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Post by ericactor1 on Dec 31, 2011 15:56:37 GMT
@ giner18
What do you mean mate?
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Dec 31, 2011 15:59:01 GMT
He was poor on the second goal, slow off his line and yet again the ball is slid through his legs. Prior to the third goal he miss timed his jump and Blackburn nearly scored, then came the third goal he missed timed his jump again. Come SET i'm always up for defending our lads and looking for positives but with this guy it's hard. Every TV pundit in the country has expressed their concerns with his start as a United goal keeper, right know he looks nothing like it. He cost us the match in Basel and today he cost us a point at least. Ah yes - Basle's opening goal. So the right back who failed to block, the 2 defenders in the centre who failed to get a touch and the 2 other free players in the box who failed to pick up the unmarked player are off scot free is it? All De Geas fault for a very low daisy-cutter? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 16:00:39 GMT
I must admit ill still have faith in De Gea, Hes young, he has a lot to adapt to with the english game, and hes only had 3 months to get used to it so far, Ill be honest I do shit it sometimes when crosses go in because I know hes not physically strong enough to catch it. BUT no player has ever walked into a side without making a mistake along the way, Hes 20 years old. I agree for now Lindegaard should be first start FOR NOW simply becuase hes earned it. But over time De Gea will improve im sure of it. He was at fault for the 3rd goal I agree but there was 6 united players around the ball and yet did nothing so they have to take some of the blame. Personally think hes gettin way too much critisism but sometimes that can be a good thing, can spur you on to be a better player. Its clear to see there is potential there, hes got great agility and reflexes, He just needs to learn to take command of his area "in english", bulk up a bit instead of playing the spanish poncey way of falling to the floor and expecting the ref to back you all the time coz it wont happen, and learn to control the ball better in the air. If he can master those 3 things I can see him being one of the best keepers in the world. Time will tell i suppose.
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Post by Dan United on Dec 31, 2011 16:02:11 GMT
We did defend poorly Carrick was unlucky with the tackle and Jones was skint but if that was VDS or any other decent keeper they'd be off their line. How is it that every player that goes through one on one with De Gea slides it under his legs? If I could be bothered I could find a load of videos where VDS did the same thing. Instead, I'll just choose two soft goals he conceded in the CL finals against barca But of course, goalkeepers cannot make mistakes when they haven't had a chance to establish themselves. No, no. But they're allowed to make mistakes when they've already established themselves. It's weird that the more experience you have, the more mistakes you're permitted. |
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Post by ginger18legend on Dec 31, 2011 16:03:34 GMT
@ giner18 What do you mean mate? This Just to lighten the mood a bit |
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Post by Dan United on Dec 31, 2011 16:12:26 GMT
I just find it a bit strange that people are willing to write off De Gea and not give him time to develop, yet they'll happily beg for Pogba to be given a chance. IS the difference the fact that De Gea has had his chance? Is 6 months in a new country and a new club the cut off line?
No wonder Fergie isn't willing to risk them, with such impatient fans judging every action of these youngsters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 16:15:34 GMT
I just find it a bit strange that people are willing to write off De Gea and not give him time to develop, yet they'll happily beg for Pogba to be given a chance. IS the difference the fact that De Gea has had his chance? Is 6 months in a new country and a new club the cut off line? No wonder Fergie isn't willing to risk them, with such impatient fans judging every action of these youngsters. Give Pogba 3 games and if he doesnt play tht well hell get the same treatment you watch. Give them time, The likes of Gibson and Macheda have been given more chances than most and they dont get the shit De Gea is starting to get. |
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Post by - on Dec 31, 2011 16:20:38 GMT
De Gea could be doing with a couple of months in the gym lifting weights because is so weak its actually a joke how weak and scared he is.
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Post by Dan United on Dec 31, 2011 16:22:02 GMT
I know, it's over the top. You have to ask yourself why Fergie, despite having six months and however long before that in scout reports, to judge Lindegaard, he still thought he needed to spend big money on De Gea, particularly as he knows that the money could be used in midfield.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 31, 2011 17:31:23 GMT
I know, it's over the top. You have to ask yourself why Fergie, despite having six months and however long before that in scout reports, to judge Lindegaard, he still thought he needed to spend big money on De Gea, particularly as he knows that the money could be used in midfield. De Gea was obviously not the number 1 target when we went in for a new keeper, we all know he had a real interest in Neur but obvious reasons did that one in but he is undoubtedly a good goalkeeper. Im not surprised hes making mistakes in the early part of his career, the same was an issue when pepe reina joined liverpool, we got goals in his early days when he came for balls and was clinching to thin air but he is now considered one of the best in this league. He can't complain about not hearing a call with the total lack of atmosphere in the ground ;D |
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Post by Dan United on Dec 31, 2011 17:32:44 GMT
And I miss his "beard"
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Post by NR7 on Dec 31, 2011 17:48:15 GMT
It's a Spanish GK thing. Goalies over there are a lot more protected by the refs than in the Prem league. Also, not many teams rely possess any significant aerial threat. Exactly reason why Reina struggled with crosses during his early days in the PL, n DDG likely will do so. DDG has a tendency to punch balls he should be catching. In a couple of yrs time, he will be ace.
For all of us lot saying, it's all about now thank fuck we are not the managers !! If SAF had adopted a similar attitude....... Part of building a squad for the future involves long term vision and planning. SAF is the master, knows exactly what he is doing.
I agree that Lindegaard is better than a No 2 and I expect a fair amount of rotation between the two while DDG continues his development. Should DDG fulfill his immense potential, we would have a world class GK with all his best years ahead of him. Even if Lin moves on, am sure we can find an adequate back up. On the other hand, if DDG does not work out, Lindegaard can be our No 1 with a player at his peak. I don't see a problem ;D ;D
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Post by moscow3 on Dec 31, 2011 18:38:41 GMT
I stand by the comments I made during the week. De Gea is obviously going to be our long term Number 1. or so the plan would suggest. But I cannot see the logic in not playing Lindegaard. World Class players are kept out of the team at all the big clubs when their form dips and an able replacement performs to a high standard. That's football, I have no doubt De Gea will improve for this experience. But what people here seem to be overlooking, is how Lindegaard must feel. The man hasnt conceded a league goal all season and can't get a regular first team berth. How long will it be before he gets miffed at such treatment?
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Post by ericactor1 on Dec 31, 2011 20:22:46 GMT
This situation would be different if we didn't have a number two capable of doing a good job in net. We do have one and we should use him, I find myself very confident when Linders is in the net. I can't say the same for De Gea.
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Post by jimbonda on Jan 1, 2012 15:54:23 GMT
i can't believe how some people on here have written De Gea off, they talk as if he is this absolute shitter who can't do anything.
let's all just ignore the top class shot stopping, the quality of his kicking and focus on the negatives in areas that a goalkeeper can't really get to grips with without time and experience.
can't we just accept that this future gem of a keeper has X amount of mistakes in him while he's on the fast-track? Ferguson has, he didn't buy him expecting him to be flawless from the off. and if some people really think that he'll never be a good keeper that's pretty short-sighted, i'd love you to show me a goalkeeper that was a boss at 20 years old.
overall i'd say De Gea deserves a lot of credit for how he's getting on - from what i've read on here i don't think many people really understand the magnitude of the task on his hands. replacing the worlds best keeper at a club the size of Manchester United, at the age of 20 years old with only a season of experience in another league before he's even finished growing or learning the language is mind boggling. let's throw one around his shoulders instead of the hard approach.
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