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Post by Carbon on May 11, 2019 13:01:08 GMT
Ah there we go, "I have an opinion so I'll voice it" I mean.. well... yeah? k |
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Post by Bestie on May 11, 2019 13:01:58 GMT
Honestly find the farewell video kind of cringeworthy as well. You'd think he was an all time great or someone who'd given his career to us. Shoot me if you wish. The commotion about him is another sad reminder about how far we've fallen in my opinion. This is it really. Maybe six is harsh. Six/seven. |
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2019 13:02:42 GMT
For everyone in the "we can do better / not bothered camp" name me your list of replacements that'll take less than £160k a week?
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2019 13:04:00 GMT
Honestly find the farewell video kind of cringeworthy as well. You'd think he was an all time great or someone who'd given his career to us. Shoot me if you wish. The commotion about him is another sad reminder about how far we've fallen in my opinion. This is it really. Maybe six is harsh. Six/seven. Daniel who? |
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Post by Bestie on May 11, 2019 13:04:17 GMT
For everyone in the "we can do better / not bothered camp" name me your list of replacements that'll take less than £160k a week? Reckon Declan Rice would take it. Not really a useful question though because we could always offer someone like Tielemans more but then you'd be getting much more. |
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Post by Bestie on May 11, 2019 13:04:31 GMT
This is it really. Maybe six is harsh. Six/seven. Daniel who? Seriously? |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on May 11, 2019 13:04:32 GMT
Cheers for the nostalgic video Ander, enjoy the new job (salary)! And five years outstanding service, always showing in the big games, being the de facto captain, MOTM in the Europa... Yeah, for all of these things too. Would have been great if he stuck around now that we need players of his ilk at the club. |
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Post by johnboy14 on May 11, 2019 13:05:49 GMT
There opposite opinions, surely thats what we want on here. Dudes leaving, has been a great player for the club and comments like 'Not bothered' are pointless and stupid. I did explain why I wasnt bothered with his departure. It might have come across all geordie shore to you but it wasnt meant that way. I disagree with your consensus that we are losing a great player. I cant understand the surprise among supporters over this. Supporters using words like disgrace and treacherous make seem excessive to me. |
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Post by jkr on May 11, 2019 13:08:00 GMT
For everyone in the "we can do better / not bothered camp" name me your list of replacements that'll take less than £160k a week? Reckon Declan Rice would take it. Not really a useful question though because we could always offer someone like Tielemans more but then you'd be getting much more. I'd sign Rice and Tielemans in a heart beat, and keep Herrera. Its not an either or imo. |
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Post by johnboy14 on May 11, 2019 13:09:00 GMT
The option to stay at United wasn't there, every player (or worker) has the right to secure their livelihood and get payed what they feel they're worth. The club broke the psychological contract with Ander, I'd bet he's leaving with a heavy heart but what's his alternative, turn down PSG, retire and sit in the Stretford End as a fan? Obviously not he's still an active player and will move on elsewhere. The calibre of team he's going to speaks volumes about how we fucked up here. Alternative would have been taking a lower wage to stay. He's already making more money than he will ever spend. These ridiculous figures are a vanity exercise. I do think he would of stayed had the PSG offer not been there but you cant blame him for leaving. At the end of the day, footballs a profession and his decision makes sense. |
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Post by mightyez on May 11, 2019 13:25:15 GMT
all the best ander, now who's coming in to replace him? No doubt there will be a replacement. say what you want about Ed but this is a decision that Ole has been involved in, if he was adamant the player was a vital cog in his plans then i doubt he wouldn't have been given more money Ole had no signing player privileges as caretaker apparently, he got made permanent at the end of March. Herrera was free to talk to other clubs in January, and in football letting a players contract run to the last 6 months is a massive "fuck you" to the player. Ship had more or less sailed by the time Ole was made permanent imo. Don’t agree with that. This decision wasn’t made in January, also the likes of jones got new deals based on ole giving his blessing and of course the accountant thinking we could get a fee if it didn’t work out due to the players age and league experience |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 13:25:52 GMT
Not bothered. I'd like Mata to follow. Yeah that makes sense, jettison players who actually give a shit about the club and have a bit of quality, keep the Instagram brigade, our rebuild just got extended. Does he give a shit or does he just act like he does? |
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Post by mightyez on May 11, 2019 13:42:56 GMT
Yeah that makes sense, jettison players who actually give a shit about the club and have a bit of quality, keep the Instagram brigade, our rebuild just got extended. Does he give a shit or does he just act like he does? think he does, but i also think we are in such a mess that we are best allowing anyone who has doubts about us to leave and also anyone who doesnt want to be here to leave swell. we are gonna need so hard graft mixed with skill and commitment galore |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 13:48:54 GMT
Does he give a shit or does he just act like he does? think he does, but i also think we are in such a mess that we are best allowing anyone who has doubts about us to leave and also anyone who doesnt want to be here to leave swell. we are gonna need so hard graft mixed with skill and commitment galore We also seriously need to stop overpaying people. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2019 14:00:43 GMT
Yeah that makes sense, jettison players who actually give a shit about the club and have a bit of quality, keep the Instagram brigade, our rebuild just got extended. Does he give a shit or does he just act like he does? Fair question. I think he's a passionate person. He probably carries that wherever he goes. I don't think it was specific to United as I think if he had a specific passion for the club he'd have absolutely stayed. Yeah the club took their time offering the new deal but the fans have always loved him here, he could have took that on board instead. He eventually received reasonable offers and turned them down for more money at the club of all mercenaries. You don't do that if 'your heart is red' or whatever the line was in the video.
I'd prefer to see honesty rather han some soppy arsed goodbye video. "I enjoyed my time at the club, it's a great club but I'm going to win some piss easy, guaranteed trophies in France, probably mainly from the bench whilst pocketing a huge wad of cash in the process.", would've been better.
Then I'd have said fair play and good luck.
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