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Post by Dan United on Feb 18, 2012 13:00:47 GMT
just saw this on facebook; That still just exemplifies what a magnificent save it was. At the same time, the top one just highlights how bad his gaff was.
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Post by majorred on Feb 19, 2012 17:03:33 GMT
De Gea should be given an extended run of games, mistakes or not. There is 10 experienced internationals in front of him to help atone for any gaffes in the next season or two. If we are persistent with him and get behind him we'll see the best young Keeper in world football in three years time.
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Post by ericactor1 on Feb 19, 2012 18:33:24 GMT
I don't think there was any fans who expected him to be the finished product when arriving at the club.
He was making simple errors which could of been dealt if he had basic goal keeping skills, fans where on his back but it wasn't unwarranted pressure.
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Post by majorred on Feb 19, 2012 20:52:51 GMT
So you are saying he doesn't have basic Goalkeeper skills? The Spanish U21 international that SAF paid just under £20m for? Gimme a break mate. He is a talented, nervous kid who is adapting to another style of football - and style of life.
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Post by jimbonda on Feb 19, 2012 21:25:39 GMT
well ferguson must be the laughing stock of world football. fancy spending 18mil on a keeper without basic goalkeeping skills !
ericactor1 u ought to either take those comments back or confirm that u think ferguson is an absolute mug.
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Post by ericactor1 on Feb 19, 2012 22:09:28 GMT
No but people are criticizing fans for questioning DeGea ability? He continued to make simple mistakes, costing us valuable points and leading to us being knockout of major competitions.
There was so much hype about him coming how he was a top goal keeper it be foolish to think fans wouldn't expect some quality from the lad.
He has improved i'll admit but i'm not going to apologize or say i'm wrong for expect more from an 18+ million goal keeper.
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Post by jimbonda on Feb 19, 2012 22:28:40 GMT
you specifically said he had no basic goalkeeper skills, so either you are out of order or you stand by it, which means you are also effectively saying alex ferguson is a massive mug
which is it mate.
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Post by mltezr on Feb 20, 2012 5:17:49 GMT
i gave DDG stick. i perferred lingegarrd to DDG before he got injured. and im not apologising. the fact was that lindegarrd was more in form and had the results to prove it over DDG. it does not mean that i gave up on DDG or i wanted to see him fail or that i dont think we shouldnt have signed him. it was simply due to the fact that DDG was costing us points. in a way im happy lindegaard got injured as now it means DDG will get a solid run of games and hopefully he proves alot of people wrong. but i am not saying sorry for perferring lindegaard over DDG
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Post by SAF_Legend on Feb 20, 2012 9:40:10 GMT
As per usual, I'll state that I like De Gea, as well as Lindegaard, and I previously stated that De Gea needed more time to build his confidence, physical attributes as well as improving his current goalkeeping skills. But didn't really have a stance (so to speak) on whether he should continue playing. I just felt the hurt in confidence when I see him play, and I actually could empathise with him.
I think perhaps it's slightly unfair to call out on SOME supporters when they voice their displeasure at De Gea when he did indeed make mistakes. I guess this is exactly the same as Carrick, Park, Berbatov, Ronaldo when they weren't doing well. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and perhaps criticism was rightly due as well as their opinions on which player should be played according to their views.
I noticed that Eric also stated that De Gea just needed more time to develop, and that in the meanwhile he should be in the background rather than first team goalkeeping. I don't think he has said that he didn't want De Gea here, neither did he say that De Gea won't be a top class keeper for us, but only that he had high hopes that De Gea would have been better than what he is currently now. In a way, he's owning up to his misjudgment, as well as disappointment that comes with it. So I think some of us need to lay off the siege on him.
My opinion is that I disagree with Eric that De Gea doesn't have basic goalkeeping skills. But I think I'm going ahead and going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you meant to say that De Gea has not reached goalkeeping skills that are required in the EPL. To a certain extent I agree. Firstly, he gets pushed around too easily, hence physically needs to buff up. Secondly, needs more communication and voice. Thirdly, needs to build a wall of confidence (and extra bravery that will come with it). But I reckon all this will definitely come in time.
He's only 19.
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Post by Bestie on Feb 20, 2012 9:40:16 GMT
Likewise. Always had more confidence in Lidegaard and was happier seeing him in our starting line-up. I don't think De Gea is a terrible goalkeeper with no potential, quite the opposite. But I do however think that Lindegaard is more of the finished article at this moment and we need a 'keeper who isn't going to make game-costing mistakes.
So I'm also nae apologising for liking Linders over De Gea. If De Gea can show his class and genuinely get to grips with the British style rather than the ridiculous 'kick it away rather than hands, flap instead of catch' thing, then brilliant.
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Post by mightyez on Feb 20, 2012 10:05:52 GMT
ddg top class shot stopping, and times he has had to make that 1 or 2 saves he has just needs to get stronger, mentally at 19 he is very strong cos some of the stuff that has be wriiten is just ott
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Post by jimbonda on Feb 20, 2012 10:18:39 GMT
I noticed that Eric also stated that De Gea just needed more time to develop, and that in the meanwhile he should be in the background rather than first team goalkeeping. I don't think he has said that he didn't want De Gea here, neither did he say that De Gea won't be a top class keeper for us, but only that he had high hopes that De Gea would have been better than what he is currently now. In a way, he's owning up to his misjudgment, as well as disappointment that comes with it. So I think some of us need to lay off the siege on him. it's not a siege on him, i just picked up on a daft comment he made.
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Post by Bestie on Feb 20, 2012 10:52:50 GMT
Is Dave not 20, as a minor curiosity?
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Post by jimbonda on Feb 20, 2012 12:04:15 GMT
i thought he'd recently turned 21
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Post by SAF_Legend on Feb 20, 2012 12:09:06 GMT
Wikiepedia says 21. Sorry! My bad. Still young though.
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