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Post by dsilvaxx2 on Jun 29, 2017 22:08:30 GMT
Unless we are part of Eds team, there is no way to know what the complications of the deal really are. RM could be waiting to set other deals before they commit to ours, who knows. Ed brought in a great summer last season so I will cut him a bit of slack at this point, and yes the faxgate with De Gea wasn't to shabby either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 22:17:47 GMT
Morata can go to united all he wants. Woodward isn't in  He's in another country. Nice try though. He is a baffoon however. |
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jun 29, 2017 22:58:52 GMT
So not a fan of Ed?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 23:48:55 GMT
People do say that the more you dislike someone the more in face you actually like them. Maybe he's masking his true feelings. |
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Post by king nothing on Jun 30, 2017 4:56:12 GMT
Sheepskin coat, thick gold bracelet, sovereign rings, cigar and a handshake over the bonnet of an aging jaguar. This is how football transfers should be done. Not teams of lawyers from three or more parties, all trying to make as much or spend as little as possible. Fuck me the sums involved these days, image rights etc no wonder it takes time.
I don't have a clue what EW does during his daily routine, so I can't really call him shit at his job. Maybe he thinks I'm wank at my job...
I'm also pretty sure you don't get to where he is at our club if you are 'shit' and if you do, then we are in big trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 5:29:42 GMT
Hes an investment banker and accountant, he's very good at his job. You can tell that by the sponsorship deals he's signed, thats what he does. Dealing with players and agents were new to him when he was brought into the club.
I blame the yank cunts for not putting an experience person in charge of the essentials. However their essebtial aim is to make as much money and pocket the profits as much they can, not to satisfy the supporters of the club.
Plus I'm not defending him but we dont exactly know what goes on behind closed doors either. Does he have full operational control over the club or is his control reigned in. We dont know.
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Post by CaajScot on Jun 30, 2017 6:14:55 GMT
I take it you joined RoM enzo1965 just to blow off steam about our Mr.Ed and we won't hear from you again? |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 30, 2017 6:43:23 GMT
Just how utterly shit is Ed Woodward at his job? Alvaro Morata has done everything just short of arriving at Carrington with his wife and bags and Ed is still struggling to sign him. We all know if we do sign him it will be after we have totally capitulated and paid Madrid exactly what they asked for. It's not the slave-trade or some archaic system of exchange - if Madrid want a certain amount they're entitled to that. Struggle to believe Morata has "done everything" possible to leave the club of his dreams and force a move to Manchester, unless you believe the shite relating to him cutting short his honeymoon to "speed up" the move, in which case you have a few long transfer windows ahead. |
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Post by JamBritRed on Jun 30, 2017 14:52:27 GMT
Just how utterly shit is Ed Woodward at his job? Alvaro Morata has done everything just short of arriving at Carrington with his wife and bags and Ed is still struggling to sign him. We all know if we do sign him it will be after we have totally capitulated and paid Madrid exactly what they asked for. This man has the negotiating skills of Theresa May. Sack the ticker and put him out of his misery. First post or not, this poster has a point, and i'd suspect a lot of us on here would agree with him that Ed is a piss poor negotiator of footballing talent (clearly not the case on the marketing side as he could probably sell advertising space on every inch of his exposed body if given the opportunity). Paying over the odds for talent isn't negotiating! low balling a team when they are in a financial crunch (which apparently doesn't exist anyway) isn't negotiating either IMHO! All Woodward has proven he can do is get bullied on price or miss major targets. If, for example, Perisic is the Manager's first choice for a winger, how has Ed not fucked this transfer? as with Fellaini, he has placed a bid well below the selling club's valuation, and if the Manager is adamant that he get's his player, we will AGAIN be forced to pay more that what the selling club originally claimed they would accept. If we get Morata, we WILL pay what Real wants or give them something in return (Dave) to reduce the blow. Woodward has shown time and again that he can do no better than to either cave in or miss out. getting a deal for a player has long been off the table. And if Dave does go (and deep down i still suspect he will) Woodward will make a debacle of getting a replacement. we lost our transfer dealings cache when Gill left. we did pay over the odd's with him too, mind you, but at least were not consistently embarrassed publicly by opposing club chairmen and our own propensity to talk the big talk in the press. Fuck Woodward, he IS shit at (this aspect of) his job! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 15:45:54 GMT
He's by no means perfect, but as I've said in another post he seems to be learning something at least... He didn't lowball on Perisic, he went in with what many would call market Value for a player that age who's not done all that much.
Not paying the 50M is exactly what he should be doing. And if he's worth 50 in your opinion then we won't be paying over the odds when he hands over 80M or so for Morata because he's worth at least 30M more than Perisic
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 16:31:44 GMT
He's by no means perfect, but as I've said in another post he seems to be learning something at least... He didn't lowball on Perisic, he went in with what many would call market Value for a player that age who's not done all that much. Not paying the 50M is exactly what he should be doing. And if he's worth 50 in your opinion then we won't be paying over the odds when he hands over 80M or so for Morata because he's worth at least 30M more than Perisic Problem is he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He pays the 50m he's an idiot. He doesn't pay the 50m he's an idiot. Its like he can't win. |
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Post by JamBritRed on Jun 30, 2017 17:51:59 GMT
He's by no means perfect, but as I've said in another post he seems to be learning something at least... He didn't lowball on Perisic, he went in with what many would call market Value for a player that age who's not done all that much. Not paying the 50M is exactly what he should be doing. And if he's worth 50 in your opinion then we won't be paying over the odds when he hands over 80M or so for Morata because he's worth at least 30M more than Perisic Problem is he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He pays the 50m he's an idiot.He doesn't pay the 50m he's an idiot. Its like he can't win. i dont necessarily agree with this point. it is a widely held position on this forum that the player isn't worth that, but i for one dont hold that view. i frankly don't care if he's 'worth' 5-10 mil less. what i place emphasis on is if he's the managers preferred choice. if he is, and we believe in the authority and competence of this manager, then Woodward's job is to sign the player, end of. If Mou thinks Perisic is what we need to win this league, then we should spend what it takes to get him. equally so with Morata, be it 80mil or more. if we think Mou has a shot, we need to support him with the players he chooses, especially if they are available. it's not like the players are 'untouchable'. these are gettable targets, and if the manager wants these specific players to implement his best strategy it would be very short-term thinking to save a few million of the club's Sterling Pounds to go into a dividend call or an interest repayment, when spending said money could reap greater returns in 11 months time. |
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