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Post by jimbonda on Oct 24, 2012 11:15:26 GMT
valdes was the perfect keeper for barca for a good while as it goes. i havent watched as much of them this season or last so i'm not sure what's what now, but previously at least he fit right into the system where they'd defend high and if valdes was caught one on one then he'd usually sort it out. very strong one on one keeper
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 11:27:28 GMT
yeah, he's a strong one on one keeper as he's usually shining players in the face
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Post by Stew on Oct 24, 2012 12:21:04 GMT
Never rated Valdes. Always felt he was average and would be found out in a lesser side. Know a few Barca fans from Spain and they all felt the same way. De Gea would be astonishing for them though and that's what worries me.
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Post by Tatty on Oct 24, 2012 22:24:45 GMT
What a fucking depressing thought. A keeper with as many good attributes as you can get at such a young age. An area to work with (his command of the six yard box) and he's subjected to rotation. A better keeper than the Dane - and there are fucking loads of them - would've had the agility to save Gerrard's effort and Bale's too IMO. A keeper like De Gea.... Bit harsh Not really, this is bob on. I'm not convinced by Lindegaard, haven't been since the 'mare at Newcastle last season. |
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Post by karthy on Oct 25, 2012 19:22:21 GMT
Surprised that its not mentioned the Casillas in yesterday's match in trying to defend the second goal was actually punching the ball rather than catching it which led to the goal. Did it a few times before also but this one lead to a goal hence my attention
we criticize De Gea for doing the same and he is what 21 , Casillas is 31 and he does it, seen Valdes and Reina do it a lot of time yet why is it always that DDG gets so much bad mouthed about.
Compared to all the gk's he is very much young and still adapting yet we harp so much on is apparent inability to deal with crosses than his reflexes or his distribution. I still say that he was not responsible for the OG Vs Stoke. can't really fathom the criticism towards DDG
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Post by jimbonda on Oct 25, 2012 21:18:58 GMT
Not really, this is bob on. I'm not convinced by Lindegaard, haven't been since the 'mare at Newcastle last season. i'm not convinced he's even that much better at the stuff de Gea is struggling with. de Gea is the better keeper and the future between the sticks. play him now, don't undermine his confidence, let him learn the game. |
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Post by shrike59 on Oct 26, 2012 2:11:01 GMT
De Gea should play the chelsea game..
Lindegaard better shut them out.
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Post by karthy on Oct 26, 2012 6:10:12 GMT
De Gea will play as Linders is out with Injury
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Post by sleel6 on Oct 26, 2012 8:33:08 GMT
I am starting to prefer Lindegaard. I'm not too sure De Gea will ever be able to get himself together when it comes to collecting crosses and commanding his box.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 8:35:35 GMT
Linderguardian has a hand injury so he's out
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Post by Stew on Oct 26, 2012 9:31:45 GMT
"I am starting to prefer Lindegaard. I'm not too sure De Gea will ever be able to get himself together when it comes to collecting crosses and commanding his box.'
He's 21.
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Post by fletchabey on Oct 26, 2012 9:34:52 GMT
Absolutely, it was driven in just over the heads of those at the front post, no way De Gea could come out for it, only person we should be blaming is Scholesy for this daft challenge that gave them the freekick in the first place. Have to disagree with both of you (re: dealing with cross). I keep in the Uni team and it's my job to read and punch those balls out when I can (and fail miserably when I don't, which is my fault - but there's always a risk of course). Like you said, "window of uncertainty" - the uncertainty comes from the players / goalkeepers. Again, in no way am I criticising De Gea. It took me YEARS to learn to judge the flight of corners (and I'm still edgy about it). In a way, I know how De Gea is feeling as I had the same problems as he had with confidence and corners especially around new lads... but of course, the gulf between the EPL and Uni varsity games / amateur games are extremely huge by comparison, so imagine the difficulty x32151263. Seriously though, corners are a bitch to keep personally - especially with these kind of driven crosses. It's difficult, but not impossible. But yes, Scholes' challenge was rash. In this case it wasn't a corner though, a couple of yards up the touchline and several yards in. As it was driven its not going to be at an angle like a corner and the reaction time was a far smaller window, just ask Rooney. Stupid place to give away a freekick. |
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Post by SAF_Legend on Oct 26, 2012 16:06:48 GMT
Have to disagree with both of you (re: dealing with cross). I keep in the Uni team and it's my job to read and punch those balls out when I can (and fail miserably when I don't, which is my fault - but there's always a risk of course). Like you said, "window of uncertainty" - the uncertainty comes from the players / goalkeepers. Again, in no way am I criticising De Gea. It took me YEARS to learn to judge the flight of corners (and I'm still edgy about it). In a way, I know how De Gea is feeling as I had the same problems as he had with confidence and corners especially around new lads... but of course, the gulf between the EPL and Uni varsity games / amateur games are extremely huge by comparison, so imagine the difficulty x32151263. Seriously though, corners are a bitch to keep personally - especially with these kind of driven crosses. It's difficult, but not impossible. But yes, Scholes' challenge was rash. In this case it wasn't a corner though, a couple of yards up the touchline and several yards in. As it was driven its not going to be at an angle like a corner and the reaction time was a far smaller window, just ask Rooney. Stupid place to give away a freekick. What I meant was personally I find crosses from corners a hassle to deal with... which De Gea would probably feel that way too - given that that is his most talked about weakness. Saying this doesn't mean all keepers feel this way. My mate excels at dealing with crosses, he just punches the living daylight out of anyone in his path... once concussing one of our own. Thankfully the guy turned out alright. Driven crosses (corner or not) are even more difficult to detect. But yea, I agree with you in that aspect that it would definitely be more difficult to judge and intercept. Although personally I would have tried, but of course, I'm not in a high-pressure job and I'm not worth millions of £££ so it's easier said than done for my situations. |
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Post by karthy on Oct 26, 2012 16:19:20 GMT
I am starting to prefer Lindegaard. I'm not too sure De Gea will ever be able to get himself together when it comes to collecting crosses and commanding his box. seriously ... he is 21, plays for the Biggest Club in England. Has been under the Microscope from the time he has pulled on our Jersey. Is still learning the Language. Considered to be the Next Spanish No.1 by the Nation and current No.1. His playing in a league that is far different to theone from where he came. Hasn't actually played for no more than 18 Months - and not in every game mind you. We seem to be getting to rich on Criticism of our own players here more often. Yes he needs to address the area , but my god we had Barthez doing comical errors at a much older age and he was playing for France too and still made some very "facepalm" errors. Give the guy some time will you. I am not against you just that you comments are almost the same as most here. you have older GK's like Casillas , Reina , Hart , Friedel making mistakes , his gets highlighted cos Ferhie's "Mistakes" make for a better Headlines. TO me he is far better a Goalie and will be the Best , defo needs time Remember even Vida and Paddy needed settling time , but DDG's mistake will mostly end up in goal and hence the magnification but that's why you have experienced CB's to handle and organise the defense in the Box. Tell me a GK with better reflexes |
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Post by sleel6 on Oct 27, 2012 0:42:50 GMT
"I am starting to prefer Lindegaard. I'm not too sure De Gea will ever be able to get himself together when it comes to collecting crosses and commanding his box.' He's 21. What has that got to do with him coming to catch crosses? |
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