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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:42:47 GMT
I was hoping we'd sign a right back in case Rafael got injured/suspended. I'm not sure that there's much to this story - he was linked to us in the past, and we've got a new manager who would either have to be keen on him as well, or it's a club transfer and not one of Moyes's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 13:44:59 GMT
Won't go away this rumour. If we do sign a centre half I really hope it doesn't mean a potentially outstanding centre back does not get converted in to a midfielder. I have seen nothing to suggest Jones can play in midfield on a regular basis. Try watching any games he's played for us in centre midfield. Then you'll see some stuff to make that suggestion for you. EDIT: Nevermind, tatty has already made that point. I have, see my previous comment for why to me it doesn't suggest that he would be a convincing regular central midfielder.
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Post by Bestie on Jun 12, 2013 13:46:07 GMT
Won't go away this rumour. If we do sign a centre half I really hope it doesn't mean a potentially outstanding centre back does not get converted in to a midfielder. I have seen nothing to suggest Jones can play in midfield on a regular basis. Also, Jonny Evans is already outstanding. When everyone looked at our squad before the window, in terms of where we were well stocked and where we desperately needed to strengthen, how many of us would have said "yep, let's bring in a right back and another central defender" We'll have the most depth in the league with regards to defenders if this happens. In fairness, having an extra CB will be very helpful when the other 1047 we have get injured.
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Post by karthy on Jun 12, 2013 14:06:24 GMT
Which is never far away.
Looking at this it makes sense. Vidic and Rio are not getting any younger ,Smalling seems to have problems with Injuries now and again , which would leave us with Jones and Evans. While good we wouldn't have much cover and throwing in the youngsters in the mix won't help . As on mistake, one loss and the Finger will get pointed at Moyes for not seeing this, for not having the foresight or Trusting the youth too much and being Naive and all that. Pretty Much Vultures to a carcass and I don't just mean the ABU and Media .
So The club is making sure that Cover is provided to all areas to smooth things for Moyes IMO. Its going to be a very Important Summer for us this one
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Post by alt on Jun 12, 2013 19:06:37 GMT
Try watching any games he's played for us in centre midfield. Then you'll see some stuff to make that suggestion for you. EDIT: Nevermind, tatty has already made that point. I have, see my previous comment for why to me it doesn't suggest that he would be a convincing regular central midfielder. Got to agree, Jones will end up being a CB in the long term.
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Post by redcase on Jun 12, 2013 21:49:31 GMT
United shares dropped 9% in one day over the probability of us signing Garay.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 23:12:45 GMT
Don't know how good he is but if this is to take our dependance offRio & Vida while Jones & Smalling improve & hopefully stay fit it might be a good signing. It's a strange one though.
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Post by Stew on Jun 13, 2013 3:00:36 GMT
Don't know how good he is but if this is to take our dependance offRio & Vida while Jones & Smalling improve & hopefully stay fit it might be a good signing. It's a strange one though. He's a good player but 17 million on a position that should be way fown the list of priorities seems a bit OTT.
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Post by Stew on Jun 13, 2013 3:06:29 GMT
Just on this again- I think most of us love the idea of having a large squad. There is also the fear that this 17 mill won't now be spent on central midfield, which has been the case over the last few years (Powell being the only midfielder bought since Rome 2009) However we'll only know whether this has happened on September the 1st so until why not another defender I suppose?
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Post by sleel6 on Jun 13, 2013 4:25:08 GMT
There really is no need for another centre half and certainly not at 17mill (or whatever it is)...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 10:45:40 GMT
As It will stand after this signing: Centre Halves: Evans, Jones, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Garay, Keane(looks a good prospect) Centre Midfield: Carrick, Clevers, Anderson, Giggs Do we need another CH over at least 2 CM's? ?? Getting frustrated now.
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Post by Bestie on Jun 13, 2013 10:50:41 GMT
As It will stand after this signing: Centre Halves: Evans, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Garay, Keane(looks a good prospect) Centre Midfield: Carrick, Clevers, Jones, Anderson, Giggs Do we need another CH over at least 2 CM's? ?? Getting frustrated now. Correction.
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Post by alt on Jun 13, 2013 10:52:55 GMT
This will happen, agent fees are holding it up, fee has been agreed.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 13, 2013 10:54:52 GMT
Tbh, this is looking more like a contingency for Rio's eventual departure next year. Another top CH to play alongside Vidic and integrate until, eventually, he leaves the year after. Otherwise everyone will know we're in need of a CB when the time comes and the prices will go up accordingly.
Leaving us with Evans & Garay/Smalling as our future first choice pairing. The fact Jones can play at CB and CM is a bonus, he'll get games where he's best.
I really hope it's not 17 million though, that seems very expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 10:55:53 GMT
As It will stand after this signing: Centre Halves: Evans, Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Garay, Keane(looks a good prospect) Centre Midfield: Carrick, Clevers, Jones, Anderson, Giggs Do we need another CH over at least 2 CM's? ?? Getting frustrated now. Correction. I actually meant to count jones as a CH aswell. Do you think we need another? We need to strengthen our midfield so bad it is not funny any more.
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