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Post by newtonheathen on Sept 18, 2012 13:07:01 GMT
. Lindegaard is older, more experienced and has the more commanding presence in the area that, for me, makes him our best option at this time. Oh the irony when De Gea has made more appearances in his career than Lindegaard |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2012 13:12:17 GMT
I actually feel a little bad for linderguardian, I bet he was thinking he'd be number one when VDS left but now he's still 2nd fiddle to De God.
I'm also not saying that linderguard isnt a good keeper in his own right, just that ddg is better
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Post by ginger18legend on Sept 18, 2012 13:37:27 GMT
Yeah, I feel bad for Lindy too. Thought he was quite decent against Wigan. Caught crosses that most others would have palmed away. He hasn't done much wrong at all and though I think De Gea is better than him in most departments, he also makes more mistakes. DDG will turn out to be a world class keeper, and if we don't keep him happy I can see Barcelona putting in a sneaky bid. Quite a conundrum this keeper situation is. I can't make my mind up about who should get the nod at the moment. Good thing we have the best manager of all time to help us out with that.
Quick stat - Anders hasn't conceded a single goal at OT.
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Post by mocthezuma on Sept 18, 2012 14:11:29 GMT
. Lindegaard is older, more experienced and has the more commanding presence in the area that, for me, makes him our best option at this time. Oh the irony when De Gea has made more appearances in his career than Lindegaard Only if you include his appearances for Atletico B. Otherwise Lindegaard has played more, and trained more, and been around football for a longer period. Also Lindegaard has more caps for Denmark than De Gea has for Spain, not including U-13 appearances. |
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Post by ginger18legend on Sept 18, 2012 14:14:27 GMT
Sir Alex Ferguson has explained his reasoning behind handing starts to both David De Gea and Anders Lindegaard already this season.
The boss rotated his keepers last term before injury kept Lindegaard out of action and recalled the Dane for the recent wins against Southampton and Wigan.
After admitting there is a "strong possibility" that De Gea could come back for the visit of Galatasaray in the Champions League on Wednesday, the manager clarified the situation regarding the goalkeeping position.
"The most important thing I'm trying to do is give both of them experience in the English game," he declared at a press conference at Old Trafford. "Neither is as experienced as Edwin van der Sar or Peter Schmeichel.
"Alternating isn't a problem for me. They're both equally very good goalkeepers. That's the policy we've adopted this season and last season, although De Gea played most of last season after Lindegaard was injured. I'm comfortable with this situation."
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Post by karthy on Sept 18, 2012 14:54:01 GMT
I am somehow not entirely sold on the idea that you can keep rotating your keeper. If DDG is our future and all that , then he needs to play more, also his command of the box and the defenders is still Glass half full and the only way he can get it is if he plays more games and is allowed to form a partnership with the CB's. I know that Anders is good and doesn't deserve to be 2nd fiddle to DDG , but i prefer DDG over Anders.
That said, Fergie will probably rotate them every 2 games.....
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Post by Dan United on Sept 18, 2012 16:32:18 GMT
I also hate goalkeepers being rotated - reminds me of Carroll and Howard.
This is a safe place right? Can I make a confession?
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I don't know why, but.....
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I don't like Lindegaard. By that I don't mean I think he's shit. I think he's a good keeper. I just don't like him. I guess that has something to do with my desperation for De Gea to succeed. The more time Lindegaard gets, the less De Gea gets. But I think it goes back before we even bought De Gea. I really dislike Lindegaard.
Has anyone else ever had this unexplained dislike of a United player?
