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Post by SAF_Legend on Oct 20, 2012 4:10:41 GMT
There was a rumour that Butland might be available for pickings due to Birmingham's monetary plight.
He's only 19, but I think it might be an astute plan for us to sign him and loan him out for a couple of years for experience. During which, Lindegaard would have moved on and Butland can be our reserve goalie. If De Gea gets cold feet / can't adapt and chooses to return to Spain, we will have a potential good backup at the reigns.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2012 10:10:51 GMT
Or, we keep Lindegaard and play the goalkeeper who can actually catch a football until the one who can't, can.
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Post by SAF_Legend on Oct 20, 2012 10:23:39 GMT
^ No harm in buying a young, 3rd backup goalkeeper who seems to have potential - who won't interfere with De Gea or Lindegaard's progress. I liked what I saw in Butland during the Olympics.
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 20, 2012 11:30:31 GMT
Or, we keep Lindegaard and play the goalkeeper who can actually catch a football until the one who can't, can. hows he gonna learn how to catch a ball if he doesn't play. just play de Gea. be patient and he'll start sussing out what's what. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 11:55:22 GMT
We have two very promising keepers in Johnston and Gollina, Amos isnt too bad either.Out of the 3 I think Sam Johnston is the best prospect.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2012 21:39:14 GMT
Or, we keep Lindegaard and play the goalkeeper who can actually catch a football until the one who can't, can. hows he gonna learn how to catch a ball if he doesn't play. just play de Gea. be patient and he'll start sussing out what's what. He can learn in training. That's what training is for. I hear he did okay today when we were looking ropey though. EDIT: He was a MAJOR fault for the o.g. (Since when did Own Goal play for Stoke by the way?! He was at Bayern the last I checked.) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2012 22:40:11 GMT
He pulled off a cracking reaction save at the start to stop the all going across the line and 1 or 2 very good saves and was very unlucky with the 2nd stoke goal almost pulled off what would have been a shit hot save.
What annoys me is he goes this week in week out but 1 mistake outweighs all that which is quite a shame. Think some people are too critical, we all know he has w weakness but fuck me do we have to ridicule him constantly over it, considering he doesn't so it every game.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Oct 21, 2012 5:25:45 GMT
How people are pinning the OG on DdG is beyond me. I'm assuming you expected him to come and punch that away? That's like claiming Begovic should've dealt with RvP's cross that Rooney headed in. Unrealistic.
Why not blame the person who scored the OG or the person who gave away the stupid free kick in the first place or the person who decided Rooney should mark Shawcross or Nani for being inconsistent??? The blinded scapegoating on here is getting a tad ridiculous of late don't you think?
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Post by Stew on Oct 21, 2012 9:12:21 GMT
"How people are pinning the OG on DdG is beyond me. I'm assuming you expected him to come and punch that away? That's like claiming Begovic should've dealt with RvP's cross that Rooney headed in. Unrealistic.
Why not blame the person who scored the OG or the person who gave away the stupid free kick in the first place or the person who decided Rooney should mark Shawcross or Nani for being inconsistent??? The blinded scapegoating on here is getting a tad ridiculous of late don't you think?"
Utterly this. Then the mean-spirited, mealy mouthed half compliment for the player if they happen to produce quality in a game. It's getting to the stage where I think some of our fans are almost willing certain players to fail in games. Oh, it'll be vehemently denied of course but you know what I mean.
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 21, 2012 9:23:49 GMT
hows he gonna learn how to catch a ball if he doesn't play. just play de Gea. be patient and he'll start sussing out what's what. He can learn in training. That's what training is for. i'm sure he is, but it's not the same is it. when lindegaard was out for six weeks we all said this will be interesting. well de Gea responded didn't he. he should be playing week in week out, giving lindegaard a game to keep him sweet doesn't have enough upside IMO. |
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 21, 2012 9:32:14 GMT
"How people are pinning the OG on DdG is beyond me. I'm assuming you expected him to come and punch that away? That's like claiming Begovic should've dealt with RvP's cross that Rooney headed in. Unrealistic. Why not blame the person who scored the OG or the person who gave away the stupid free kick in the first place or the person who decided Rooney should mark Shawcross or Nani for being inconsistent??? The blinded scapegoating on here is getting a tad ridiculous of late don't you think?" Utterly this. Then the mean-spirited, mealy mouthed half compliment for the player if they happen to produce quality in a game. It's getting to the stage where I think some of our fans are almost willing certain players to fail in games. Oh, it'll be vehemently denied of course but you know what I mean. WK / stew i agree boys. [ i'm sure some people will accuse me of wanting cleverley and rafael to fail to prove i was right in my doubts about them but i have said over and over that i would love to be proved wrong and since both players are improving i'm looking forward to the day ] too much moaning and cynicism round here. it's been like borderline trolling in the matchday threads at times. people seem to forget what the word supporter means. we have a right to criticise but when it's our own lets not forget a bit of respect in the process |
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Post by fletchabey on Oct 21, 2012 9:50:38 GMT
I certainly wouldn't accuse you of wanting them to fail, that just illogical from any true supporter. On Rafael I could say you simply wrong to start with though, the lads talented but there's frequently been the injuries. This season with no Smalling or Jones he's had consistent starts and stayed fit and has been delivering solidly and consistently. He's already proved you wrong in that we didn't needed to spend money on a RB, which was where our initial disagreement stemmed from. On De Gea, there doesnt seem to be to many against him. Maybe just Bestie who likes to get his bit between his teeth about a player, Gibson, Giggs, Berba, Nani... maybe De Gea now?  |
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Post by tommyred on Oct 21, 2012 9:53:44 GMT
De Gea was very impressive when he got a run in the side back end of last season. I'm not sure why Ferguson has gone back to chopping and changing. It doesn't help anybody.
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 21, 2012 10:02:09 GMT
I certainly wouldn't accuse you of wanting them to fail, that just illogical from any true supporter. On Rafael I could say you simply wrong to start with though, the lads talented but there's frequently been the injuries. This season with no Smalling or Jones he's had consistent starts and stayed fit and has been delivering solidly and consistently. He's already proved you wrong in that we didn't needed to spend money on a RB, which was where our initial disagreement stemmed from. point taken. i still feel he's got big work to do on his defensive game. we aren't barcelona or brazil, we need defenders who can defend. |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 21, 2012 12:13:38 GMT
How people are pinning the OG on DdG is beyond me. I'm assuming you expected him to come and punch that away? That's like claiming Begovic should've dealt with RvP's cross that Rooney headed in. Unrealistic. Why not blame the person who scored the OG or the person who gave away the stupid free kick in the first place or the person who decided Rooney should mark Shawcross or Nani for being inconsistent??? The blinded scapegoating on here is getting a tad ridiculous of late don't you think? Watching the MotD highlights, it looked to be at a decent height (around head height), not going too fast, and not that far from the goal-line. Maybe I've gotten it wrong, but I thought the 'keeper could at least have been coming for it. It didn't seem to be whipping across and away from him like Van Persie's cross, for example. @ stew - Noticing the mistakes rather than willing people to fail is more accurate, I think. I'm guilty of it, it always sticks out to me when De Gea flaps horribly (as an example), but then take it as pretty routine when he makes a good save. Doesn't mean I'm scapegoating though, I just have unrealistic standards. There were plenty of others who made errors yesterday as well. (Stoke's second was a horror show.) |
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