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Post by thechemist on Jun 2, 2015 18:01:21 GMT
When did we start refering to our players as cunts? If he is such a pivotal player for the club, i would be more inclined to ask how and why we let him get to the last year of his contract without looking to get it renewed. This should have been done two years ago so, if he stalled all year, we still have two years to negotiate with. The only people to blame for him possibly leaving on a shoe string is senior cluib management. Totally disagree with this. You can be at the club and be positive and on the surface things look good. But you know deep down its a stepping stone and you took the opportunity to advance your career. Don't forget... It's a job. We've all taken positions knowing you wont finish your career there. We have given him all the opportunities to succeed, win trophies, be paid. He wants to be in Spain. What was he supposed to say when he got signed? I'm happy to be at MU I think this is an excellent opportunity to increase the odds of playing for Barca or Real in the future. Bottom line, the club have let it get to the stage where he has only 1 year left on a contract and is stalling on a new one. Whether he has ambitions to return to Spain or not is irrelevant to the fee we can generate - that is primarily influenced by the length left on his contract and that falls solely at the feet of club managment, presumably, The Board. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jun 2, 2015 18:03:50 GMT
Totally disagree with this. You can be at the club and be positive and on the surface things look good. But you know deep down its a stepping stone and you took the opportunity to advance your career. Don't forget... It's a job. We've all taken positions knowing you wont finish your career there. We have given him all the opportunities to succeed, win trophies, be paid. He wants to be in Spain. What was he supposed to say when he got signed? I'm happy to be at MU I think this is an excellent opportunity to increase the odds of playing for Barca or Real in the future. Bottom line, the club have let it get to the stage where he has only 1 year left on a contract and is stalling on a new one. Whether he has ambitions to return to Spain or not is irrelevant to the fee we can generate - that is primarily influenced by the length left on his contract and that falls solely at the feet of club managment, presumably, The Board. . It's ddg fault there is only 1 year left on his contract as he didn't sign when we started negotions last year, most new contracts do start in the finaly 2 years and most players at 1 of the top clubs in the world would have signed streight away, it's ddg who's stalled and made this situation we are seeing now |
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Post by Kamilo on Jun 2, 2015 18:04:18 GMT
Totally disagree with this. You can be at the club and be positive and on the surface things look good. But you know deep down its a stepping stone and you took the opportunity to advance your career. Don't forget... It's a job. We've all taken positions knowing you wont finish your career there. We have given him all the opportunities to succeed, win trophies, be paid. He wants to be in Spain. What was he supposed to say when he got signed? I'm happy to be at MU I think this is an excellent opportunity to increase the odds of playing for Barca or Real in the future. Bottom line, the club have let it get to the stage where he has only 1 year left on a contract and is stalling on a new one. Whether he has ambitions to return to Spain or not is irrelevant to the fee we can generate - that is primarily influenced by the length left on his contract and that falls solely at the feet of club managment, presumably, The Board. HE didn't sign, the club sought to renew last term. They were hoping for him to sign were they supposed to just sell him on the chance he wouldn't. It's a bunch of what ifs but ultimately David De Gea wants to leave the club. |
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Post by thechemist on Jun 2, 2015 18:15:36 GMT
Bottom line, the club have let it get to the stage where he has only 1 year left on a contract and is stalling on a new one. Whether he has ambitions to return to Spain or not is irrelevant to the fee we can generate - that is primarily influenced by the length left on his contract and that falls solely at the feet of club managment, presumably, The Board. . It's ddg fault there is only 1 year left on his contract as he didn't sign when we started negotions last year, most new contracts do start in the finaly 2 years and most players at 1 of the top clubs in the world would have signed streight away, it's ddg who's stalled and made this situation we are seeing now For a pivotal player? Top 3 in the world? Second highest fee for a keeper when he signed, I think? Basic risk management says, if a player is that critical, you do not abide by 'normal' contract negotiations else you run the risk of losing him for a pittance. |
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Post by thechemist on Jun 2, 2015 18:16:59 GMT
Bottom line, the club have let it get to the stage where he has only 1 year left on a contract and is stalling on a new one. Whether he has ambitions to return to Spain or not is irrelevant to the fee we can generate - that is primarily influenced by the length left on his contract and that falls solely at the feet of club managment, presumably, The Board. HE didn't sign, the club sought to renew last term. They were hoping for him to sign were they supposed to just sell him on the chance he wouldn't. It's a bunch of what ifs but ultimately David De Gea wants to leave the club. Hope, the worst strategy in the world. May as well stick your head in the sand or try and turn back the tide. |
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Post by . on Jun 2, 2015 18:49:10 GMT
Just to be clear, if we keep him for another year, we play him. Even if he doesn't like it professional pride will take over and he'll contribute. Ronaldo in 08-09 started off like a baby but ended up contributing in a major way to a very successful season. Unless De Gea gets another phantom "injury" like he did in the penultimate game last season. He might be getting phantom injuries for the entire year he has to remain. Or maybe he'll go on strike like Tevez did to Pellegrini. Or any other number of scenarios. I say if RM wants him now, they pay, and pay BIG, or they can fuck off. In the meantime, we get another keeper and play him, with De Gea on the bench. |
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Post by dsilvaxx2 on Jun 2, 2015 19:26:14 GMT
Well lots of different opinions here, but mine is we make the best deal possible and move on. I would hope we could score a player we need like Varane, or make weight for Bale. Cash alone doesn't do this move justice, but if it does results in a straight sale and we use that money on a top target so be it...
