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Post by Karma on Dec 12, 2023 22:50:01 GMT
Honestly not one bit bothered. No matter how far this club goes after a rebuild its back to square one eventually. Burn the cunting club to the ground. The issue is rebuilding in the first place. How many other elite clubs rebrand failure with this rebuilding bollocks ?
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Post by Stew on Dec 12, 2023 22:58:35 GMT
I understand that a few will want to try and take positives from nothing but there were none, Fresh legs trying to impress against a side coasting and not really trying mean ZERO. Have you seen much of Mainoo? The youth team, reserves? He’s one of the most composed CMs the club has produced in about 15 years.
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Post by Paul on Dec 12, 2023 23:19:21 GMT
I understand that a few will want to try and take positives from nothing but there were none, Fresh legs trying to impress against a side coasting and not really trying mean ZERO. Have you seen much of Mainoo? The youth team, reserves? He’s one of the most composed CMs the club has produced in about 15 years. For the 10 minutes he was on he was far more composed than McTominay. We need to be using him more. Aslong as he's match fit there no reason not to.
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Post by aussiegraham on Dec 13, 2023 1:52:32 GMT
I guess being knocked out saves us the embarrassment of being trounced facing a proper CL team in the next round.
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Post by mightyez on Dec 13, 2023 5:16:31 GMT
ETH has little to no excuses those players will be getting a weeks rest so we need to see some coaching, tactics and patterns of good play
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Post by Kamilo on Dec 13, 2023 5:37:40 GMT
ETH has little to no excuses those players will be getting a weeks rest so we need to see some coaching, tactics and patterns of good play He’s all ready admitted that he will not and cannot implement his Ajax style of play with this group so unless he has another philosophy up his sleeve we haven’t seen to date it’s Ole freestyle football status quo going forward. What the fuck do they actually do in training?
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Post by Stretty on Dec 13, 2023 6:22:15 GMT
I get it wouldn't have mattered but still a gutless performance anyway. What an absolute shambolic campaign in a group that we should've comfortably got out of. Onana definitely cost us in this tournament more than anyone but we don't deserve to move on further regardless. I'm just at a loss to try and work out where we go from here. The manager inspires zero confidence, we have been awful virtually all season and he doesn't appear to have attempted to change our shape/setup/formation/tactics once. He looks to be devoid of any tactical nous whatsoever. He no doubt inherited some shit players but he's spent a fortune and arguably made the squad worse. Onana has been a catastrophe and the worst United keeper since Taibi; Antony garbage; Hojlund a talent but not even close to being ready to lead the line on his own; Mount pointless. Bruno continues to flatter to deceive and looks a poor choice for captain; Rashford is an average footballer who occasionally hits a purple patch of form and we've been so shit that Maguire has come back into the side and looked one of our better players this season. This isn't to let the owners off the hook or for one second suggest they are still not the single biggest factor in our disgusting demise. A 35-year-old Jonny Evans finished the game in our defence today, whilst the opposition had a player in there who by all accounts was keen on moving here this summer, in Kim - who was excellent. I don't think the manager deserves to stay in the job but at the same time I have no idea who you bring in. They're going to inherit a squad without any real leaders or standout quality, made up of past mistakes by all previous managers (including ETH) who will remain hard to shift. It's just a complete fucking mess and we've got the Scouse on Sunday. Brilliant. Good post. This sums the whole situation up perfectly.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 13, 2023 7:05:45 GMT
ETH has little to no excuses those players will be getting a weeks rest so we need to see some coaching, tactics and patterns of good play He’s all ready admitted that he will not and cannot implement his Ajax style of play with this group so unless he has another philosophy up his sleeve we haven’t seen to date it’s Ole freestyle football status quo going forward. What the fuck do they actually do in training? I haven't seen anything that closely resembles it. Even if you don't have the players we should still see something that resembles it, especially if the manager believes in it. Just about every team in the PL plays better football than us.
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Post by Kojak on Dec 13, 2023 7:59:55 GMT
ETH has little to no excuses those players will be getting a weeks rest so we need to see some coaching, tactics and patterns of good play He’s all ready admitted that he will not and cannot implement his Ajax style of play with this group so unless he has another philosophy up his sleeve we haven’t seen to date it’s Ole freestyle football status quo going forward. What the fuck do they actually do in training? Harsh on Ole this as for his faults, we were the best counter attacking team in the league under him. What are we the best at now?
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Post by keanosdog16 on Dec 13, 2023 8:10:00 GMT
Erik is certainly doing some strange things this season, his reluctance to change systems, shape and tactics etc is baffling, although injuries certainly haven't helped and no one has any sympathy for us like they do the beloved Geordies but maybe things had to get a whole lot worse before they can get better, maybe, like in the early days of Fergie when things were bad and fans were calling for his head, there are things going on in the back ground within the club that we just don't know about, this change of culture etc that has been talked about that is going to benefit the club in the long run, a restructuring of the youth setup maybe too, this is just me hoping and it might be that Erik is not the man in the long run but he may just be putting things in place that will help the next man, whoever that might be, its going to take time, probably years.
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Post by alt on Dec 13, 2023 8:50:00 GMT
ETH has little to no excuses those players will be getting a weeks rest so we need to see some coaching, tactics and patterns of good play You make it sound like he's not had 18 months to do this already?
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Post by Karma on Dec 13, 2023 9:09:33 GMT
It’s like survival football at it’s absolute worst.
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Post by bushy1987 on Dec 13, 2023 9:18:51 GMT
This whole rebuild is a load off bollox, it's like rebuilding a house because the foundations have failed, but instead of replacing the dodgy foundations and rebuilding from the bottom up, you keep them and try and put a new house on top and then wonder why it keeps falling down, the rebuild is never going to happen when the same failed players and the same failed backroom staff are still here.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Dec 13, 2023 9:18:59 GMT
The thing that annoys me is how insipid we were. Why not like the first game, which we lost but at least went for the throat?
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Post by alt on Dec 13, 2023 10:06:56 GMT
This is why I can't take him seriously anymore. One shot on target (Shaw's long-range effort) and we never looked threatening for the whole game.
He's in fucking cuckoo land and it's just embarrassing/laughable.
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