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Post by ericactor1 on Jun 7, 2010 20:52:34 GMT
We'll just have to wait and see lads my money is on Mayweather, his tactics will be too much for Manny. He has to be one of the most intelligent boxers to brace the ring.
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Post by Rob on Jun 7, 2010 20:55:02 GMT
We'll just have to wait and see lads my money is on Mayweather, his tactics will be too much for Manny. He has to be one of the most intelligent boxers to brace the ring. Well, choosing his opponents does make him intelligent....
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Post by ericactor1 on Jun 7, 2010 20:57:14 GMT
You could say that Manny not much better. We've heard all this before with Mayweather how he wouldn't handle the likes of Hatton and other boxers, but every fight he comes out on top thanks to genius tactics.
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Post by Rob on Jun 7, 2010 21:03:35 GMT
You could say that Manny not much better. We've heard all this before with Mayweather how he wouldn't handle the likes of Hatton and other boxers, but every fight he comes out on top thanks to genius tactics. The only opponents he had probs with were Castillo(who was exposed by Hatton easily), then there is ODLH, who was unlucky to lose as it should have been a draw. Anyway, win, lose or draw, I think it will be a good match-up.
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Post by ericactor1 on Jun 7, 2010 23:16:02 GMT
Yeah think it will be a epic match up. Some mentioned on the thread that Manny has agreed to take the test. But I haven't heard this officially ? I don't know if that information was correct.
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Post by Rob on Jun 8, 2010 4:53:47 GMT
Yeah think it will be a epic match up. Some mentioned on the thread that Manny has agreed to take the test. But I haven't heard this officially ? I don't know if that information was correct. Yes, he has agreed to the test. He didn't wanted to be dictated to by the Mayweathers as to agree or not, so, he just came out and said he wants to do the test, remember, its a 50/50 split, Mayweather cannot have it all his own way.
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Post by mightyez on Jun 8, 2010 5:47:31 GMT
oscar draw with floyd, watch the match again, i thought it was a draw watched it again and saw oscar throw and hit air and elbows, floyd won clean, he toyed with oscar thats the reality of it, he has good trainers above all else he is a boxer all the way with brains, he adapts quickly and decisevely, firts few rounds maybe manny then floyd will win them all.
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Post by Rob on Jun 8, 2010 17:58:02 GMT
oscar draw with floyd, watch the match again, i thought it was a draw watched it again and saw oscar throw and hit air and elbows, floyd won clean, he toyed with oscar thats the reality of it, he has good trainers above all else he is a boxer all the way with brains, he adapts quickly and decisevely, firts few rounds maybe manny then floyd will win them all. Perhaps, but Mayweather has never been in with a boxer who can throw at least 800+ punches for 12 rounds. If Mayweather doesn't catch Manny early enough,I think Manny, regardless of air shots or what have you, could actually wear Mayweather down.
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Post by mightyez on Jun 8, 2010 21:01:52 GMT
mate i will keep saying watch mayweather chavez specially last 2 rounds chavex threw punches in bunches all night but really was picked apart all night, yes manny is a better boxer all round but still the template was laid. i truly believe that floyd will just adapt and whilst manny will throw a 100 pr round floyd will throw 20 that will all connect and manny will have 5 connect.
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Post by Rob on Jun 8, 2010 21:11:01 GMT
mate i will keep saying watch mayweather chavez specially last 2 rounds chavex threw punches in bunches all night but really was picked apart all night, yes manny is a better boxer all round but still the template was laid. i truly believe that floyd will just adapt and whilst manny will throw a 100 pr round floyd will throw 20 that will all connect and manny will have 5 connect. Watch what was described as the best round for years between morales and Pacquiao. It was the 1st fight between the two in the triple bill in which Pacquiao lost and it was the best Round 12 ever.
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Post by Coogie on Jul 24, 2010 21:03:47 GMT
I'm going to lean into this argument a bit late. IMO Mayweather beats Pac, after the Hatton fight i was buzzing about Pac but then I seen Mayweather take apart Mosley and Marquez after a near 2 yr lay off, without hardly breaking a sweat. This is more than hard work, but God given ability. Pac will need to come in with some serious tactics if he wants to beat Floyd, he can't go gun hoe, if he does, no matter how many shots pac throws, mayweather will counter counter counter counter until the scorecards become a cricket score in favour of mayweather.
