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Post by redcase on Sept 21, 2023 10:46:35 GMT
Also after last night McTominay can fuck off aswell. Never want to see him in a united shirt again. He knows he can get away with a lack of effort. After all players have gone on open mutiny against the manager and the only punishment they get is to train away from the team. Guardiola threw cancelo off the team the moment they had a serious incident. |
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Post by keanosdog16 on Sept 21, 2023 11:14:23 GMT
Also after last night McTominay can fuck off aswell. Never want to see him in a united shirt again. That is disgusting but he's not the only player we've seen do that kind of thing, i hope these videos get shown to them and they're asked to explain In fact i'd like there to be an opportunity for these players to sit in front of a select group of fans where shit like this can be highlighted and then have them explain their motives for not busting a gut! utter spineless wankers |
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Post by viking22 on Sept 21, 2023 12:08:19 GMT
It is on Erik as well. He has youngsters like Mainoo, Garnacho, Hannibal, Pellistri waiting in the wings. So if any first team players fail to follow instructions or show anything less than 100% effort and commitment they should be benched.
But of course we all know that the second the squad turns on the manager and properly downs tools then the manager will be the one out of the door as soon as top 4 looks out of reach. Happened with all the others and with Glazers still in charge I do not see it being any different.
So Erik will pander to the players and not call them out on their failure to meet the required standards and they will all keep their places while our youngsters will rot on the bench and not get the minutes they need to progress.
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Post by redcase on Sept 21, 2023 12:21:14 GMT
It is on Erik as well. He has youngsters like Mainoo, Garnacho, Hannibal, Pellistri waiting in the wings. So if any first team players fail to follow instructions or show anything less than 100% effort and commitment they should be benched. But of course we all know that the second the squad turns on the manager and properly downs tools then the manager will be the one out of the door as soon as top 4 looks out of reach. Happened with all the others and with Glazers still in charge I do not see it being any different. So Erik will pander to the players and not call them out on their failure to meet the required standards and they will all keep their places while our youngsters will rot on the bench and not get the minutes they need to progress. It starts with owners and people above him. You look at what Guardiola has in terms of a DoF and support staff - they are really fucking savvy and know how to deal with clubs and players. They back their manager no questions asked. Now look at the glorified fishmongers we’ve got. The management sets the tone - they should immediately publicly back the manager and support any decision he makes. They need to take action against such players contractually or transfer listing them. Of course they should the right players in the first place. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Sept 21, 2023 12:41:07 GMT
It is on Erik as well. He has youngsters like Mainoo, Garnacho, Hannibal, Pellistri waiting in the wings. So if any first team players fail to follow instructions or show anything less than 100% effort and commitment they should be benched. But of course we all know that the second the squad turns on the manager and properly downs tools then the manager will be the one out of the door as soon as top 4 looks out of reach. Happened with all the others and with Glazers still in charge I do not see it being any different. So Erik will pander to the players and not call them out on their failure to meet the required standards and they will all keep their places while our youngsters will rot on the bench and not get the minutes they need to progress. It starts with owners and people above him. You look at what Guardiola has in terms of a DoF and support staff - they are really fucking savvy and know how to deal with clubs and players. They back their manager no questions asked. Now look at the glorified fishmongers we’ve got. The management sets the tone - they should immediately publicly back the manager and support any decision he makes. They need to take action against such players contractually or transfer listing them. Of course they should the right players in the first place. You rarely hear their DoF or staff names in media, those cheating scums work like a well oiled machine. I was thinking of the Gabriel Jesus transfer to Arsenal, he is similar age like Rashford , his stats are even better than Rashford, very good player. Still city moved him on , they dont even care he moved to one of their main rivals in the PL race. |
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Post by seanie on Sept 21, 2023 12:45:24 GMT
Also after last night McTominay can fuck off aswell. Never want to see him in a united shirt again. Yeah, but that first touch ooohh. I'd love the know the truth about McT in the transfer market. We got a good offer, but made all this noise that he was a big important part of the squad. He hasn't got any real game time, despite Eriksen and Casemiro being terrible together, so what's his big important part of the squad. He's never been good enough or settled in that central mid. It's mostly his passing and positioning and clearly they don't rate him if they can't start him ahead of the other shit show so far. I really hope Amrabat is as good as he's being touted in this role, because we have fuck all else. I don't see how Mount fixes it either unless Amrabat can play on his own with Mount and Bruno and that works as planned. We have to remember we have so many players out that are important and just can't manage that. I still believe it gets a lot better, but that may be hopium. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, can they please spend the week showing videos of the 4 same goals we conceded with that simple pullback to a man standing on his own in the box with ample players there to pick him up, while the CB's and the holding mids were nowhere near! 4 goals like that in 6 games is a joke! |
