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Post by juanveron on Jan 4, 2022 6:04:32 GMT
Never been more indifferent to United in my life - not sure if it’s good or bad, but the “hold” that the club had on me is over. The only way I could justify to myself watching the team play was if I do some work as the game is playing in the background, to ensure I’m not wasting 2 hours.
From what I did see, it’s absolutely clear, as many of us had suspected, that it doesn’t matter who is our manager - this team is not built of players with a winner’s mentality. Not even Ronaldo and Cavani can change it.
Also, it’s clear that they despise the new manager. Someone who’s expecting them to work hard. This is probably reminding some of them what LVG was like, because the response seems identical.
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Post by redcase on Jan 4, 2022 6:24:35 GMT
So it wasn't a horrible grotesque nightmare and we did actually lose in that manner.
Good fucking morning.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 4, 2022 6:42:33 GMT
Never been more indifferent to United in my life - not sure if it’s good or bad, but the “hold” that the club had on me is over. The only way I could justify to myself watching the team play was if I do some work as the game is playing in the background, to ensure I’m not wasting 2 hours. From what I did see, it’s absolutely clear, as many of us had suspected, that it doesn’t matter who is our manager - this team is not built of players with a winner’s mentality. Not even Ronaldo and Cavani can change it. Also, it’s clear that they despise the new manager. Someone who’s expecting them to work hard. This is probably reminding some of them what LVG was like, because the response seems identical. Agree , leaks from the other day and the complete lack of effort yesterday shows it. Enough of pandering to these wankers , we need to be ruthless and start the cull.
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 4, 2022 6:52:03 GMT
So it wasn't a horrible grotesque nightmare and we did actually lose in that manner. Good fucking morning. What's fucking good about it???
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 4, 2022 8:12:34 GMT
Never been more indifferent to United in my life - not sure if it’s good or bad, but the “hold” that the club had on me is over. The only way I could justify to myself watching the team play was if I do some work as the game is playing in the background, to ensure I’m not wasting 2 hours. From what I did see, it’s absolutely clear, as many of us had suspected, that it doesn’t matter who is our manager - this team is not built of players with a winner’s mentality. Not even Ronaldo and Cavani can change it. Also, it’s clear that they despise the new manager. Someone who’s expecting them to work hard. This is probably reminding some of them what LVG was like, because the response seems identical. Agree , leaks from the other day and the complete lack of effort yesterday shows it. Enough of pandering to these wankers , we need to be ruthless and start the cull. It's the only way things will ever get better. The club will have to accept big losses to offload these players. Some of this lot should have gone a while ago. Pogba Martial Lingard (just sell him already, no one is going to give you 45m for him) Jones Baily (could be a top CB if his body let him) Lindelof Maguire (couldn't mark his own shadow) AWB Mata Matic Fred
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Post by ratbag on Jan 4, 2022 8:51:35 GMT
Agree , leaks from the other day and the complete lack of effort yesterday shows it. Enough of pandering to these wankers , we need to be ruthless and start the cull. It's the only way things will ever get better. The club will have to accept big losses to offload these players. Some of this lot should have gone a while ago. Pogba Martial Lingard (just sell him already, no one is going to give you 45m for him) Jones Baily (could be a top CB if his body let him) Lindelof Maguire (couldn't mark his own shadow) AWB Mata Matic Fred Looking at that list it’s hard to argue (although Jones might get a pass just now)... And that very long list is an indictment of the way the club has been ruined over the years...
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Post by kstandhand on Jan 4, 2022 8:56:20 GMT
Our problem is that RR has come in as an interim manager only,rightly dented a few ego's,told them all that the comfort blanket era is over. The dented ego crew have downed tools & will just sit it out until May/June when the new permanent manager arrives. Due to a lack of any forward planning from the club as per usual, the idiots have made RR's situation untenable. The writing has been on wall for at least 3 games,RR has had to completely abandon his style of football to try & placate /accommodate unhappy players,does not bode well for what is left of the season.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Jan 4, 2022 9:31:34 GMT
Honestly at this point I'd be all for benching the lot of them and bringing the kids in. If the stars won't run, then don't play them.
The main place Rangnick is already losing credibility is by playing the same failing players and not giving others a run. He had two unused players on the bench last night, in VDB and Lingard who will give him the running he wants. Instead of bringing on a fading, uninterested, short on confidence Rashford, he should have brought Lingard on instead. Who, for all you can criticise his end product, you've rarely been able to criticise his effort.
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Post by alwaysUnited on Jan 4, 2022 9:47:35 GMT
I really dont know what is going on with the club anymore , who is in charge now ? Is it Ralf ? Fletcher ? Murtough ? Ed ? Joel glazer ? Who takes the decisions , who has the accountability Do we have plan for next season ? Is anyone doing the work required to get Ten Hag here ? Or will it be someone Ralf recommends ? How do we plan our transfers without knowing the manager ?
First game of Ralf we controlled the game , pressed high , played good football , so why are the same guys playing like this , there are enough players in the dressing room who sets high standards (Ronaldo, Varane, Degea , Cavani,Bruno) but we dont see the result on pitch , there is something deeply rotten , need to be absolutely ruthless to fix it or the shit show will go on.
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Post by redcase on Jan 4, 2022 10:39:34 GMT
If Ralf isn't happy with players he should start throwing some of them under the bus. Honestly could not give a shit if players took offense. We've got far too many twats here.
I want to dedicate a bit towards Rashford specifically. He needs to wake his fucking self up. Been a year and he's looked utter shit.
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Post by Chris on Jan 4, 2022 10:42:18 GMT
This picture
There is a wider picture and the other players look the same, like they've put a film on pause to get a game of football out the way. Wankers.
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Post by Karma on Jan 4, 2022 11:13:57 GMT
McFred shouldn’t be a thing. They are bench players.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 4, 2022 11:23:45 GMT
This picture There is a wider picture and the other players look the same, like they've put a film on pause to get a game of football out the way. Wankers. I know it isn't the point but, for me, Phil Jones can retire at this club if he chooses. Whatever else has gone on with him, not once has he ever phoned in a performance.
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Post by ratbag on Jan 4, 2022 11:26:52 GMT
McFred shouldn’t be a thing. They are bench players. They aren't even that good... How can McT go from MOTM one game to absolute crap the next? Such a lack of passion in this "team"...
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Post by Tinker on Jan 4, 2022 11:45:01 GMT
Start DDG and Jones next match, the rest can feck off, time to play the kids. Something else I need to get off my chest, I love Ronaldo but he's starting to grind on me. His whole body language is awful, touch him and he goes down like a tonne of bricks, he acts like a petulant kid when a decision goes against him and really at his age and current ability he should be a squad player, not starting every game. Also love Mason but is he ever going to be a 20+ goals a season striker? I'm not so sure which is why I would be happy for us to bring in some upcoming, youthful, energetic and goal hungry striker during this window.
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