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Post by redcase on May 14, 2024 6:55:07 GMT
Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund, Bruno, Kambwala, Martinez and Mainoo. That would be my keep list. Martinez has had a horrible season but I’m putting that on doctors who have done a shoddy job. The guy had surgery, pain was still there but he cracked on and then had to have the issue looked at again. I don’t think he is injury prone at all. Mate, all it takes is the first injury to be handled badly, for it to become a regular thing. A metatarsal fracture is a tricky one to begin with, depending on how badly the doctors screwed it up, it could go either way. |
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Post by viking22 on May 14, 2024 8:43:58 GMT
Yeah precisely. We are not getting screwed by the injuries we are getting screwed by the repeat injuries because the first injury isn't treated properly and players are rushed back or made to play through injury.
In March Casemiro was feeling it in his hamstring. Medical staff said he was fine and gave him the all-clear. Casemiro wasn't convinced and still felt some pain so went to see a doctor in Barcelona he knew from his days in Spain who found a small injury that could have worsened if he had played so he sat out the Liverpool QF game.
I wonder how many players were similarly given the all clear but either lacking experience or confidence trusted the medical staff and forced themselves to play through pain and injury? Or are rushed back into high intensity training sessions (and a lot of our injuries seem to happen in training).
You have Erik going on about how players need to be robust. A clearly incompetent medical staff. No doubt our medical facilities are outdated like everything else at the club. So little wonder our injury problems are so severe.
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Post by mightyez on May 14, 2024 9:30:18 GMT
Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund, Bruno, Kambwala, Martinez and Mainoo. That would be my keep list. Martinez has had a horrible season but I’m putting that on doctors who have done a shoddy job. The guy had surgery, pain was still there but he cracked on and then had to have the issue looked at again. I don’t think he is injury prone at all. Mate, all it takes is the first injury to be handled badly, for it to become a regular thing. A metatarsal fracture is a tricky one to begin with, depending on how badly the doctors screwed it up, it could go either way. Yeah that’s be re true. But science has come a long long way, I think he can be sorted out and managed. With a capable option behind him, there is less pressure if you get what I mean. |
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Post by Chris on May 14, 2024 10:15:45 GMT
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Post by Paul on May 14, 2024 11:18:05 GMT
Feel for the lad, getting shit from people that haven't got a clue.
It's criminal thr lack of ball the lad gets. Sunday he had 17 touches in 88 minutes. No player around him was even looking for him.
It's something that needs to be worked on with the coaches because this is why we're struggling to score. Every single wide player we have wants to go it themselves far too much and continually ignores better options around them.
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Post by viking22 on May 14, 2024 11:56:17 GMT
| Shots | Goal conversion | | Bruno Fernandes | 95 | 16% | | Rasmus Hojlund | 45 | 31% | | Scotty McT | 52 | 19% | | Garnacho | 73 | 12% | | Rashford | 55 | 15% | | Antony | 41 | 7% |
Table above is from BBC and covers all competitions and says it all really. Something badly wrong when your number 9 has the lowest number of shots of all your attacking players. But even so he is head and shoulders above the others when it comes to goal conversion. Even if you just look at the Premier League 21% is still better than the others. Garnacho's stats are particularly shocking. Fantastic talent but far too selfish and unfortunately we do not have senior players capable of chewing him out the way that Ronaldo had when he was still learning to play for the team. And the less said about Antony the better. Bruno's stats are disgraceful too. He is supposed to be the captain and our most creative player so if anyone should be providing good service to Hojlund it should be him. And obviously manager has to take a lot of blame for this. Everyone can see Rasmus is being starved of service. So onus on manager is to get the other players to feed Rasmus and punish them if they don't. |
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Post by RAZ on May 14, 2024 16:32:25 GMT
| Shots | Goal conversion | | Bruno Fernandes | 95 | 16% | | Rasmus Hojlund | 45 | 31% | | Scotty McT | 52 | 19% | | Garnacho | 73 | 12% | | Rashford | 55 | 15% | | Antony | 41 | 7% |
