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Post by Vidic>Superman on Dec 14, 2012 21:10:26 GMT
I find it really hard to believe that anything will actually change after this latest horrific event. I'm a fan of Obama, but I won't believe anything any President says until change is actually implemented with regards to gun control.
I can remember far too many stories like this and I'm only twenty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 21:10:58 GMT
Could they sent an american into anfield by any chance?
Nah on a serious note surely something has to chance law wise. I mean how many times does something happen before you need to alter a law. feel for all those related to the victims. Sad that so many people at such an age have to be on the wrong side of 1 dickhead. Sadly until something changes these tragedies will keep occurring.
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Post by fletcherini on Dec 14, 2012 21:23:20 GMT
I saw on documentary (think it was on BBC THREE a while back) where the pro-gun lobby, for want of a better term, were adamant that U.S. citizens have the right to bear arms.
Unfortunately, something like this is going to happen again in the future.
They're saying the guy who did this was 20 years old, this guy could have gained access to his dads/ brothers/ cousins licenced gun in a garage somewhere.
What can you do?
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Post by redcase on Dec 15, 2012 5:12:25 GMT
I agree with besto, jimbo and the others, public shootings are becoming far too common an occurence to actually surprise anybody. In fact, if it was a mall shooting or shooting at another public place I might not have been so shocked myself.
What I am shocked about is the killer chose an elementary school to go and carry out his act. He choose to shoot a 5 year old kid in the face. He chose kids ! That's what shocks me. What kind of person shoots kids to death I wonder...
Even now the gun lobbyists are coming up with rubbish excuses to keep hold of their weapons. Sickening.
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Post by Stew on Dec 15, 2012 8:47:12 GMT
The fact is lads, the weapons industry is absolutely huge business in the US and unfortunately money talks. Any decent, normal human being knows that the first time there was one of these tragedies guns should have been severely restricted but they weren't nor will they ever be. They are worth too much money. And yes, it is obscene that industry is valued much more than those 20 children, those in the cinema, Columbine, the list is endless sadly.
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Post by Stew on Dec 15, 2012 8:53:39 GMT
New York Times:
Each slaughter of innocents seems to get more appalling. A high school. A college campus. A movie theater. People meeting their congresswoman. A shopping mall in Oregon, just this Tuesday. On Friday, an elementary school classroom.
People will want to know about the killer in Newtown, Conn. His background and his supposed motives. Did he show signs of violence? But what actually matters are the children. What are their names? What did they dream of becoming? Did they enjoy finger painting? Or tee ball?
All that is now torn away. There is no crime greater than violence against children, no sorrow greater than that of a parent who has lost a child, especially in this horrible way. Our hearts are broken for those parents who found out their children — little more than babies, really — were wounded or killed, and for those who agonized for hours before taking their traumatized children home.
President Obama said he had talked to Gov. Dannel P. Malloy of Connecticut and promised him the full resources of the federal government to investigate the killer and give succor to his victims. We have no doubt Mr. Obama will help in any way he can, for now, but what about addressing the problem of guns gone completely out of control, a problem that comes up each time a shooter opens fire on a roomful of people but then disappears again?
The assault weapons ban enacted under President Clinton was deficient and has expired. Mr. Obama talked about the need for “common sense” gun control after the movie theater slaughter in Aurora, Colo., and he hinted during the campaign that he might support a new assault weapons ban, presumably if someone else introduced it.
Republicans will never do that, because they are mired in an ideology that opposes any gun control. After each tragedy, including this one, some people litter the Internet with grotesque suggestions that it would be better if everyone (kindergarten teachers?) were armed. Far too many Democrats also live in fear of the gun lobby and will not support an assault weapons ban, or a ban on high-capacity bullet clips, or any one of a half-dozen other sensible ideas.
Mr. Obama said Friday that “we have been through this too many times” and that “we’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.”
When will that day come? It did not come after the 1999 Columbine shooting, or the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, or the murders in Aurora last summer.
The more that we hear about gun control and nothing happens, the less we can believe it will ever come. Certainly, it will not unless Mr. Obama and Congressional leaders show the courage to make it happen.
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Post by Stew on Dec 15, 2012 9:00:42 GMT
Let Americans bear arms. Keep the 2nd Amendment in place unchanged. But make posession of a single bullet a jailable offence.
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Post by Dan United on Dec 15, 2012 9:19:23 GMT
Could they sent an american into anfield by any chance? I love that your undiluted hatred of Liverpool can even manifest itself in a thread like this ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 11:19:27 GMT
Could they sent an american into anfield by any chance? I love that your undiluted hatred of Liverpool can even manifest itself in a thread like this ;D  On a serious note though I don't actually wish this to happen lol. Just been watching it and fair play its terrible, 20 kids aged 5-10 and 8 adults just leaves a lump in the throat. Nothing against the country but Im glad we don't have laws like that. Saw a picture of one of the parents crying on the phone and I felt so bad for her, No parents should have to go through that. The thing that pisses me off is this vile piece of shit that's done this will probably be declared medically unstable and live off the state instead of getting what he deserves, the death penalty. Although for someone like this the death penalty is the easy way out, he should be made to suffer. Chuck him in a room and starve him out. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 12:49:14 GMT
they need Bullet control
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Post by Bestie on Dec 15, 2012 13:08:11 GMT
You people are stealing my bullet-ban thunder.
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Post by karthy on Dec 15, 2012 14:38:31 GMT
Sadly i am not too surprised by this act but am shocked that this time its little children. The ones who have a left at such a time - i mean they must have been dreaming of christmas gifts and everything that the parents would be unconsolable ATM. + The ones that did survive , heard a Teacher locking a bunch of 20 kids or so and praying till rescued , that kind of scar on these kids is gonna remain forever , fear at the young minds when they should be laughing and enjoying and being innocent. Now all of this is lost. That , unfortunately is the larger picture that America is being ignorant of or turning a blind eye. Every such incident creates a few more "monsters" harping on Madness and Revenge thus leading to Chaos and destruction. If you can't do away with stupid laws , at least make it highly impossible to get /acquire them . Higher taxes or Less benefits or something . Feel really sorry for the parents and the lil ones  |
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 15, 2012 15:12:54 GMT
Its a stupid country, lets be honest about it. This happens time and time again and yet again that stupid government and there dickless politicans have failed to protect there kids. When this happened in this country, private hand guns were banned. You can walk into a shop in the state, as long as you don't have a criminal record, you can walk out of that shop with any gun you like. Its ridiculous.
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Post by Dan United on Dec 15, 2012 18:20:29 GMT
The first obligation of any GOvernment should be to ensure the safety of their citizens, and the US fails at this simply because they refuse to overturn a 'right' that was written at a completely different time. It's so, so, so backwards.
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Post by Rene Meulensteen on Dec 15, 2012 19:01:31 GMT
I love that your undiluted hatred of Liverpool can even manifest itself in a thread like this ;D On a serious note though I don't actually wish this to happen lol. Just been watching it and fair play its terrible, 20 kids aged 5-10 and 8 adults just leaves a lump in the throat. Nothing against the country but Im glad we don't have laws like that. Saw a picture of one of the parents crying on the phone and I felt so bad for her, No parents should have to go through that. The thing that pisses me off is this vile piece of shit that's done this will probably be declared medically unstable and live off the state instead of getting what he deserves, the death penalty. Although for someone like this the death penalty is the easy way out, he should be made to suffer. Chuck him in a room and starve him out.He's dead pal, coward shot himself in the school!! |
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