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Post by unitedsotex on Feb 1, 2023 14:27:18 GMT
Watched some of his highlights on youtube and he has a cracking right foot. I hope he's ready to use it and to be a rock in the mid field alongside Cas....we are going to need him. Happy we made this loan. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Feb 1, 2023 14:53:17 GMT
It's probably more to do with injurys but this singing actually feels like one that has been thought about, a player that will fit the team needs, really excited to see what he brings to the table, and if he does well get him signed up in the summer.
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Post by RAZ on Feb 1, 2023 15:00:07 GMT
It's probably more to do with injurys but this singing actually feels like one that has been thought about, a player that will fit the team needs, really excited to see what he brings to the table, and if he does well get him signed up in the summer. i am very happy with getting sabitzer in on loan. but i wouldnt want to sign him in the summer. he will be 29 in march and our whole midfield is already in their prime and/or north of 30. we need to identify younger players who can come in and learn from the likes of casemiro, eriksen and bruno. be ready when they are needed and eventually slowly taking over from the experienced players |
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Post by Tatty on Feb 1, 2023 15:09:33 GMT
What I find strange is that Elanga is often referred to as striker, but he's never looked like a goalscorer. Besides being somewhat pacey I don't see how he's getting gametime ahead of Pellistri & Garnacho, the former isn't nearly as good as many have been claiming but both deserve more chances than Elanga. Bang average player. Edit: Elanga is actually valued at 25m on Transfermarkt - I feel like I'm in the twilight zone  I find it maddening that no one here rates Elanga, yet every club, bar Everton(lol), that was linked with a move for him in Jan has been praised by most here for identifying and nurturing young talent. Is it a case that we're all wrong, or the clubs chasing getting this one wrong? |
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Post by Bestie on Feb 1, 2023 15:23:41 GMT
What I find strange is that Elanga is often referred to as striker, but he's never looked like a goalscorer. Besides being somewhat pacey I don't see how he's getting gametime ahead of Pellistri & Garnacho, the former isn't nearly as good as many have been claiming but both deserve more chances than Elanga. Bang average player. Edit: Elanga is actually valued at 25m on Transfermarkt - I feel like I'm in the twilight zone I find it maddening that no one here rates Elanga, yet every club, bar Everton(lol), that was linked with a move for him in Jan has been praised by most here for identifying and nurturing young talent. Is it a case that we're all wrong, or the clubs chasing getting this one wrong? I genuinely haven't paid proper attention to the Elanga links. I remember Everton and Dortmund, who else? For Dortmund I would say they have identified a model of taking younger English players, playing them exclusively to their strengths to create hype/great stats, and then selling for big profit. Some will be legitimately good players, others will be fugazis. |
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Post by viking22 on Feb 1, 2023 15:26:48 GMT
PSV and Dortmund do occasionally develop some great talents. But majority of their players wouldn't get anywhere near our first team. So there is a lower bar and someone like Elanga might be a useful squad player for them. And note no one has offered hard cash they all want him on loan. And even if some cash offers come in the summer I cannot imagine us getting more than £10-£15m.
I think he's had enough game time with us for us to be quite sure that he isn't good enough and we won't have any regrets letting him leave in the summer.
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Post by Paul on Feb 1, 2023 15:30:24 GMT
What I find strange is that Elanga is often referred to as striker, but he's never looked like a goalscorer. Besides being somewhat pacey I don't see how he's getting gametime ahead of Pellistri & Garnacho, the former isn't nearly as good as many have been claiming but both deserve more chances than Elanga. Bang average player. Edit: Elanga is actually valued at 25m on Transfermarkt - I feel like I'm in the twilight zone I find it maddening that no one here rates Elanga, yet every club, bar Everton(lol), that was linked with a move for him in Jan has been praised by most here for identifying and nurturing young talent. Is it a case that we're all wrong, or the clubs chasing getting this one wrong? It's not so much about rating him, it's about rating him enough. As I've said he works hard and is always on the go but up to now that's all he's showing. He's only 20 so of course there's time to improve, the question is at the level he's at now can he improve enough? Because that's a lot of improving to be done. Maybe a loan deal for a season will give more of an answer to that. But with Garnacho coming into the first team and even Pellestri now, he's been knocked down the pecking order as both are offering and show far more promise. |
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Post by Tatty on Feb 1, 2023 15:38:53 GMT
I find it maddening that no one here rates Elanga, yet every club, bar Everton(lol), that was linked with a move for him in Jan has been praised by most here for identifying and nurturing young talent. Is it a case that we're all wrong, or the clubs chasing getting this one wrong? I genuinely haven't paid proper attention to the Elanga links. I remember Everton and Dortmund, who else? For Dortmund I would say they have identified a model of taking younger English players, playing them exclusively to their strengths to create hype/great stats, and then selling for big profit. Some will be legitimately good players, others will be fugazis. From now on, referred to as the Dirty Sancho... PS: Tony E is Swedish  |
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Post by Bestie on Feb 1, 2023 16:30:02 GMT
I genuinely haven't paid proper attention to the Elanga links. I remember Everton and Dortmund, who else? For Dortmund I would say they have identified a model of taking younger English players, playing them exclusively to their strengths to create hype/great stats, and then selling for big profit. Some will be legitimately good players, others will be fugazis. From now on, referred to as the Dirty Sancho... PS: Tony E is Swedish a) No comment. b) *English-based, but valid point  . |
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Post by johnboy14 on Feb 1, 2023 21:31:10 GMT
I find it maddening that no one here rates Elanga, yet every club, bar Everton(lol), that was linked with a move for him in Jan has been praised by most here for identifying and nurturing young talent. Is it a case that we're all wrong, or the clubs chasing getting this one wrong? It's not so much about rating him, it's about rating him enough. As I've said he works hard and is always on the go but up to now that's all he's showing. He's only 20 so of course there's time to improve, the question is at the level he's at now can he improve enough? Because that's a lot of improving to be done. Maybe a loan deal for a season will give more of an answer to that. But with Garnacho coming into the first team and even Pellestri now, he's been knocked down the pecking order as both are offering and show far more promise. I think Elanga is pretty limited but he's not going to improve as a player unless he plays. A loan move makes total sense for him. |
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Post by oscared on Jun 8, 2023 12:35:52 GMT
We are thinking about a signing apparently.
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Post by kstandhand on Jun 8, 2023 12:55:37 GMT
We are thinking about a signing apparently. But not yet at the monitoring stage |
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Post by juanveron on Jun 8, 2023 13:34:27 GMT
We are thinking about a signing apparently. But not yet at the monitoring stage We start monitoring towards the end of the window, or if we lose the first two games of the season. |
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Post by redcase on Jun 8, 2023 13:35:10 GMT
Thought we agreed to bench the monitoring etc. talk?
It is very tedious fc.
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Post by Paul on Jun 8, 2023 13:55:01 GMT
Thought we agreed to bench the monitoring etc. talk? It is very tedious fc. I'm just wondering why we're talking about signings for a window that closed 5 months ago 😂 |
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