having DDG stay another year and leave on a free does nothing but show our spite and stupidity in dealing with today's market, and could ultimately harm us in future dealings...
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Post by Kamilo on Jun 2, 2015 19:59:21 GMT
HE didn't sign, the club sought to renew last term. They were hoping for him to sign were they supposed to just sell him on the chance he wouldn't. It's a bunch of what ifs but ultimately David De Gea wants to leave the club. Hope, the worst strategy in the world. May as well stick your head in the sand or try and turn back the tide. So let's just sell Adnan now also, right? |
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Post by Stew on Jun 2, 2015 20:02:23 GMT
'Spain's ABC said this morning that Man United had asked for €35m for De Gea but Real Madrid didn't want to pay more than €25m.' THAT'S WHAT WE PAID FOR THE CUNT WHEN HE WAS 20!!!!!! Honestly, keep him for a year and let him go for free. Madrid can fuck off. When did we start refering to our players as cunts? If he is such a pivotal player for the club, i would be more inclined to ask how and why we let him get to the last year of his contract without looking to get it renewed. This should have been done two years ago so, if he stalled all year, we still have two years to negotiate with. The only people to blame for him possibly leaving on a shoe string is senior cluib management. Wow, pretty sensitive? I back our players, or certainly try, even when they struggle like Nani, Evans, Gibson and DDG in his early days. I'm not sure how long you've been here (not that it matters) but when we first signed him I was one of the people that backed him to the hilt because I knew he'd be world class. It wasn't easy, plenty wanted shot of him. But once a player wants to leave in this fashion, they can fuck off. It's not like Fletch, having given great service, or Evra. It's because he's homesick. The fucking baby. And because his bird calls the shots. Why doesn't she move, for a few years? The club can't force him to sign when there is 2 years left yet they were relaxed. The messages must have been positive from De Gea. But then the rumours started about him saying we needed to strengthen, needed better players coming in. From a 24 year old? Please. Even if he was unsure then he should have had the decency to sign a new contract with an agreed buyout clause. Not doing this has cost Utd 20 million. Why didn't he? It happens all the time. Suarez made his club 30 extra million by staying another year. 30 and he still got his move. But not our Dave. Who do you think told him to do that? Real the wankers, that's who. So instead of the fans turning on him they chant his name, stick by him, as they've always done, when everyone else said he was a dud. Perfect example of getting your cake an eating it too. We have people like yourself saying, senior management are to blame. Not they're not. De Gea is to blame, because he wants to join that snakepit, despite having played for Atletico. Because he's a snake |
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Post by thechemist on Jun 2, 2015 20:06:00 GMT
Hope, the worst strategy in the world. May as well stick your head in the sand or try and turn back the tide. So let's just sell Adnan now also, right? Is Januzaj the players player of the year? Is he a top 3 (heck, even top 10) winger (or whatever position he is) in the world? Did Januzaj play 40+ games this year? Did Januzaj get (save) us a lot of points this season with critical goals (saves) If the answer to any of the above is yes, then we have comparable situations. Otherwise, shit analogy. |
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Post by thechemist on Jun 2, 2015 20:14:58 GMT
When did we start refering to our players as cunts? If he is such a pivotal player for the club, i would be more inclined to ask how and why we let him get to the last year of his contract without looking to get it renewed. This should have been done two years ago so, if he stalled all year, we still have two years to negotiate with. The only people to blame for him possibly leaving on a shoe string is senior cluib management. Wow, pretty sensitive? I back our players, or certainly try, even when they struggle like Nani, Evans, Gibson and DDG in his early days. I'm not sure how long you've been here (not that it matters) but when we first signed him I was one of the people that backed him to the hilt because I knew he'd be world class. It wasn't easy, plenty wanted shot of him. But once a player wants to leave in this fashion, they can fuck off. It's not like Fletch, having given great service, or Evra. It's because he's homesick. The fucking baby. And because his bird calls the shots. Why doesn't she move, for a few years? The club can't force him to sign when there is 2 years left yet they were relaxed. The messages must have been positive from De Gea. But then the rumours started