job, but even our board couldn't ignore it.
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Post by kstandhand on Nov 22, 2021 13:59:47 GMT
If we feel we need to appoint an interim manager,then the dopey DOF & his DNA sidekick have not been doing their jobs either & should both follow OGS out the fucking door.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2021 14:02:14 GMT
Pochettino is not in the same bracket as any of those actual winners. Except Poch has won more or less the same as Tuchel did before joining Chelsea. Tuchel completed a domestic quadruple with PSG, plus another League and a few other cups. Not quite the same. |
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Post by redcase on Nov 22, 2021 14:02:57 GMT
We have no choice. I would much rather we appoint a manager now, even if it's Pocchettino, rather than wait till the summer.
This executive management team we have can't be trusted. If Carrick goes on a decent run I can bet my house they'd give him a 3 year contract. He's not much different from Ole - would never toe the line, would make do, would just be so happy he has a job, trying his best etc.
I shudder at the thought we'll be stuck in the same loop for the next 3 years.
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2021 14:04:32 GMT
I bet he does. Easiest gig in world football for a manager willing to accept not winning things as a legitimate target. Except he’s actually won things. Two things. A Cup and a domestic Super Cup. At a club expected to win everything every season. He showed at Spurs willingness to toe the line about not winning being acceptable. |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2021 14:05:44 GMT
We have no choice. I would much rather we appoint a manager now, even if it's Pocchettino, rather than wait till the summer. This executive management team we have can't be trusted. If Carrick goes on a decent run I can bet my house they'd give him a 3 year contract. He's not much different from Ole - would never toe the line, would make do, would just be so happy he has a job, trying his best etc. I shudder at the thought we'll be stuck in the same loop for the next 3 years. I would prefer to wait and get it right. Be that ten Hag, Enrique, Mancini, or Rodgers. |
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Post by redcase on Nov 22, 2021 14:08:20 GMT
We have no choice. I would much rather we appoint a manager now, even if it's Pocchettino, rather than wait till the summer. This executive management team we have can't be trusted. If Carrick goes on a decent run I can bet my house they'd give him a 3 year contract. He's not much different from Ole - would never toe the line, would make do, would just be so happy he has a job, trying his best etc. I shudder at the thought we'll be stuck in the same loop for the next 3 years. I would prefer to wait and get it right. Be that ten Hag, Enrique, Mancini, or Rodgers. Enrique and Mancini are not coming until the World Cup is over. Ten Hag, I'd love him. He's not coming this year. Our board can't be trusted to bring him in next year. Rodgers - OK, I don't particularly have anything against him, but will he leave this year? More importantly - what has he won? |
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Post by ratbag on Nov 22, 2021 14:10:31 GMT
We have no choice. I would much rather we appoint a manager now, even if it's Pocchettino, rather than wait till the summer. This executive management team we have can't be trusted. If Carrick goes on a decent run I can bet my house they'd give him a 3 year contract. He's not much different from Ole - would never toe the line, would make do, would just be so happy he has a job, trying his best etc. I shudder at the thought we'll be stuck in the same loop for the next 3 years. I would prefer to wait and get it right. Be that ten Hag, Enrique, Mancini, or Rodgers. I take it then that you would prefer Rodgers over Pochettino... I am trying to find a significant difference... I am sure you have that thought in your head and I'd be happy to hear what you think... For me, ten Hag all day long with Rangnick as interim to then become DoF...never going to happen but that's my ideal scenario... |
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Post by seanie on Nov 22, 2021 14:10:40 GMT
Except Poch has won more or less the same as Tuchel did before joining Chelsea. Tuchel completed a domestic quadruple with PSG, plus another League and a few other cups. Not quite the same. He hasn't had a full season yet has he? He might win a treble this year for all we know at this stage. It's hard to judge him just on winning at this stage in fairness. Spurs are a total pretender club with a nightmare CEO and he did a fantastic job there. I loved the football they played and it's been a total shit show since he left. |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 22, 2021 14:11:04 GMT
I would prefer to wait and get it right. Be that ten Hag, Enrique, Mancini, or Rodgers. Enrique and Mancini are not coming until the World Cup is over. Ten Hag, I'd love him. He's not coming this year. Our board can't be trusted to bring him in next year. Rodgers - OK, I don't particularly have anything against him, but will he leave this year? More importantly - what has he won? Everything in Scotland (meeting expectations), the FA Cup and a Charity Shield against city. With Leicester. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 22, 2021 14:18:11 GMT
Except Poch has won more or less the same as Tuchel did before joining Chelsea. Tuchel completed a domestic quadruple with PSG, plus another League and a few other cups. Not quite the same. Poch has already won a French Cup, their charity shield (included in Tuchel’s quadruple by yourself) and has more or less won the league there by Christmas. He also took the super power that is Spurs to a Champions League final. There’s really not much in it. And regardless of whether or not we regard winning things in France as a significant, saying he doesn’t win things is simply false. |
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Post by viking22 on Nov 22, 2021 14:18:45 GMT
A leak from the MEN re Ole's tactics board apparently full of stickers with platitudes such as:
Game management
- simple and efficient
- do the simple things well and with pride
- go and do your magic
PLAY FOR THE TEAM
TAKE PRIDE in being the BEST YOU
If the above is true and it has a definite ring of truth as matches the kind of platitudes OGS came out with in pressers I'd go with any decent candidate willing to join now rather than the summer e.g. Poch, Rodgers and even Zidane if we can twist his arm.
Problem with waiting for the summer is that there do not seem to be any decent interims on the market and we really don't want to be in a situation where our new manager is plying his trade in the Europa League which would make it hard to attract good players in the summer and also mean that quite a few of our existing stars such as Ronaldo would probably hit the exit door.
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