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Post by Karma on Mar 6, 2023 11:34:11 GMT
I mean, am I the only one that has a problem with Rashford getting it in the neck for yesterday? When he was joined by 10 others who were awful? Am I the only one who has a problem with the glee in which a certain group of posters decide he’s fair game again despite being brilliant this season? Honestly. As horrendous as yesterday was certain players you can put it down to just a horrendous off day (something the needs to be stamped out). That's no excusing them for it but understanding that they've brought far more to the table this season. Rashford and Shaw are two of those players. Who have also started in practically all of our bad defeats this season. They don’t get a pass either. Along with De Gea. Rough with the smooth. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 6, 2023 11:36:57 GMT
There it is again. But look at yesterday's scoreline. I’m sorry but you’re irredeemable on this issue, you truly are. All the praise you’ve given him has clearly been through gritted teeth. You need to ask yourself why that is. I think we know but you refuse to accept it. It's because you have cemented the motion in your own head that my issue with Rashford was/is political nonsense and it's irrelevant that you are 100% wrong - that's the fact you have landed on and it's final. That is your problem, not mine. It totally unfair to try to retrospective my praise as 'through gritted teeth' - it clearly is not. I also don't think yesterday's performance erases the incredible step-up Rashford has made since December. Neither did Karma, come to it. Her's was actually a point about a potentially wider issue that numerous players have been battered by rivals and randoms alike for several years under various managers so maybe it's time to look at the players. That was all. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 6, 2023 11:37:04 GMT
Every single player was shite yesterday nobody came out with any credit what so ever, all our favourite players varane casemiro Martinez ect was horrendous, rashford wasn't even the worse, it's mad how it always seems to turn into a rashford bashing though. They’re just lurking, waiting for any excuse. The goal posts get shifted to suit their nonsense. It’s bizarre. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 6, 2023 11:38:54 GMT
Every single player was shite yesterday nobody came out with any credit what so ever, all our favourite players varane casemiro Martinez ect was horrendous, rashford wasn't even the worse, it's mad how it always seems to turn into a rashford bashing though. They’re just lurking, waiting for any excuse. The goal posts get shifted to suit their nonsense. It’s bizarre. What goalposts have been moved? Praise for success, criticism for failure. Why is bizarre about that? |
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Post by Stew on Mar 6, 2023 11:40:01 GMT
As horrendous as yesterday was certain players you can put it down to just a horrendous off day (something the needs to be stamped out). That's no excusing them for it but understanding that they've brought far more to the table this season. Rashford and Shaw are two of those players. Who have also started in practically all of our bad defeats this season. They don’t get a pass either. Along with De Gea. Rough with the smooth. Even by your standards, this stuff is truly mind-boggling. |
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Post by Stew on Mar 6, 2023 11:41:54 GMT
They’re just lurking, waiting for any excuse. The goal posts get shifted to suit their nonsense. It’s bizarre. What goalposts have been moved? Praise for success, criticism for failure. Why is bizarre about that? You’ve repeatedly said he needed to win something with his goals to win you over. Which he has now done. But that’s forgotten about now because he was one of 11 players that started yesterday? That’s fair is it? |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 6, 2023 11:47:40 GMT
What goalposts have been moved? Praise for success, criticism for failure. Why is bizarre about that? You’ve repeatedly said he needed to win something with his goals to win you over. Which he has now done. But that’s forgotten about now because he was one of 11 players that started yesterday? That’s fair is it? It isn't forgotten about. Who said it was? Show me the post that says that. Basically all my negative posts from yesterday are aimed at Fernandes. Literally my only involvement in this was defending Karma because she mentioned Rashford in a post with other players who have been around for the other humiliations over the last few seasons and was immediately pulled up for it. Rashford wasn't even being singled out. Then you start going in on me with two feet about 'through gritted teeth' praise when that is clearly untrue and once again labelling any criticism of Rashford as being based on a political agenda because that is what *you* have decided is fact. I'm telling you, again, that is simply is not. Which you then suggest is me lying to myself, or something? |
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Post by alt on Mar 6, 2023 11:48:26 GMT
It's as if I've become accustomed to this type of result when I wake up today and not be nearly as angry or frustrated as I should be, at least not about the result. I then think about Bruno and Antony again and want to ram their fucking heads into a wall.
I've already said plenty about Bruno but Antony is quickly being second to him in terms of being a petulant little prick. I almost want him to get wound up enough for him to react so he's fucked off out of the team for a while.