about him saying we needed to strengthen, needed better players coming in. From a 24 year old? Please. Even if he was unsure then he should have had the decency to sign a new contract with an agreed buyout clause. Not doing this has cost Utd 20 million. Why didn't he? It happens all the time. Suarez made his club 40 extra million by staying another year. 40 and he still got his move. But not our Dave. Who do you think told him to do that? Real the wankers, that's who. So instead of the fans turning on him they chant his name, stick by him, as they've always done, when everyone else said he was a dud. Perfect example of getting your cake an eating it too. We have people like yourself saying, senior management are to blame. Not they're not. De Gea is to blame, because he wants to join that snakepit, despite having played for Atletico. Because he's a snake HAHAHA, way to go, championing a Dipper that racially abused one of our players. It is not DDG's fault he has one year left on his contract and NOW the club decide they need to sell. Yet, many here will cry out how RM will not 'support' him - oh the irony. Some would argue that is a little hypocrital. The rest of it, bollocks and irrelevant. DDG cannot sign a contract if it is not in front of him and, when it was needed, the club did not look to secure his services. Presumably no-one ever signed for 'bitter' rivals? I must have dreamed about Ronaldo, Figo, Beardsley, Law. |
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Jun 2, 2015 20:15:15 GMT
When did we start refering to our players as cunts? If he is such a pivotal player for the club, i would be more inclined to ask how and why we let him get to the last year of his contract without looking to get it renewed. This should have been done two years ago so, if he stalled all year, we still have two years to negotiate with. The only people to blame for him possibly leaving on a shoe string is senior cluib management. Wow, pretty sensitive? I back our players, or certainly try, even when they struggle like Nani, Evans, Gibson and DDG in his early days. I'm not sure how long you've been here (not that it matters) but when we first signed him I was one of the people that backed him to the hilt because I knew he'd be world class. It wasn't easy, plenty wanted shot of him. But once a player wants to leave in this fashion, they can fuck off. It's not like Fletch, having given great service, or Evra. It's because he's homesick. The fucking baby. And because his bird calls the shots. Why doesn't she move, for a few years? The club can't force him to sign when there is 2 years left yet they were relaxed. The messages must have been positive from De Gea. But then the rumours started about him saying we needed to strengthen, needed better players coming in. From a 24 year old? Please. Even if he was unsure then he should have had the decency to sign a new contract with an agreed buyout clause. Not doing this has cost Utd 20 million. Why didn't he? It happens all the time. Suarez made his club 40 extra million by staying another year. 40 and he still got his move. But not our Dave. Who do you think told him to do that? Real the wankers, that's who. So instead of the fans turning on him they chant his name, stick by him, as they've always done, when everyone else said he was a dud. Perfect example of getting your cake an eating it too. We have people like yourself saying, senior management are to blame. Not they're not. De Gea is to blame, because he wants to join that snakepit, despite having played for Atletico. Because he's a snake Passionate stuff mate. Your point is well made. Rooney gets pillarised on this forum yet he is actually still here. De gea bit at the first cherry put in front of him and cost us a fortune in the process. He is certainly not thinking about Manchester united and is dirtying his bib big style. |
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Jun 2, 2015 20:17:49 GMT
Wow, pretty sensitive? I back our players, or certainly try, even when they struggle like Nani, Evans, Gibson and DDG in his early days. I'm not sure how long you've been here (not that it matters) but when we first signed him I was one of the people that backed him to the hilt because I knew he'd be world class. It wasn't easy, plenty wanted shot of him. But once a player wants to leave in this fashion, they can fuck off. It's not like Fletch, having given great service, or Evra. It's because he's homesick. The fucking baby. And because his bird calls the shots. Why doesn't she move, for a few years? The club can't force him to sign when there is 2 years left yet they were relaxed. The messages must have been positive from De Gea. But then the rumours started about him saying we needed to strengthen, needed better players coming in. From a 24 year old? Please. Even if he was unsure then he should have had the decency to sign a new contract with an agreed buyout clause. Not doing this has cost Utd 