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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 2:46:51 GMT
I'm amazed he hasn't asked the dippers. I mean they instantly turn into victims so would suit him down to the ground. Plus their deluded following wouldn't turn on him either as they've defended Racists, wife beaters, match fixers and cannibals in the past.
Some might say his perfect club.
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Post by washyourhands on Dec 1, 2014 2:52:20 GMT
I completely agree with Bestie and especially Tatty on this one.
What I can't get my head around is this idea that Evans should be exiled to another country where his rapaciousness will be given 'free reign'. Are the innocent, defenseless women in these ’other’ countries suddenly fair game, or is rape commited against them just not as serious a crime as it is against women here? I am sorry but I just don't find it very funny.
NB I think you will find rape figures in Britain, Europe and the US stack up against anywhere else where it is given ’free reign’ , even when many go unreported in such countries.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 5:21:47 GMT
This thread is getting a bit dodgy now.
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Post by ratbag on Dec 1, 2014 10:05:46 GMT
I haven't studied or read the case so I am not familiar with all of the circumstances but I have noticed here and elsewhere an illogical point of view and that is those people who are saying he is showing no remorse so fuck him...
Here's the thing - IF he didn't do it and is appealing the case, what would he be showing remorse for? He is saying he didn't do it. IF he wins his appeal, then ergo he didn't do it so the only remorse should be for being a cheating bastard and he should be ever grateful to his wife...
...who should slice his balls off...
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Post by _ on Dec 1, 2014 11:05:13 GMT
I haven't studied or read the case so I am not familiar with all of the circumstances but I have noticed here and elsewhere an illogical point of view and that is those people who are saying he is showing no remorse so fuck him... Here's the thing - IF he didn't do it and is appealing the case, what would he be showing remorse for? He is saying he didn't do it. IF he wins his appeal, then ergo he didn't do it so the only remorse should be for being a cheating bastard and he should be ever grateful to his wife... ...who should slice his balls off... Agree - IF he's innocent he wouldn't show remorse - I doubt any of us would if we were falsely accused either Always had my doubts about the case because of the dozens of slappers that have cried rape against footballers in the past - isn't this the only conviction? Says plenty about most of the accusations IMO - these people are so desperate for media attention they will say or do anything to get it IF he's innocent (he could be or he may not) his career has been ruined in this country at least - even if he wins an appeal he'll still be hounded by the media - instead of being called "convicted rapist" he'll be referred to as "accused rapist" - he can't win whatever he does Obviously if he is guilty he should be strung up by the nuts  |
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Post by washyourhands on Dec 1, 2014 12:03:50 GMT
I must be missing something here which Tatty alluded to earlier: he was found guilty by a court of law here already and he has had an appeal thrown out as well. According to lawyers in the media, he ain't likely to be successful either with this one. Falsely accusing someone of this crime is abhorrent and should also carry a custodial sentence. However, conversely, the reason many women do not come forward is because of the ingrained suspicion that they are 'tarts' or femme fatales who are trying to ensnare a man.
Here's something I can't understand and I hope Bestie can explain. If Evans is successful with his appeal, will he be able to claim compensation for the paltry time he has already served as this would now be redundant? Or is he only appealing to clear his 'name'?
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Post by washyourhands on Dec 1, 2014 12:28:07 GMT
There is a precedent for this and that is Marlon King. He was jailed for sexual assault and placed on the sex offender's register amidst a litany of other crimes which he also did time for. And yet where does he rock up with a playing contract? Sheffield United of course! You couldn't make it up. Before this, both Hull and Middleborough employed him after the sexual assault jail term; he ended up back inside again whilst at Sheffield United. He is an odious excuse for a human being but why was his presence not noticed by Charlotte Webster or Jessica Ennis then? Her stand was already up?
My guess is that Evans' people will be using King to support his right to play again. He also had an appeal rejected. If Evans is found guilty again too both have forfeited the privelage to play football in my opinion. It is truly disgusting how King managed to find a football club time and again.
