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Post by kstandhand on Sept 21, 2023 6:09:28 GMT
Last night performance was a predictable as losing to a winless Burnley will be on Saturday.
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Post by mightyez on Sept 21, 2023 6:24:13 GMT
Onana made a gaff but also made about 6 saves in that game. Showed personality to own his error.
Defence is a joke but midfield is non existent, Casemiro is better going forward, him and Eriksen as a pair is not clever.
Glad Rasmus got a goal, glad we got 3 goals.
Rashford has to realise it’s a team game.
Play same team this weekend but I’d probably drop Eriksen
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 21, 2023 6:31:43 GMT
I was fuming with Onana at the time, but this morning I seem to have found some perspective when reminiscing about De Gea's entire first (flapping) season at United.
We actually looked really good until we conceded the goal, as has been the case all season. Not super surprising considering the state of the defence.
Reckon we'll do Burnley on Saturday, and beat Palace thereafter too.
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Post by redcase on Sept 21, 2023 6:35:36 GMT
I was fuming with Onana at the time, but this morning I seem to have found some perspective when reminiscing about De Gea's entire first (flapping) season at United.We actually looked really good until we conceded the goal, as has been the case all season. Not super surprising considering the state of the defence. Reckon we'll do Burnley on Saturday, and beat Palace thereafter too. I have to absolutely disagree with you there - De Gea was 20 when he signed, raw and inexperienced. Onana is in his prime and this cannot be a viable excuse for his performances. We are supposed to have bought a player ready to deliver, not one with potential and rough around the edges. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Sept 21, 2023 6:41:19 GMT
This seems to be an issue only with us , city players dont have trouble maintaining standards with their big contracts , Madrid or Barca players dont have this issue , Mbappe is not distracted with all those money around him since young age. We almost always pick the lazy bums. city have a player waiting in the wings to eject any underperforming player from the starting 11. There you go. There's nothing stopping the manager dropping players though. Garnacho can play on the left and it won't get much worse in my opinion. You can't let those hopeless performances go unchecked because it normalises it. Pellistri, Hojlund and Garnacho would be starting games for me. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 21, 2023 6:53:03 GMT
I was fuming with Onana at the time, but this morning I seem to have found some perspective when reminiscing about De Gea's entire first (flapping) season at United.We actually looked really good until we conceded the goal, as has been the case all season. Not super surprising considering the state of the defence. Reckon we'll do Burnley on Saturday, and beat Palace thereafter too. I have to absolutely disagree with you there - De Gea was 20 when he signed, raw and inexperienced. Onana is in his prime and this cannot be a viable excuse for his performances. We are supposed to have bought a player ready to deliver, not one with potential and rough around the edges. You're absolutely right, obviously. Onana had the highest number of clean sheets in the CL last season so there are no excuses. I suppose what we're realizing is that the weight of expectations associated with wearing the Utd shirt can absolutely crush players who otherwise perform really well elsewhere. |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Sept 21, 2023 6:59:57 GMT
Last night’s mistake from Onana can happen but when combined with some of the other goals that he’s let in so far is what causes me to worry.
He doesn’t look even half the shotstopper Dave was, which is going to be a huge problem considering the amount of chances we give up.
