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Post by troubleontheway on Feb 24, 2015 17:14:32 GMT
Of course the media and ABUs will pile on. We spent a lot of money on the boy and they'll give us shit any chance they get. That said...
- Looked pure class when he first got here
- Has suffered a pretty traumatic personal experience
- Has been played out of position
- Has been stifled by the overly defensive mindset of the team and lack of movement up front
Have we so quickly forgotten the Champions League final motm who repeatedly set up Ronaldo and Benzema for fun last season? Let's give him time. He'll be a great player for us.
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 24, 2015 17:24:05 GMT
Yeah, relevant stats. Next you'll be bringing out Downing's assists to the assistee stats, eh? I mean, the only stats that count to me (for attack-minded players) are assists and goals. Again though, stats don't tell you everything, but if you need stats to be convinced of Di Maria's abilities then I give up. Also, people complaining about his inaccuracies should remember he's a winger - inconsistency is part of their game and it's through the sheer numbers of these attempts that they're effective. And bloody hell, Angel can be effective. Wouldn't be surprised to see the hypocrisy go even deeper, with some of his critics probably wanting Nani back.I mean. (Not attacking you by the way, simply the recent deluded criticism) Leave Nani where he is. Just because he scored a wonder goal as they say we should bring him back, no way. Young 18 year old Rathbone scored a wonder goal in the under 18s the other night and he is a midfielder, love too see the likes of him get a game. Next we will hear and see that Ando scored a wonder goal and we should bring him back.  |
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Post by Tatty on Feb 24, 2015 17:25:04 GMT
Let's not forget he's working the league out. Once he recognises who the weak links are in the opposition, he'll fly. That was always Ronaldo's best asset.
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Post by _ on Feb 24, 2015 18:10:35 GMT
ADM has gone from looking like a great player eager to display his flair irrespective of the opposition to an average looking Joe wanting to blend into the background. There is something seriously wrong in the house.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 24, 2015 18:18:03 GMT
Oh Phil.
*Stares solemnly out of living room window, thinking of all the loves that could have been*
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Post by _ on Feb 24, 2015 18:28:41 GMT
Yeah, relevant stats. Next you'll be bringing out Downing's assists to the assistee stats, eh? I mean, the only stats that count to me (for attack-minded players) are assists and goals. Again though, stats don't tell you everything, but if you need stats to be convinced of Di Maria's abilities then I give up. Also, people complaining about his inaccuracies should remember he's a winger - inconsistency is part of their game and it's through the sheer numbers of these attempts that they're effective. And bloody hell, Angel can be effective. Wouldn't be surprised to see the hypocrisy go even deeper, with some of his critics probably wanting Nani back.I mean. (Not attacking you by the way, simply the recent deluded criticism) Leave Nani where he is. Just because he scored a wonder goal as they say we should bring him back, no way. Young 18 year old Rathbone scored a wonder goal in the under 18s the other night and he is a midfielder, love too see the likes of him get a game. Next we will hear and see that Ando scored a wonder goal and we should bring him back. But we LOVE Ando  |
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Post by _ on Feb 24, 2015 18:29:33 GMT
Oh Phil. *Stares solemnly out of living room window, thinking of all the loves that could have been* Sounds like The Smiths |
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Post by _ on Feb 24, 2015 18:34:08 GMT
Of course the media and ABUs will pile on. We spent a lot of money on the boy and they'll give us shit any chance they get. That said... - Looked pure class when he first got here - Has suffered a pretty traumatic personal experience - Has been played out of position - Has been stifled by the overly defensive mindset of the team and lack of movement up front Have we so quickly forgotten the Champions League final motm who repeatedly set up Ronaldo and Benzema for fun last season? Let's give him time. He'll be a great player for us. Agree with all of that and I also feel he's showing his frustration with the quality he's trying to provide for Would love to see Willo getting a run and the two trying to build an understanding Failing that buy Ronnie and Benzema |
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Post by grandpaTJ on Feb 24, 2015 19:12:59 GMT
Reallry like to see ADM set back into the middle where he is most effective. Love the look on the defenders faces
when he is blasting off full speed, they don't know whether to shit or go blind.
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Post by troubleontheway on Feb 24, 2015 19:16:33 GMT
Reallry like to see ADM set back into the middle where he is most effective. Love the look on the defenders faces when he is blasting off full speed, they don't know whether to shit or go blind.  Or do the splits. |
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Post by swimmityswim on Feb 25, 2015 15:52:34 GMT
Yeah, relevant stats. Next you'll be bringing out Downing's assists to the assistee stats, eh? I mean, the only stats that count to me (for attack-minded players) are assists and goals. Again though, stats don't tell you everything, but if you need stats to be convinced of Di Maria's abilities then I give up. Also, people complaining about his inaccuracies should remember he's a winger - inconsistency is part of their game and it's through the sheer numbers of these attempts that they're effective. And bloody hell, Angel can be effective. Wouldn't be surprised to see the hypocrisy go even deeper, with some of his critics probably wanting Nani back. I mean. (Not attacking you by the way, simply the recent deluded criticism) no what i meant by that was assists only tells you half the story. a key pass is generally the pass before an assist (assist #1 or #2 in ice hockey) and a chance created is an assist that a forward couldnt bother his arse converting. i can think of a number of through balls and passes that ADM has put through to RVP in particular that havent been converted for whatever reason. he's far more effective than his assists total, IMO |
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Post by grandpaTJ on Feb 26, 2015 3:26:44 GMT
Excellent points ^
A lot of the passing that mids are doing go to waste because forwards don't make as much effort
as they ought to be Surely these are passes that they work on in training, and far to many times the forward
the pass is leading seems to be loafing along about 3/4 speed, which makes the passer look pretty inept.
Kind of thing ends up making several other players look bad, when is one player throwing timing off.
For me, the overall play has not been near as "crap" as it might seem
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Post by Kamilo on Feb 26, 2015 4:41:59 GMT
The off the ball movement of our front 4 (if you will) has been so dismal it's no surprise Di Maria hasn't had a good match in some time.
Miss Chica for that reason, although often offsides, you can expect an unorthodox, testing run from him quite regularly.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 26, 2015 9:42:22 GMT
Chico would be as ineffective as Falcao, perhaps slightly better, as our buildup play is so lethargic half the time, with Di Maria the only one actually carrying the ball forward in those defence-to-attack transitions we're all yearning for.
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Post by Bestie on Feb 26, 2015 9:56:30 GMT
The off the ball movement of our front 4 (if you will) has been so dismal it's no surprise Di Maria hasn't had a good match in some time. Miss Chica for that reason, although often offsides, you can expect an unorthodox, testing run from him quite regularly. Yeah, but that just isn't true. There have been multiple occasions this season where the movement from our strikers has been specifically pointed out. Gary Neville even did a piece on it. |
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