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Post by alt on Dec 10, 2012 14:45:54 GMT
I think if we did sign him he'd drop back, can't see him coming in and playing just off the striker still.
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Post by karthy on Dec 10, 2012 14:47:32 GMT
Because he's another player to come into the pecking order ahead of Giggs and Scholes. Which, as Sunday showed, can only be a positive thing. While i'd very much like others coming ahead of Giggs /Scholes i dont think that should be the logic in going after players. Plus the money can be ( as per media reports/rumors) used for alternate targets in Wanyama /Zaha/ Strootman / This ship sailed long ago and we shouldn't waste time in getting to it. |
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Post by Stew on Dec 10, 2012 16:29:25 GMT
We have to let Cleverely have his chance now. Him, Carrick and Rooney at the tip of the diamond has done well on most of the occasions they played. And Kagawa to come back, I think this ship has sailed.
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Post by tommyred on Dec 10, 2012 17:42:23 GMT
Yep don't need an overpaid crock like Sneijder.
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Post by moxdevil on Dec 10, 2012 19:57:03 GMT
I'd have him at United in a heart beat. He offers something that none of our current central midfielders offer - an incisive forward pass. Fergie wouldn't have to have Rooney playing deeper if we had Weshley.
When did our midfield suddenly become so good that we can get blasé about the potential availability of undoubted quality in that position?
Provided that he isn't a crock that is.
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Post by shrike59 on Dec 10, 2012 20:58:16 GMT
I would have him on the cheap,so many of our players get injuries and it might push some of our golden oldies to retire. I dont think it will happen though.
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Post by tommyred on Dec 10, 2012 21:01:01 GMT
I'd have him at United in a heart beat. He offers something that none of our current central midfielders offer - an incisive forward pass. Fergie wouldn't have to have Rooney playing deeper if we had Weshley. When did our midfield suddenly become so good that we can get blasé about the potential availability of undoubted quality in that position? Provided that he isn't a crock that is. Since when did Kagawa not exist? |
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Post by amagichat on Dec 10, 2012 21:27:42 GMT
^^^^^^exactly right. Kagawa and anderson won't be hurt forever and cleverley looks like real quality. and oh yeah, we have carrick too. Bring in a CB. Hummels looks good. So does Subatic. Sorry Dortmund, everyone would just rather play for us.
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Post by moxdevil on Dec 10, 2012 21:34:43 GMT
I'd have him at United in a heart beat. He offers something that none of our current central midfielders offer - an incisive forward pass. Fergie wouldn't have to have Rooney playing deeper if we had Weshley. When did our midfield suddenly become so good that we can get blasé about the potential availability of undoubted quality in that position? Provided that he isn't a crock that is. Since when did Kagawa not exist? The same reason that Rafael doesn't exist in this context, he's not a midfield creator. Kagawa links up with the strikers with one-touch passes and neat flicks, he doesn't create from the middle of the park. He'd never be played in a two man midfield. Carrick is good for intercepting balls whilst sat in front of the back four. His forward passing over 20 yards is the most over-rated part of his game. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 21:57:09 GMT
Since when did Kagawa not exist? The same reason that Rafael doesn't exist in this context, he's not a midfield creator. Kagawa links up with the strikers with one-touch passes and neat flicks, he doesn't create from the middle of the park. He'd never be played in a two man midfield.Carrick is good for intercepting balls whilst sat in front of the back four. His forward passing over 20 yards is the most over-rated part of his game. You think Sneijder would be comfortable in a basic midfield pairing in a 4-4-2? Maybe if he had an in his prime Keane next to him to take 2 players on at once, but alongside any one of our current midfielders I'd be hugely nervous about Sneijder playing there. A midfield of, say, Valencia, Sneijder, Carrick and Young? We'd be over run, big time. The other option is that Rooney would/could drop deep into midfield to help out, but seeing as your previous post mentions not having Rooney do this, then I'm guessing you wouldn't want that? And if we have Kagawa in the hole and dropping deep to make it a midfield 3, then what do we do with RVP and Rooney? 2 into 1 doesn't go. |
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Post by tommyred on Dec 10, 2012 22:05:54 GMT
Since when did Kagawa not exist? The same reason that Rafael doesn't exist in this context, he's not a midfield creator. Kagawa links up with the strikers with one-touch passes and neat flicks, he doesn't create from the middle of the park. He'd never be played in a two man midfield. Carrick is good for intercepting balls whilst sat in front of the back four. His forward passing over 20 yards is the most over-rated part of his game. Neither Kagawa nor Sneijder is suitable in a 2 man midfield. |
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Post by moxdevil on Dec 10, 2012 22:09:35 GMT
The same reason that Rafael doesn't exist in this context, he's not a midfield creator. Kagawa links up with the strikers with one-touch passes and neat flicks, he doesn't create from the middle of the park. He'd never be played in a two man midfield.Carrick is good for intercepting balls whilst sat in front of the back four. His forward passing over 20 yards is the most over-rated part of his game. You think Sneijder would be comfortable in a basic midfield pairing in a 4-4-2? Maybe if he had an in his prime Keane next to him to take 2 players on at once, but alongside any one of our current midfielders I'd be hugely nervous about Sneijder playing there. A midfield of, say, Valencia, Sneijder, Carrick and Young? We'd be over run, big time. The other option is that Rooney would/could drop deep into midfield to help out, but seeing as your previous post mentions not having Rooney do this, then I'm guessing you wouldn't want that? And if we have Kagawa in the hole and dropping deep to make it a midfield 3, then what do we do with RVP and Rooney? 2 into 1 doesn't go. I wouldn't have Carrick in a two man midfield, the only reason we play with three is because he hasn't got the mobility to play in a two. The most suited player for a two man midfield currently at the club is Cleverley - he has energy and keeps it simple (think Fletcher before he lost his energy and strength). I'm of the opinion we need new midfielders as the one's we have shouldn't be considered good enough to start. |
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Post by Tatty on Dec 10, 2012 22:26:59 GMT
If we brought in Sneihder we'd have him wide left like he does for Holland, and have Kagawa wide right, both drifting inside for the killer pass.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 17:20:49 GMT
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He doesnt like playing in midfield.He fell out with the Inter Coach for playing him there and went on record saying he prefers to play behind the Striker.We are well sorted in that position and we have young Petrucci coming through who should be ready next season after missing around 2 years between 18-20, now that lad can pick a pass.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 17:30:52 GMT
If we brought in Sneihder we'd have him wide left like he does for Holland, and have Kagawa wide right, both drifting inside for the killer pass. HHNNNNGGGGG maybe thats why we're fucking off Nani  |
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