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Post by _ on Jan 7, 2015 21:26:16 GMT
The best thing for him would have got the gig in Malta but the parole people scuppered that for him and the media and PFA have tried to fuck him over and end his career in this country
As already said - Lee Hughes never got this much shit for killing someone and doing a runner
I would gladly shoot any proven rapist but there is so much doubt about his guilt and the fact that he still denies it now when it would make life (and his career) so much easier if he held his hands up and admitted it and made an apology
I wonder how many of us would admit to something we didn't do to make life easier?
Obviously IF he's guilty he deserves everything he gets
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Post by Tatty on Jan 7, 2015 22:29:47 GMT
The best thing for him would have got the gig in Malta but the parole people scuppered that for him and the media and PFA have tried to fuck him over and end his career in this country As already said - Lee Hughes never got this much shit for killing someone and doing a runner I would gladly shoot any proven rapist but there is so much doubt about his guilt and the fact that he still denies it now when it would make life (and his career) so much easier if he held his hands up and admitted it and made an apology I wonder how many of us would admit to something we didn't do to make life easier? Obviously IF he's guilty he deserves everything he gets Yes, how dare a criminal, still serving his sentence not be allowed out of the country. FASCISTS!!! And if anything the PFA have bent over to get this cunt a job. Hope someone properly does him on his debut and both his cruciates explode. And what do you mean 'IF' guilty? He's a CONVICTED fucking RAPIST. That's the very legal definiton of guilty. FUCK Ched Evans. Fuck Oldham Atheltic. And fuck anyone who backs Ched Evans. |
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Post by Tatty on Jan 7, 2015 22:37:51 GMT
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Post by swimmityswim on Jan 7, 2015 22:42:03 GMT
The best thing for him would have got the gig in Malta but the parole people scuppered that for him and the media and PFA have tried to fuck him over and end his career in this country As already said - Lee Hughes never got this much shit for killing someone and doing a runner I would gladly shoot any proven rapist but there is so much doubt about his guilt and the fact that he still denies it now when it would make life (and his career) so much easier if he held his hands up and admitted it and made an apology I wonder how many of us would admit to something we didn't do to make life easier? Obviously IF he's guilty he deserves everything he gets Yes, how dare a criminal, still serving his sentence not be allowed out of the country. FASCISTS!!! And if anything the PFA have bent over to get this cunt a job. Hope someone properly does him on his debut and both his cruciates explode. And what do you mean 'IF' guilty? He's a CONVICTED fucking RAPIST. That's the very legal definiton of guilty. FUCK Ched Evans. Fuck Oldham Atheltic. And fuck anyone who backs Ched Evans. but not against their will!! |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 7, 2015 23:20:05 GMT
Fuck rehabilitating rapists. They can rot and die in my view. I just meant that in this ultra PC age we live in the fact that the PFA is trying to hound him out of the game is out of order after he has served his time Did they do the same to Marlon King? .. or is his ethnicity a factor in avoiding the same treatment? .. and there is still a doubt Evans was guilty anywayI agree that any (proven without doubt) rapist should get a bullet to the back of the head though  There isn't. He was found guilty and convicted. He appealed. That appeal was rejected and his conviction stands. He has applied to have a second appeal, as is his legal right. The bastard did it and should just be dead. Sorry, but rapists make me literally shake with rage. |
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Post by _ on Jan 7, 2015 23:26:41 GMT
I agree if he did it there should be no mercy But I just don't have any faith in our legal system anymore to blindly take a verdict as 100% infallible My sister is a solicitor and I get to hear about dozens of innocent people banged up every year just in her region Don't want to offend anyone (else) so I'll keep out of this from now on |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 6:31:38 GMT
Yes, how dare a criminal, still serving his sentence not be allowed out of the country. FASCISTS!!! And if anything the PFA have bent over to get this cunt a job. Hope someone properly does him on his debut and both his cruciates explode. And what do you mean 'IF' guilty? He's a CONVICTED fucking RAPIST. That's the very legal definiton of guilty. FUCK Ched Evans. Fuck Oldham Atheltic. And fuck anyone who backs Ched Evans. but not against their will!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 6:33:09 GMT
To be honest Oldham must like this media circus. I remember them also signing Lee Hughes as well after he killed someone through drink driving.