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Post by newtonheathen on Sept 18, 2012 16:33:26 GMT
Oh the irony when De Gea has made more appearances in his career than Lindegaard Only if you include his appearances for Atletico B. Otherwise Lindegaard has played more, and trained more, and been around football for a longer period. Also Lindegaard has more caps for Denmark than De Gea has for Spain, not including U-13 appearances. Thats just stupid - discounting certain aspects like De Gea's time at Madrid just to counter the fact that De Gea has made more CAREER performances than Lindegaard. Lindegaard hardly has much competition for Denmarks #1 spot, whereas De Gea has Casillas and co. We should not include those figures too so  EDIT: Just re-read your post - I wasnt including Atletico B at all - i was talking first team - and De Gea has made 122 appearances for the Madrid and United first teams. Lindegaard has only made 86 in his career - 98 if you include Denmark. 122 > 98 still. |
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Post by ginger18legend on Sept 18, 2012 16:36:27 GMT
Has anyone else ever had this unexplained dislike of a United player? Not me. And I thought Lindegaard is one of the most likable players in our squad. His attitude has been exceptional since he joined. Always saying the right things. Not directly contributed to us dropping any points either. |
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Post by jimbonda on Sept 18, 2012 16:40:08 GMT
Has anyone else ever had this unexplained dislike of a United player? ash young for a good while after we bought him. [poss cos he looks like that cunt marlo from the Wire  ] didn't help that i wasn't sure if he was good enough. now i don't dislike him anymore, although he still blows hot and cold in terms of performances. also, nick powell. he looks like a real smug arrogant prick. but that might help him on the pitch, i think he's gonna be a good player, i said after we bought him that if he scores goals for us like he did for crewe he'd leapfrog cleverley straight into our first team. |
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Post by Dan United on Sept 18, 2012 16:41:35 GMT
I know. That's why it is unexplained. As far as I can tell he's done nothing to merit it, but I just dislike him.
Edit: This was in response to Ginge
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Post by Bestie on Sept 19, 2012 9:09:54 GMT
Well, jim has a secret (OBVIOUS) dislike for Tom Cleverley for no reason at all.
I have a sort of dislike for Hernandez. He's just so damned, offside, all the time. But it's not completely irrational, so I don't know if it counts.
Also, seeing as we're making confessions about goalkeepers. David De Gea. I just don't trust him. He'll make ridic-legend saves, but I don't feel it when he's between the sticks. There's no 'You shall not pass' about him.
YET.
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Post by RedDevil'sAdvocate on Sept 19, 2012 9:41:55 GMT
I don't like this rotation thing. Lindegaard is a solid keeper and he would be first choice in a lot of PL clubs but De Gea will be world class and the best keeper around in a year or two IMO, when he learns how to command the box. He should be starting every game, it's the fastest way he'll improve into a player we expect him to be. I have a bad feeling De Gea might go Barca soon if he isn't our permanent no.1!
On the subject of disliking our players I must confess I really don't like Young. I don't rate him and he hasn't really justified his price. I also dislike Valencia's left leg - if the fucker learned how to use it more often he would be absolutely deadly as he comes off as predictable sometimes.
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Post by Stew on Sept 19, 2012 10:54:49 GMT
We were talking about this in work yesterday and all the Utd fans I spoke to hate this situation. Can't see anything good coming from it really. I want a settled back 4 and a first choice keeper and rotate the rest if needs be. There is a reason why no other major club in Europe does this. Name any top side and you will all be able to name the first choice keeper. This isn't ground-breaking from Utd, it's muddling for the sake of it. The way I see it, unless one of them either becomes first choice is or is annointed first choice then you have a keeper controversy on the way. Which is completely of our own making. As we all know from watching football, trouble comes your way eventually. I cannot see the thinking behind actively seeking the bloody thing.
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Post by Rene Meulensteen on Sept 19, 2012 11:47:53 GMT
It's difficult, DDG had a blistering start to the season and was dropped for 1 mistake? I do believe Lindegaard is a quality GK though and I'm never nervous when he's between the sticks the way I was when PIG was around and Foster. It's a nice problem to have obviously but as others have said the longer this uncertainty goes on the more likely it is it's going to effect one or the other negatively.
As for dislikes of players I have a serious gripe with Anderson and his puppydog upset face when he fucks up.
Also, anyone see the lengthy hug Powell gives RVP after his goal? Secret man cruch there me thinks!!
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