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Post by safariRed on Sept 21, 2023 7:11:20 GMT
Give him his due at least he owned it. Won't see that from any of the others. Just excuses about how we should do better. Was a howler of a mistake but he's only just got here so deserves the benefit of the doubt for that one I think. Needs to learn from it though. I mean he could’ve learned from it from his entire career. That sort of poppadom wrist stuff is all too common with him. His biggest problem is that he doesn't have competition, DDG was dogshit until we brought in Henderson. |
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Post by Stew on Sept 21, 2023 7:15:21 GMT
I mean he could’ve learned from it from his entire career. That sort of poppadom wrist stuff is all too common with him. His biggest problem is that he doesn't have competition, DDG was dogshit until we brought in Henderson. De Gea was never ‘dogshit’ ffs. Absolutely ridiculous thing to post. |
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Post by Stew on Sept 21, 2023 7:17:13 GMT
I have to absolutely disagree with you there - De Gea was 20 when he signed, raw and inexperienced. Onana is in his prime and this cannot be a viable excuse for his performances. We are supposed to have bought a player ready to deliver, not one with potential and rough around the edges. You're absolutely right, obviously. Onana had the highest number of clean sheets in the CL last season so there are no excuses. I suppose what we're realizing is that the weight of expectations associated with wearing the Utd shirt can absolutely crush players who otherwise perform really well elsewhere. Personally I think it’s more to do with the fact Inter are better than us, particularly defensively. |
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Post by redcase on Sept 21, 2023 7:30:11 GMT
I have to absolutely disagree with you there - De Gea was 20 when he signed, raw and inexperienced. Onana is in his prime and this cannot be a viable excuse for his performances. We are supposed to have bought a player ready to deliver, not one with potential and rough around the edges. You're absolutely right, obviously. Onana had the highest number of clean sheets in the CL last season so there are no excuses. I suppose what we're realizing is that the weight of expectations associated with wearing the Utd shirt can absolutely crush players who otherwise perform really well elsewhere. I like Onana and want him to succeed because he seems genuinely interested to do well. Stew has a good point re our backline vs Inter. He needs to clear out these individual errors though. |
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Post by redcase on Sept 21, 2023 7:30:49 GMT
His biggest problem is that he doesn't have competition, DDG was dogshit until we brought in Henderson. De Gea was never ‘dogshit’ ffs. Absolutely ridiculous thing to post. Who was it, FGUAW (?), who said some fans on here are double agents who actually don't support this club at all. |
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Post by anti_social on Sept 21, 2023 7:47:02 GMT
Onana aside, credit where it’s due to Reguilon. He actually looked like he gave a shit all match and looks a very useful addition to the squad.
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Post by viking22 on Sept 21, 2023 7:49:31 GMT
I think most goalkeepers would be unsettled by our back line. Dave obviously is used to fire fighting but Onana is used to playing in teams with settled defences with a good understanding. And while he isn't an elite shot stopper the way Dave is he's played in Ajax and Inter teams that went far in the Champions League so I don't think he will be a long term liability for us. And it is refreshing he is taking ownership of his mistakes. None of our other players ever seem to do that.
Defence clearly isn't getting the protection it was used to last season. And Varane is being badly missed. We should have signed Pavard. Inter got him for 30m euros. And his experience would have been very useful. But obviously Erik by that point had already blown his wad on Onana and Mount when CB and CDM should have been the next priorities after a striker.
A midfield of Casemiro and Eriksen isn't going to work this season. Hopefully Amrabat will slot in along Casemiro and help us hold our own in midfield. But again you are in the same situation where if anything happens to Amrabat then we are back at square 1. We really need to start blooding Mainoo (once back from injury) and Hannibal. Neither Scotty nor Eriksen are the answer.
Rashford has always been this way. When the team starts playing well he will start scoring goals. But when we are playing badly he goes missing and stops trying and loses his discipline. He should be embarrassed really when a kid Hojlund's age put in a much better shift.
Disappointing that Pellistri didn't do more. But I feel for the lad. He hasn't been given the minutes he deserved last season and was denied a loan move in January. Hopefully Eriksen will give him a few more starts. But unfortunately most likely Mount will be brought in on the right as soon as he is fit.
And that is the problem with the club. If players do not have a massive fee attached to them or aren't Erik signings they aren't really given much in the way of chances and need to play incredibly well to force their way into the manager's thinking. Whereas players like Antony, Donny, Sancho got loads of appearances despite rarely impressing.
Garnacho should be given some starts based on Rashford's current form. We should stick with Pellistri because if he does progress it will save us having to spend £100m next summer on yet another right winger. And with Eriksen looking past it and Mount looking uncomfortable in a central midfield role we should be giving Mainoo and Hannibal a run in the team. At least then some good might come out of the season.
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Post by Chris on Sept 21, 2023 7:56:53 GMT
I've watched 50% of our games this season and I don't miss it at all. My advice is to try it and give your mental health a boost. I'm not watching overpaid pricks putting no effort in for 90 minutes. I've been getting back into watching Entourage. Spent last nights game watching that. Great show!
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