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Post by seanie on Sept 21, 2023 12:57:22 GMT
Last night’s mistake from Onana can happen but when combined with some of the other goals that he’s let in so far is what causes me to worry. He doesn’t look even half the shotstopper Dave was, which is going to be a huge problem considering the amount of chances we give up. He has actually made some good saves too and we shouldn't be a team that has our goalie peppered with shots every game. We should be dominating possession and stopping attacks before, so this doesn't happen as much. He's not as good as peak Dave as a shot stopper, but he's not bad. All round he's more of what we need and that's coming from someone who was against him this year during the window. The problem I had then and still stands is what's in front of him isn't good enough to cope with or play that way! Defensively, both midfield and center backs have been awful so far and about as bad as anyone in the PL. It's been the same with some of the forwards tracking and giving the opposition the ball from simple passes not under pressure, like McT in that video and Bruno late on when pushing for the winner, that led to their 4th. |
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Post by Paul on Sept 21, 2023 14:20:11 GMT
Also after last night McTominay can fuck off aswell. Never want to see him in a united shirt again. That is disgusting but he's not the only player we've seen do that kind of thing, i hope these videos get shown to them and they're asked to explain In fact i'd like there to be an opportunity for these players to sit in front of a select group of fans where shit like this can be highlighted and then have them explain their motives for not busting a gut! utter spineless wankers I'm fed up of a few that do it. Rashford being one of the main culprits. Defended him all of last season in the hope that last year would be a stepping stone and we'd see a different side to him this year. But he's regressed back to half arsing it again after his nice new contract. His effort off the ball is deserving of being dropped altogether. McTominay though had only just come on so should have had plenty of energy to run back. It just highlights the lack of effort half of these players are willing to put in. We saw the same on Saturday and during the 2nd half of the Spurs game. |
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Post by Paul on Sept 21, 2023 14:20:56 GMT
Also after last night McTominay can fuck off aswell. Never want to see him in a united shirt again. He knows he can get away with a lack of effort. After all players have gone on open mutiny against the manager and the only punishment they get is to train away from the team. Guardiola threw cancelo off the team the moment they had a serious incident. This needs to start happening otherwise Ten Hag will be the next scapegoat for these lazy bunch of cunts. |
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Post by Stretty on Sept 21, 2023 14:42:34 GMT
He knows he can get away with a lack of effort. After all players have gone on open mutiny against the manager and the only punishment they get is to train away from the team. Guardiola threw cancelo off the team the moment they had a serious incident. And they all get another 2 years while the new manager assesses them. rinse and repeat |
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Post by viking22 on Sept 21, 2023 14:48:25 GMT
We have Garnacho and Mount. So there is no excuse for not dropping players like Rashford and Bruno if they aren't pulling their weight and showing the necessary effort and commitment. And as soon as Mainoo is fit he should be given the minutes that Scotty is undeservedly getting. Getting frozen out of the team might help get Scotty to agree to a move in January and hopefully his performances for Scotland will be enough to keep a few teams interested.
Rashford is an utter disgrace. Erik worked really hard with him to help him achieve his most prolific season yet and earned a fat new contract as a result. But he's regressed this season and only has a single goal to his name. And with the state of our defence if Rashford can't start scoring regularly then Erik is going to lose his job.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Sept 21, 2023 14:55:09 GMT
I would understand and back him right now if he wanted to start a midfield 3 of Mainoo, Hanibal and Gore, then Garnacho, Rasmus and Pellistri up top, drop those half arsed wasters to the bench or out the squad altogether, also, is Rhys Bennett fit, get him in the team as well ahead of that soft fucker Lindelof, although Martinez has hardly been at it either.
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Post by mightyez on Sept 21, 2023 15:17:55 GMT
we didn't stop MCT from leaving they rejected a totally fair offer. course they stopped him We also accepted a fair offer from Fulham, he rejected the move. It's the reason the Palhinha move failed. |
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Post by viking22 on Sept 21, 2023 15:27:03 GMT
Bayern want to resurrect their interest in Palhinha in January so we should have another chance to sell Scotty to Fulham. And a long spell on the bench might make him more willing to make the move.
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Post by Paul on Sept 21, 2023 15:34:49 GMT
This needs to start happening otherwise Ten Hag will be the next scapegoat for these lazy bunch of cunts. And they all get another 2 years while the new manager assesses them. rinse and repeat Feel for Ten Hag. Yes he's made mistakes but he's let down by those cunts above him and by the lazy bastards below him. It'll be his fault again like it was with those before him. The players will hide behind that criticism and they'll be allowed to go again. |
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