Table above is from BBC and covers all competitions and says it all really. Something badly wrong when your number 9 has the lowest number of shots of all your attacking players. But even so he is head and shoulders above the others when it comes to goal conversion. Even if you just look at the Premier League 21% is still better than the others. Garnacho's stats are particularly shocking. Fantastic talent but far too selfish and unfortunately we do not have senior players capable of chewing him out the way that Ronaldo had when he was still learning to play for the team. And the less said about Antony the better. Bruno's stats are disgraceful too. He is supposed to be the captain and our most creative player so if anyone should be providing good service to Hojlund it should be him. And obviously manager has to take a lot of blame for this. Everyone can see Rasmus is being starved of service. So onus on manager is to get the other players to feed Rasmus and punish them if they don't. i dont understand. what does brunos conversion rate exactly tell about his service for rasmus? pretty much nothing i would say. |
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Post by viking22 on May 14, 2024 17:19:50 GMT
If all our attacking players are taking lots of shots on goal then it goes a long way towards explaining why Rasmus is being starved of service. And counterproductive to the team because as you'd expect Rasmus has by far the most superior conversion rate and it is comparable with other top strikers in the league.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 19, 2024 16:54:04 GMT
16 goals in total for his first season then, with the cup final to come.
RoM was weirdly accurate + realistic about expectations it seems!
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Post by Stew on May 19, 2024 19:17:03 GMT
I’m repeating myself but 16 goals in this team is worth about 25 anywhere else imo. Absolutely shocking lack of service this season.
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Post by DedRevil on May 19, 2024 19:18:34 GMT
I’m repeating myself but 16 goals in this team is worth about 25 anywhere else imo. Absolutely shocking lack of service this season. 40 with his conversion rate. |
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Post by Kojak on May 19, 2024 19:41:02 GMT
I’m repeating myself but 16 goals in this team is worth about 25 anywhere else imo. Absolutely shocking lack of service this season. 40 with his conversion rate. Scored 9 from 19 shots in 2024. Ridiculous in terms of both strike rate and the lack of chances created for him. Not comparing them in terms of quality, but his output this season must be in and around what Rooney managed in his first season here. |
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Post by viking22 on May 20, 2024 7:44:40 GMT
Ronaldo in an equally crap team scored 26 goals. So ten goals less than the GOAT is pretty good going for a kid in his first season in the Premier League. And as pointed out his conversion rate is already that of a top tier striker so he just needs to become more selfish and confident and demand better service from those around him. And of course whoever is manager needs to insist the players around him feed him instead of going for glory (you can see the problem when players like Garnacho, Bruno, Rashford and Antony have all taken more shots than Hojlund this season).
Assuming he can avoid the injury curse I think we have our number 9 for the next five to ten years. That should allow us to prioritize defence and central midfield this summer. If we can we can find a cheap backup option for Hojlund. But wouldn't be the end of the world if assuming we cannot shift Rashford we use him as backup for Hojlund.
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Post by harvindhillon on May 20, 2024 10:03:48 GMT
Ronaldo in an equally crap team scored 26 goals. So ten goals less than the GOAT is pretty good going for a kid in his first season in the Premier League. And as pointed out his conversion rate is already that of a top tier striker so he just needs to become more selfish and confident and demand better service from those around him. And of course whoever is manager needs to insist the players around him feed him instead of going for glory (you can see the problem when players like Garnacho, Bruno, Rashford and Antony have all taken more shots than Hojlund this season). Assuming he can avoid the injury curse I think we have our number 9 for the next five to ten years. That should allow us to prioritize defence and central midfield this summer. If we can we can find a cheap backup option for Hojlund. But wouldn't be the end of the world if assuming we cannot shift Rashford we use him as backup for Hojlund. You're forgetting that that team didnt have problems passing to Ronaldo  |
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Post by caino on May 20, 2024 11:59:28 GMT
G Nev saying he wont be a top top level striker.. we dont know if he will be a Benzema for example, but if he can be a Cavani which he has so many similarities to then thats a winner winner.
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