But that Fights on the backnurner for now, it looks as though Pac's next fight is against that Weasel Margarito. Bob Arum is a fucking chump, not only will this be as one sided as the Pac/Cotto fight, its a travesty that Arum is still promoting this cunt after the plaster paris episode, and is willing to put him in a fight (that he will have no chance of winning) against a fighter that he will make Millions of dollars out of
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Post by mightyez on Jul 25, 2010 9:13:41 GMT
Coogiee mate where have u been, without being disrespectful I just think that those that say manny would win ain't really watched Floyd a lot, cos if u do u just see how intelligent the guy is, it's all good and well having all the strength and speed in the world idpf u can't put it all together then u won't go far, perfect example may weather vs mosley the latter beeing stronger and just as quick but man he came up against a brain and got broken bad, same for Judah, he is quicker than Floyd and hits harder but man he don't think, manny is a good robot does as told and he is tough a top boxer with a top coach but in that ring when your there and what the trainer says ain't working in rounds, u gotta think for urself, that's what fLoyd does, he has top trainers and he himself adds to that, I just think this is where he will win this fight.
The fight not happening for me is sad but really life goes on, they should fight each other or call it a day as they will beat their competitors
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Post by Rob on Jul 25, 2010 14:27:56 GMT
Coogiee mate where have u been, without being disrespectful I just think that those that say manny would win ain't really watched Floyd a lot, cos if u do u just see how intelligent the guy is, it's all good and well having all the strength and speed in the world idpf u can't put it all together then u won't go far, perfect example may weather vs mosley the latter beeing stronger and just as quick but man he came up against a brain and got broken bad, same for Judah, he is quicker than Floyd and hits harder but man he don't think, manny is a good robot does as told and he is tough a top boxer with a top coach but in that ring when your there and what the trainer says ain't working in rounds, u gotta think for urself, that's what fLoyd does, he has top trainers and he himself adds to that, I just think this is where he will win this fight. The fight not happening for me is sad but really life goes on, they should fight each other or call it a day as they will beat their competitors Please do not assume that we have never watched Mayweather. I have, and he had an idiot in his corner to map his career. Remember, wasn't it the same FM senior who trained Hatton against the Pacman and was picked apart because he was using Mayweathers tactics? If Hatton had used his original tactics, he might have got further but he was trained by an idiot of the highest order. Whatever people say about Calzaghe having his fights fixed because of his dad, we can say the same about FMJ.
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Post by Coogie on Jul 25, 2010 15:39:22 GMT
Dude chill, don't take it personally. It was just an opinion by Yez. In relation to your post, I don't think you can compare Mayweather and Hatton. These are two fighters in a different league to one another, Mayweather belongs in the Finals of the elites, World Cup, European Cup, Champions League etc, Hatton on the other hand is more a mid table premier league team (Stoke). One fighter can make those tactics work, the other cannot. Mayweather has for his all career mastered the art of fighting using defensive techniques, he's mastered it, the slick counter punching, shoulder roll, quick sharp sweet punching. Hatton on the other hand mastered the brawler technique, Mayweather Snr tried to change that style, which ultimately was ill fated. Hatton just didnt have the tools to change or do the job. Plus alot of things have been said even to this day about that Hatton Pacquiao fight, some people lay the blame at Floyd Snr others at Lee Beard others at Hatton himself. Me, I think it was a combination of poor training and poor mindset by Hatton. I think Mayweather Snr could have been a bit more committed to the cause but at the same time Hatton started fighting like a Novice, you cannot go up against the Number one p4p fighter with your hands waist height, you will get KTFO! And so he did.
But you cannot compare Hatton to Mayweather Jnr, too totally different fighters and mayweather is leagues apart from Hatton
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Post by mightyez on Jul 25, 2010 18:47:25 GMT
Cheers coogie. As my post said "not being disrespectful" and also no assumptions were made the point I was trying to emphasise is how good Floyd is, don't take it to heart, this is all about opinions. Hatton is overhyped best fight was kosta zy, him and Floyd are in different time zones and hatton regardless of who trains him will never get into floods time. In terms of corner Floyd has Roger, all boxers pick fights or have someone picking their fights more especially in this era. I think the saying is you can't teach an old dog new tricks, I guess that was what happened to hatton and Floyd snr
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