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Post by Bestie on Jan 8, 2015 9:58:55 GMT
I agree if he did it there should be no mercy But I just don't have any faith in our legal system anymore to blindly take a verdict as 100% infallible My sister is a solicitor and I get to hear about dozens of innocent people banged up every year just in her region Don't want to offend anyone (else) so I'll keep out of this from now on I'm not blindly taking it as infallible. He was found guilty after a trial in front of a jury. Room for error, fair enough. But his appeal was denied, after the application was heard by three judges. No room for layman error. It means that three Court of Appeal judges reviewed the entire case and found NOTHING in it that could warrant re-trying any of the facts. So Evans 'did it' in terms of layman understanding of the law, and of an expert understanding of the law. The hidden secret about our legal system is that it gets things right way more big cases right than it ever gets things wrong. Can't speak for your sister's region though, obviously. But in this case, Evans' is guilty. |
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Post by Rorschach on Jan 8, 2015 10:37:39 GMT
Excellent article, particularly the point about his rehabilitation. He has to be rehabilitated into society but why does it have to be in football? How many other convicted criminals get to come out of jail and then pick the profession in which they are reintroduced to society? I'd imagine it would be a pretty blunt "fuck all". He may whine that football is all he has, but perhaps he should have thought of that before dashing over to a hotel room in the early hours and disgustingly taking advantage of a blind-drunk 19 year old girl with his ape-like mates joining in. I am not someone who believes you should go on punishing someone for eternity, it serves no purpose. He hasn't yet served his time, he has been convicted and his appeal thrown out, he has shown absolutely no remorse (even if the guy didn't even get involved, he still fucking well knew about what was happening to that girl and did nothing to stop it) and is now peddling himself to every desperate club going. I firmly do not believe footballers should be held up to be the moral paragons and role models the media and public expect them to be. It's ridiculous, they're human beings and I'm so sick of them being these bloody whiter-than-white, boring, robotic marketing donkeys. Fucking bring back the 60's and 70's when they were men, they got pissed, had a laugh and were mostly normal people. That said, we simply cannot just say "oh he's an alright lad, we don't know the full story, give him another chance" to a convicted rapist. It's too heinous a crime and seems to be being excused by this disgusting "lad" culture that has sprung up over the last few years. He can fuck off and integrate back into society like any other normal person and get on with his life as such. He had the chance of a solid footballing career and blew that by raping a drunk teenager. He wasn't drunk, he wasn't on drugs, he was stone fucking sober and did that. Oh and anyone comparing him to Lee Hughes can bugger off too. That murdering prick shouldn't be playing either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 10:53:46 GMT
I was on the "he should never play again" camp until I realised he either sits at home courtesy of the tax payer or he takes jobs in the service industry where he's even closer to the general public.
I hate that everyone compares him to Tyson etc but we shouldn't let Evans off due to our ineptitude in the past, but maybe it's unfair to publicly stop him getting a job. In our law system, it's not illegal to return to the trade of football.
I believe he did it. He was convicted, so obviously smarter people than me believe it too. However, he should be allowed to work. We don't have the death penalty here and by our laws he has served and been released.
I think rape is the worst crime of all, well it and paedophilia, he should be incarcerated for 30 years not 3. That would give him more hope of rehabilitation. However, that's not how our system works. By law he is allowed to play football again and this media witch hunt needs to stop. There are plenty of other rapists in the UK today working in all manner of jobs around us and we don't know Jack shit about it...why is Evans different?
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Post by Tatty on Jan 8, 2015 12:21:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 13:53:52 GMT
The PFA wishes to clarify its position regarding Ched Evans following recent media reports.
Our previous statements are set out below and our support for Ched remains the same.
We have had some discussions with Oldham Athletic regarding the interest they expressed in signing Ched, although we feel it is important to make clear that, contrary to what has been reported, we were not 'driving' any deal. As we understand it, the club and player were in discussions and contact was then made with the PFA as matters progressed given the particular circumstances of this situation and we were simply being asked to publicly reiterate our support for the club in signing him. Despite being ready to offer this from the outset, we were asked to delay whilst discussions between the club and player continued, and we were disappointed to see over the course of this week, comments being made which we feel mischaracterise our limited role in this matter.
The PFA's position remains the same, as we have expressed previously, that any club which decides to sign him would receive our support.
We fully recognise that this is a delicate and emotive case and entirely respect that there are opposing views. However, we always felt it was important that Ched made some further comment regarding his current situation and on that basis, he has asked that we include his comments below:
"I am grateful for the support of the PFA in helping me try to return to football and continue my career.
Upon legal advice, I was told not to discuss the events in question. This silence has been misinterpreted as arrogance and I would like to state that this could not be further from the truth.
I do remain limited at present by what I can say due to the ongoing referral to the Criminal Cases Review Commission and whilst I continue to maintain my innocence, I wish to make it clear that I wholeheartedly apologise for the effects that night in Rhyl has had on many people, not least the woman concerned.
Finally, it has been claimed that those using social media in an abusive and vindictive way towards this woman are supporters of mine. I wish to make it clear that these people are not my supporters and I condemn their actions entirely and will continue to do so."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 13:56:33 GMT
So, he maintains his innocence, but is sorry for the effects of that night on the girl involved.
He's defo innocent
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Post by smithy2 on Jan 8, 2015 14:06:42 GMT
Oldham staff threatened and bullied until they pulled out, sad times.
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