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Post by Tatty on Sept 30, 2024 7:44:21 GMT
I'd rather Southgate than watch anything close resembling that again.
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Post by Paul on Sept 30, 2024 8:12:52 GMT
Ten Hag has to go, no question now. But not all is on him. Yesterday was just as much on the players, if not more. They can't finish chances, can't even pass the fucking ball 10 yards without losing it. It's basic stuff.
Saw the first goal a few times this morning and can't beleive how easy it was for van der ven to run straight through 4 players without a single attempt at tackling him. Not even going to begin with Dalot pulling up and allowing Johnson a free tap in. How people rate him is beyond me. He is fucking dogshit.
Annoyed about the red aswell. Any competent official especially with the use of video technology should be able to see that although clumsy he clearly slipping in the lead up to it. It may not have had any impact in the result given how we were playing but at the time it was 1-0 so there was a chance. Kavanagh was one sided for most of the game anyway.
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Post by Paul on Sept 30, 2024 8:16:58 GMT
Points in last 15 premier league games.
Everton - 21 United - 19
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Post by caino on Sept 30, 2024 8:19:24 GMT
That side yesterday was pretty much a full strength team.
It was abysmal. The players in that team are actually good footballers too, there’s no cloggers like in the past but they couldn’t and can’t keep the ball.
His time has ran out.
Time to pull the trigger on Tuchel, he’s realistically the best target but the concern is it’s a 2 year contract
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Post by Stew on Sept 30, 2024 8:24:45 GMT
7 wins in the last 29 league and European games. The plan is 👌🙄 Jesus wept.
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Post by Stew on Sept 30, 2024 8:29:06 GMT
That side yesterday was pretty much a full strength team. It was abysmal. The players in that team are actually good footballers too, there’s no cloggers like in the past but they couldn’t and can’t keep the ball. His time has ran out. Time to pull the trigger on Tuchel, he’s realistically the best target but the concern is it’s a 2 year contract I met a pal last night who I’d not seen in ages. He supports Liverpool but he’s not a maniac, you can have a decent conversation about football with him. He said he’d honestly never seen anything like our midfield in the game at OT recently, couldn’t believe how disjointed it was, how a simple bit of football was all that was needed and you were straight through at our defence. He also said, and this was the bit I thought was actually truly revealing, it’s not good for English football for Utd to be this bad for so long, that it diminishes the game.
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Post by redcase on Sept 30, 2024 8:41:01 GMT
That side yesterday was pretty much a full strength team. It was abysmal. The players in that team are actually good footballers too, there’s no cloggers like in the past but they couldn’t and can’t keep the ball. His time has ran out. Time to pull the trigger on Tuchel, he’s realistically the best target but the concern is it’s a 2 year contract I met a pal last night who I’d not seen in ages. He supports Liverpool but he’s not a maniac, you can have a decent conversation about football with him. He said he’d honestly never seen anything like our midfield in the game at OT recently, couldn’t believe how disjointed it was, how a simple bit of football was all that was needed and you were straight through at our defence. He also said, and this was the bit I thought was actually truly revealing, it’s not good for English football for Utd to be this bad for so long, that it diminishes the game. Rumor is, players aren’t sure what he’s asking of them. Normally I’d hold for further evidence but the proof is in the pudding. He’s fucking clueless. And he can’t get the players to fall behind him. It’s an unmitigated disaster, each passing game. It’s looking more and more like a case of here is the new king, same as the old.
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Post by Kojak on Sept 30, 2024 8:48:40 GMT
They were keen on commentary to blame Rashford for the first Spurs goal. Seen people online claiming he’s pulled out of a 50/50. It’s an 80/20 at best in favour of the CB. Think he half expected Garnacho to go for the ball too, would’ve been better placed for it, breakdown in communication a little bit. Then there was, why didn’t Rashford foul the defender? Well, because you don’t expect a CB to run 75 yards with the ball, through about five players behind you. I’d argue that’s the main thing he’s guilty of, expecting a colleague in the three quarters of the pitch behind you to put a tackle in.
