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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Feb 16, 2015 11:36:24 GMT
The fifth successful World Cup chase in excess of 300 and three of them have been by Ireland.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 11:46:10 GMT
Just read Freddie Flintoff has gone into the Aus version of I'm a Celeb...deos that count in here?
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Post by ZlattackRed on Feb 20, 2015 11:47:07 GMT
England being thrashed again. NZ made a mockery of English bowling and batting. Why is Eng so piss poor. They try to improve their domestic pool by allowing foreign players to play in the county circuit, but it seems it has done more harm than good. Foreign players have gained more knowledge of the English game than the Englishmen improving theirs.
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 20, 2015 15:13:57 GMT
They try to improve their domestic pool by allowing foreign players to play in the county circuit, but it seems it has done more harm than good. I feel its the other way that has done harm to their Cricket, England don't allow thier players to play in the overseas tournaments like IPL and BBL etc and their players have to pay compensation to their County in order to play in the overseas leagues, they don't get enough exposure to play in overseas conditions before getting into the England team because of this. And credit to New Zealand, their strategy was spot on today. They kept looking for wickets right from the start, most teams will take the slips away after getting 2-3 wickets but New Zealand persisted with slips and gave few extra overs to their strike bowlers in the first spell. Very impressive Captaincy from Brendon McCullum. |
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Post by _ on Feb 20, 2015 15:29:31 GMT
I remember when we used to have 11 English born players - the slide began in the 80s when all those South Africans came over because SA were still banned from international sport
No way back from that and the "qualification" to play for England is now a mockery
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 22, 2015 16:57:42 GMT
I remember when we used to have 11 English born players - the slide began in the 80s when all those South Africans came over because SA were still banned from international sport No way back from that and the "qualification" to play for England is now a mockery Too many captain changes is also too blame. Someone who knocks up run's, hundreds in an innings then straight away he is captain material then sooner or later they kick out the current captain because his runs have dried up and the team start losing matches and that other guy is named as captain. Then it starts all over again.  |
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Post by _ on Feb 22, 2015 17:07:22 GMT
I remember when we used to have 11 English born players - the slide began in the 80s when all those South Africans came over because SA were still banned from international sport No way back from that and the "qualification" to play for England is now a mockery Too many captain changes is also too blame. Someone who knocks up run's, hundreds in an innings then straight away he is captain material then sooner or later they kick out the current captain because his runs have dried up and the team start losing matches and that other guy is named as captain. Then it starts all over again. Seems to me that captains are chosen based on marketing potential and PR rather than captaining ability - look how many ex-captains are now on Sky - they are presentable and come across well in the media (talk a good game) but were they really great captains like a Border, Waugh or even Clive Lloyd? We need to dig up Douglas Jardine |
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 22, 2015 17:15:47 GMT
Too many captain changes is also too blame. Someone who knocks up run's, hundreds in an innings then straight away he is captain material then sooner or later they kick out the current captain because his runs have dried up and the team start losing matches and that other guy is named as captain. Then it starts all over again. Seems to me that captains are chosen based on marketing potential and PR rather than captaining ability - look how many ex-captains are now on Sky - they are presentable and come across well in the media (talk a good game) but were they really great captains like a Border, Waugh or even Clive Lloyd? We need to dig up Douglas Jardine Colin Cowdrew, Ted Dexter, Mike Brearley, Bob Willis, Mike Gatting too name a few. They would do far better than the last lot over the years. |
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Post by _ on Feb 22, 2015 17:18:48 GMT
Seems to me that captains are chosen based on marketing potential and PR rather than captaining ability - look how many ex-captains are now on Sky - they are presentable and come across well in the media (talk a good game) but were they really great captains like a Border, Waugh or even Clive Lloyd? We need to dig up Douglas Jardine Colin Cowdrew, Ted Dexter, Mike Brearley, Bob Willis, Mike Gatting too name a few. They would do far better than the last lot over the years. Brearley was a great captain - wasn't a top batsman but he was a great tactician - if he was playing today the media would start a campaign to get him sacked because of his 25 average |
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 22, 2015 17:27:18 GMT
Colin Cowdrew, Ted Dexter, Mike Brearley, Bob Willis, Mike Gatting too name a few. They would do far better than the last lot over the years. Brearley was a great captain - wasn't a top batsman but he was a great tactician - if he was playing today the media would start a campaign to get him sacked because of his 25 average Brearley took over from Botham when he got the bullet as captain and rescued the ashes for England against the aussies. I remember that series and like you said, not a great batsman but a good tactician. Even Bob Willis was a great captain, fast bowler and all. |
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Post by ZlattackRed on Feb 23, 2015 10:56:41 GMT
Seems to me that captains are chosen based on marketing potential and PR rather than captaining ability - look how many ex-captains are now on Sky - they are presentable and come across well in the media (talk a good game) but were they really great captains like a Border, Waugh or even Clive Lloyd? We need to dig up Douglas Jardine Colin Cowdrew, Ted Dexter, Mike Brearley, Bob Willis, Mike Gatting too name a few. They would do far better than the last lot over the years. Tbh, England doesnt have anyone who would be a charismatic captain. Its a young team. Cook was their most potent captain, but had to be dropped due to form issues. Morgan is very inconsistent. Successful teams have stable regimes. Aus under Ponting Ind under Dhoni SA under Smith These are just recent examples, there are innumerate examples from the past too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 11:01:59 GMT
Colin Cowdrew, Ted Dexter, Mike Brearley, Bob Willis, Mike Gatting too name a few. They would do far better than the last lot over the years. Tbh, England doesnt have anyone who would be a charismatic captain. Its a young team. Cook was their most potent captain, but had to be dropped due to form issues. Morgan is very inconsistent. Successful teams have stable regimes. Aus under Ponting Ind under Dhoni SA under Smith These are just recent examples, there are innumerate examples from the past too. I don't know what it is about the England team but the captains tend to be brilliant until they become captain |
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Post by ZlattackRed on Feb 23, 2015 11:07:38 GMT
Tbh, England doesnt have anyone who would be a charismatic captain. Its a young team. Cook was their most potent captain, but had to be dropped due to form issues. Morgan is very inconsistent. Successful teams have stable regimes. Aus under Ponting Ind under Dhoni SA under Smith These are just recent examples, there are innumerate examples from the past too. I don't know what it is about the England team but the captains tend to be brilliant until they become captain Yes, probably goes into their head. I always thought that KP had the charisma and acumen to be a successful captain. But, dont know what is the problem between him and the board. A potentially brilliant career cut short. Not that I care a lot about English cricket, but its disappointing that one of the founding nations of the sport are being dismal at major events. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 11:09:53 GMT
I don't know what it is about the England team but the captains tend to be brilliant until they become captain Yes, probably goes into their head. I always thought that KP had the charisma and acumen to be a successful captain. But, dont know what is the problem between him and the board. A potentially brilliant career cut short. Not that I care a lot about English cricket, but its disappointing that one of the founding nations of the sport are being dismal at major events.Pretty much every sport then |
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Post by ZlattackRed on Feb 23, 2015 11:12:29 GMT
Yes, probably goes into their head. I always thought that KP had the charisma and acumen to be a successful captain. But, dont know what is the problem between him and the board. A potentially brilliant career cut short. Not that I care a lot about English cricket, but its disappointing that one of the founding nations of the sport are being dismal at major events.Pretty much every sport then Yup. The yesteryear English colonies are performing better than the England team in many sports |
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