20 million. Why didn't he? It happens all the time. Suarez made his club 40 extra million by staying another year. 40 and he still got his move. But not our Dave. Who do you think told him to do that? Real the wankers, that's who. So instead of the fans turning on him they chant his name, stick by him, as they've always done, when everyone else said he was a dud. Perfect example of getting your cake an eating it too. We have people like yourself saying, senior management are to blame. Not they're not. De Gea is to blame, because he wants to join that snakepit, despite having played for Atletico. Because he's a snake HAHAHA, way to go, championing a Dipper that racially abused one of our players. It is not DDG's fault he has one year left on his contract and NOW the club decide they need to sell. Yet, many here will cry out how RM will not 'support' him - oh the irony. Some would argue that is a little hypocrital. The rest of it, bollocks and irrelevant. DDG cannot sign a contract if it is not in front of him and, when it was needed, the club did not look to secure his services. Presumably no-one ever signed for 'bitter' rivals? I must have dreamed about Ronaldo, Figo, Beardsley, Law. Bullshit post. The dipper comment warrants a ban. The point is Suarez made Liverpool a fortune by playing ball and having respect for his club. A cunt of a post to be honest. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 2, 2015 20:18:03 GMT
Wow, pretty sensitive? I back our players, or certainly try, even when they struggle like Nani, Evans, Gibson and DDG in his early days. I'm not sure how long you've been here (not that it matters) but when we first signed him I was one of the people that backed him to the hilt because I knew he'd be world class. It wasn't easy, plenty wanted shot of him. But once a player wants to leave in this fashion, they can fuck off. It's not like Fletch, having given great service, or Evra. It's because he's homesick. The fucking baby. And because his bird calls the shots. Why doesn't she move, for a few years? The club can't force him to sign when there is 2 years left yet they were relaxed. The messages must have been positive from De Gea. But then the rumours started about him saying we needed to strengthen, needed better players coming in. From a 24 year old? Please. Even if he was unsure then he should have had the decency to sign a new contract with an agreed buyout clause. Not doing this has cost Utd 20 million. Why didn't he? It happens all the time. Suarez made his club 40 extra million by staying another year. 40 and he still got his move. But not our Dave. Who do you think told him to do that? Real the wankers, that's who. So instead of the fans turning on him they chant his name, stick by him, as they've always done, when everyone else said he was a dud. Perfect example of getting your cake an eating it too. We have people like yourself saying, senior management are to blame. Not they're not. De Gea is to blame, because he wants to join that snakepit, despite having played for Atletico. Because he's a snake HAHAHA, way to go, championing a Dipper that racially abused one of our players. It is not DDG's fault he has one year left on his contract and NOW the club decide they need to sell. Yet, many here will cry out how RM will not 'support' him - oh the irony. Some would argue that is a little hypocrital. The rest of it, bollocks and irrelevant. DDG cannot sign a contract if it is not in front of him and, when it was needed, the club did not look to secure his services. Presumably no-one ever signed for 'bitter' rivals? I must have dreamed about Ronaldo, Figo, Beardsley, Law. Ok. I'm trying to be polite. But lose the sarcastic tone and don't dismiss mine or anyone's opinions on here again. And before you ask- who made me boss? The owner. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jun 2, 2015 20:19:27 GMT
So let's just sell Adnan now also, right? Is Januzaj the players player of the year? Is he a top 3 (heck, even top 10) winger (or whatever position he is) in the world? Did Januzaj play 40+ games this year? Did Januzaj get (save) us a lot of points this season with critical goals (saves) If the answer to any of the above is yes, then we have comparable situations. Otherwise, shit analogy. U can't give player a a 5 year deal and because he is the best player at the team then give him a new contract a year later just incase in 4 years time he won't sign, I stand by our club here, the only person in the wrong is ddg for stringing the club along, he was obviously telling the club he would sing once top 4 is done, which is fair enough but now it has got to this stage he is just screwing us over, Like a few have said he could of signed a new deal and had a similar agreement to ronaldo, give us 1 more year and u get your move and we get a nice fee, but as it stands we as a club are getting bent over by him |
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