The sending off is insane, but we hadn’t looked good before that. Zirkzee had a great chance but his finishing is a disgrace.
Thought Martinez was pretty good second half and was clearly ashamed of the performance. Garnacho kept going. This is why we need to sack the manager now. Because it won’t be long before we tarnish the players who are as yet untarnished.
Also, Dalot is still absolutely shite.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 30, 2024 8:52:31 GMT
My hope is that there is enough at stake, and there are enough competent folks at INEOS, to act fast and not leave this to fester and sour the entire season.
Surely they'd also like to try and get this newly assembled team moving in the right direction soon, with buy-in from the fanbase.
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Post by mightyez on Sept 30, 2024 9:03:11 GMT
My hope is that there is enough at stake, and there are enough competent folks at INEOS, to act fast and not leave this to fester and sour the entire season. Surely they'd also like to try and get this newly assembled team moving in the right direction soon, with buy-in from the fanbase. Supposedly he is going nowhere for the next 2 games
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Post by redcase on Sept 30, 2024 9:07:59 GMT
My hope is that there is enough at stake, and there are enough competent folks at INEOS, to act fast and not leave this to fester and sour the entire season. Surely they'd also like to try and get this newly assembled team moving in the right direction soon, with buy-in from the fanbase. Supposedly he is going nowhere for the next 2 games Nobody is going anywhere anyway neither club nor manager. Might as well indulge our vicariousness along the way.
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Post by Paul on Sept 30, 2024 9:25:41 GMT
My hope is that there is enough at stake, and there are enough competent folks at INEOS, to act fast and not leave this to fester and sour the entire season. Surely they'd also like to try and get this newly assembled team moving in the right direction soon, with buy-in from the fanbase. Supposedly he is going nowhere for the next 2 games We're getting fuck all from those aswell.
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Post by Paul on Sept 30, 2024 9:34:02 GMT
I met a pal last night who I’d not seen in ages. He supports Liverpool but he’s not a maniac, you can have a decent conversation about football with him. He said he’d honestly never seen anything like our midfield in the game at OT recently, couldn’t believe how disjointed it was, how a simple bit of football was all that was needed and you were straight through at our defence. He also said, and this was the bit I thought was actually truly revealing, it’s not good for English football for Utd to be this bad for so long, that it diminishes the game. Rumor is, players aren’t sure what he’s asking of them. Normally I’d hold for further evidence but the proof is in the pudding. He’s fucking clueless. And he can’t get the players to fall behind him. It’s an unmitigated disaster, each passing game. It’s looking more and more like a case of here is the new king, same as the old. I agree with you and he's at fault for a lot of what's going on. What he isn't at fault for though is allowing a centreback to run through you without the effort to put in a tackle. He isn't to blame for not being to string a simple pass together. Some of the passing yesterday was atrocious and would genuinely see better at grass roots level. He needs to go, no questions asked but these players aren't avoidance of blame either.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 30, 2024 9:42:18 GMT
At this point, it seems inevitable Ten Hag will not succeed at United - if that's clear for everyone to see, why wait?
Get Ruud in, let's get excited and possibly ride that bounce to a decent season.
Less tactics (sic), more football / enjoyment!
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Post by johnboy14 on Sept 30, 2024 10:00:46 GMT
Rumor is, players aren’t sure what he’s asking of them. Normally I’d hold for further evidence but the proof is in the pudding. He’s fucking clueless. And he can’t get the players to fall behind him. It’s an unmitigated disaster, each passing game. It’s looking more and more like a case of here is the new king, same as the old. I agree with you and he's at fault for a lot of what's going on. What he isn't at fault for though is allowing a centreback to run through you without the effort to put in a tackle. He isn't to blame for not being to string a simple pass together. Some of the passing yesterday was atrocious and would genuinely see better at grass roots level. He needs to go, no questions asked but these players aren't avoidance of blame either. I agree but he's still picking them. The players don't fear him or being dropped. Also there all on big money and thats a huge problem. Ten Hag looks menacing but in reality he's really not. Danny Murphy was asked last night on MOTD if he was a motivator or tactician. Took him a while to answer but you could see he wanted to say neither.
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