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Post by Paul on Mar 6, 2023 11:49:22 GMT
As horrendous as yesterday was certain players you can put it down to just a horrendous off day (something the needs to be stamped out). That's no excusing them for it but understanding that they've brought far more to the table this season. Rashford and Shaw are two of those players. Who have also started in practically all of our bad defeats this season. They don’t get a pass either. Along with De Gea. Rough with the smooth. This fanbase and rough with the smooth very rarely go together. Some people will be out with their pitch forks the moment certain players have a poor game. They have a great game though and they stay quiet waiting for the chance to pounce again. It's impossible to make any excuses for any of them yesterday. You say Rashford started in every bad defeat this season and you're right. But nothing said about the reverse fixtures this season where he scored the winner in all of them. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 6, 2023 11:49:42 GMT
It's horrific, but let's not throw the entire season out of the window as a result of this one game - we have, quite simply, been brilliant (potentially the best in Europe in terms of results) since the WC. If we can get top 3, and win two cups, then that would be a brilliant start for ETH. Trying to keep my focus on the bigger picture here, and the fact is with a proper CF, and a quality CM addition, we'll be right up there next year if we keep at this. Being pragmatic (mildly psychotic), this could be a good wake-up call + motivator as the team heads into some proper big games. Losing 7-0 to Liverpool is season defining though. Nothing we do for the rest of the season changes or improves it. I can't believe I'm actually typing about Manchester United losing 7-0 to Liverpool. Top three wasn't a brilliant anything before this. Two trophies was the bare minimum before this. There is no glossing this up. Yesterday was historic. It's the worst moment I have ever experienced watching United bar none. It genuinely feels surreal, unfathomable. I literally shake when I think about it. The magnitude of this cannot be willed away by scratching for positivity. This kind of humiliation transcends the sport.  I understand where you're coming from. Hypothetically, if at the beginning of the season you were offered a 3rd place finish in the league, the League Cup, FA Cup and Europa League - but you had to endure a big hiding to Liverpool - would you have taken it? Also, in this scenario, Liverpool don't finish in the top 4, and perhaps not even top 5. I probably would (and that can still happen), considering how long it's been since United won a trophy, particularly when keeping in mind all the conversations we've had about how some/all players cannot be considered truly great if they haven't contributed to winning a trophy. Sometimes you lose a battle, but win multiple wars - I would remember this (hypothetical) season for the three trophies and not the one hammering. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 6, 2023 11:51:09 GMT
He's a bit of a weapon but MikeLUHG on Twitter has militantly high standards and this was just retweeted on my feed. It's going to be unpopular because done if the favourites are outed but it's hard to objectively disagree with much if any of it: Live feed of MikeLUHG while he was going on that rant.  |
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Post by mightyez on Mar 6, 2023 11:52:15 GMT
The only excuse and tbh it's not even a viable one is that why the heck was Bruno on the left?
Don't understand that one, even Fred would have been better there.
I get playing players out of position when injuries call for it but when there are none, simply play them where they will be most effective, in Bruno's case that's right side or no.10.
Doesn't excuse the hand flapping, etc but.....
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Post by redcase on Mar 6, 2023 11:54:02 GMT
As horrendous as yesterday was certain players you can put it down to just a horrendous off day (something the needs to be stamped out). That's no excusing them for it but understanding that they've brought far more to the table this season. Rashford and Shaw are two of those players. Who have also started in practically all of our bad defeats this season. They don’t get a pass either. Along with De Gea. Rough with the smooth. Just like my nuts when the manscaper runs out of juice. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 6, 2023 11:54:51 GMT
Who have also started in practically all of our bad defeats this season. They don’t get a pass either. Along with De Gea. Rough with the smooth. This fanbase and rough with the smooth very rarely go together. Some people will be out with their pitch forks the moment certain players have a poor game. They have a great game though and they stay quiet waiting for the chance to pounce again. It's impossible to make any excuses for any of them yesterday. You say Rashford started in every bad defeat this season and you're right. But nothing said about the reverse fixtures this season where he scored the winner in all of them. I also included other players in that list. Not my fault you’re upset by his inclusion. |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 6, 2023 11:56:04 GMT
Yeah, that was mental. Don't even know wh at that refers to. The rest of the thread is spot on though. I don’t really want to go down the Rashford rabbit hole anyway, I was really pointing out that I can’t have any respect for the viewpoints of this bloke when he’s included stuff like that in there. Sadly the opinions don't take away from the associated facts. Some of those results are chastening looking back at them. |
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