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Post by swimmityswim on Dec 1, 2014 13:05:23 GMT
I must be missing something here which Tatty alluded to earlier: he was found guilty by a court of law here already and he has had an appeal thrown out as well. According to lawyers in the media, he ain't likely to be successful either with this one. Falsely accusing someone of this crime is abhorrent and should also carry a custodial sentence. However, conversely, the reason many women do not come forward is because of the ingrained suspicion that they are 'tarts' or femme fatales who are trying to ensnare a man. Here's something I can't understand and I hope Bestie can explain. If Evans is successful with his appeal, will he be able to claim compensation for the paltry time he has already served as this would now be redundant? Or is he only appealing to clear his 'name'? by right he should have that time in "credit" for use against any future convictions!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2014 13:09:25 GMT
There is a precedent for this and that is Marlon King. He was jailed for sexual assault and placed on the sex offender's register amidst a litany of other crimes which he also did time for. And yet where does he rock up with a playing contract? Sheffield United of course! You couldn't make it up. Before this, both Hull and Middleborough employed him after the sexual assault jail term; he ended up back inside again whilst at Sheffield United. He is an odious excuse for a human being but why was his presence not noticed by Charlotte Webster or Jessica Ennis then? Her stand was already up? My guess is that Evans' people will be using King to support his right to play again. He also had an appeal rejected. If Evans is found guilty again too both have forfeited the privelage to play football in my opinion. It is truly disgusting how King managed to find a football club time and again. Well spotted fella, I had no idea. So smacking some random girl is fine..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 16:59:32 GMT
So Mr Evans is set to play for Oldham. The Oldham board have got brass balls I'll give them that.
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Post by _ on Jan 7, 2015 17:58:07 GMT
So Mr Evans is set to play for Oldham. The Oldham board have got brass balls I'll give them that. Fair play to Oldham by not giving in to the blackmail by the sponsors TBH, guilty or not, this witch hunt has been nauseating Hounded by the media putting pressure on clubs in England not to sign him, then a Maltese club want him and he's told he can't work outside the country So much for rehabilitating offenders and giving them a fresh start after they've done their time |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 7, 2015 19:16:16 GMT
Fuck rehabilitating rapists. They can rot and die in my view.
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Post by _ on Jan 7, 2015 19:56:20 GMT
Fuck rehabilitating rapists. They can rot and die in my view. I just meant that in this ultra PC age we live in the fact that the PFA is trying to hound him out of the game is out of order after he has served his time Did they do the same to Marlon King? .. or is his ethnicity a factor in avoiding the same treatment? .. and there is still a doubt Evans was guilty anyway I agree that any (proven without doubt) rapist should get a bullet to the back of the head though |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 20:54:44 GMT
Fuck rehabilitating rapists. They can rot and die in my view. I just meant that in this ultra PC age we live in the fact that the PFA is trying to hound him out of the game is out of order after he has served his time Did they to the same to Marlon King? .. or is his ethnicity a factor in avoiding the same treatment? .. and there is still a doubt Evans was guilty anyway I agree that any (proven without doubt) rapist should get a bullet to the back of the head though There's been drunk drivers that have killed people and are currently playing/ captaining teams. Think maybe this one is getting so much coverage because so many people think he's innocent. Gives the media something to play with. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 21:04:27 GMT
Very interesting to see how it goes at Oldham.
He'll get heaps of abuse at first, wonder if it'll calm down after a while though, or continue just as heated? He's going to need one hell of a thick skin to get through it. (Not sympathizing with him or anything just in case anyone reads that wrong, just pointing out how tough mentally he'll have to be to get through it).
After signing Lee Hughes too, Oldham really have shown they don't have any fucks to give haven't they. Not sure whether they should be criticised for signing these players or admired in the "Fuck what you all think, we do what we want anyway" attitude they clearly have.
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