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Post by Bestie on Apr 28, 2014 12:10:25 GMT
Haway mate. You're joking. De Gea hasn't actually been left out, seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 12:13:17 GMT
Is it? Who is the keeper then? Cech. Most clean sheets this season, so hard to argue. But I will, because De Gea has been immense this season. Really stepped up from promising 'kid' to superb goalkeeper. There's a great image somewhere which Bestie i think posted which shows De Gea has the best stats in every department except clean sheets. |
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Post by Bestie on Apr 28, 2014 12:33:28 GMT
Page before this one bud.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 12:53:21 GMT
Unfortunately, clean sheets is the go to stat when standing in judgement of them. Much like the striker who continually gets man of the match ,having done nothing except put the ball in the net. Yes it's a crucial stat but not the be all and end all.
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Post by NR7 on Apr 28, 2014 13:03:13 GMT
Clean sheets is a piss poor yardstick to judge a keeper. That's a collective and not individual attribute. Goalie's stats as in the page before is the right way to determine who has been the best, surely?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 13:09:20 GMT
Clean sheets is a piss poor yardstick to judge a keeper. That's a collective and not individual attribute. Goalie's stats as in the page before is the right way to determine who has been the best, surely? Absolutely it is, but it seems these people are blind to it. The average footy fan seems to want everything as simplified as possible, hence ignoring every other stat bar that one. Ditto the striker stats as I mentioned. You've only got to look at the player ratings in the tabloids every Sunday, to see how people can fundamentally misjudge a player. |
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Post by sharsh_U4L on Apr 29, 2014 7:28:30 GMT
Is it? Who is the keeper then? Cech. Most clean sheets this season, so hard to argue. But I will, because De Gea has been immense this season. Really stepped up from promising 'kid' to superb goalkeeper. De Gea has been immense. Clean sheets is an indicator of defence and GK together. Agree that it is one of the yardsticks but not the most important one. IMO If there is any indicator that should have the maximum weightage, it should be Shots saved. |
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Post by Tatty on Apr 29, 2014 7:53:34 GMT
Cech. Most clean sheets this season, so hard to argue. But I will, because De Gea has been immense this season. Really stepped up from promising 'kid' to superb goalkeeper. De Gea has been immense. Clean sheets is an indicator of defence and GK together. Agree that it is one of the yardsticks but not the most important one. IMO If there is any indicator that should have the maximum weightage, it should be Shots saved. Then David Marshall of Cardiff would be the Keeper in team of the year. |
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Post by mocthezuma on Apr 29, 2014 9:23:34 GMT
Both Marshall and Speroni have been better than Cech this season.
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Post by Stew on Apr 29, 2014 9:37:36 GMT
Is it? Who is the keeper then? Cech. Most clean sheets this season, so hard to argue. But I will, because De Gea has been immense this season. Really stepped up from promising 'kid' to superb goalkeeper. Cech makes a ton of mistakes whenever I watch him. De Gea has been immense behind a 100 different back fours this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 9:52:11 GMT
DDG is two attributes away from being a complete 'keeper, he's that close already. I just worry it won't come, and in the meantime we will suffer for his learning curve. Well. I was wrong.  Here it is. Only one page back. |
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Post by Bestie on Apr 29, 2014 9:59:10 GMT
Page before this one bud. Is what I say?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 10:16:44 GMT
Page before this one bud. Is what I say? Oh I missed that. |
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Post by Bestie on Apr 29, 2014 10:19:07 GMT
You derserve more credit for actually bothering to get it and show it in fairness.
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Post by unitedsotex on Apr 29, 2014 17:24:57 GMT
De Gea has grown into what we thought he was going to be when we bought him. Yes his first year was shaky and he showed promise, but just look at the way he plays now. Some of his saves just blown my mind... the double kick save for example! If he stay here for a very long time, I see him up there with Schmeichel and VDS. He isn't has commanding as there were, but hell of ability to keep us in the game on a bad defense day...
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