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Post by Pixel on Dec 8, 2014 18:46:24 GMT
Rooney bigger impact than Scholes?  I cant agree with that, not in a million years. IMO Rooney has been consistently good and occasionally great. Like i said in my OP all the recent greats of the game all say Scholesy was the best player they played against, never heard anyone say that about Rooney he's the hardest worker in training  I take it all back then  |
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Post by _ on Dec 8, 2014 18:47:30 GMT
Behave. Just, I just, just ... Rooney has no place in any 'Top #' list ahead of Paul Scholes. If we are talking about as players and all comps then no you are right Scholes is the more complete player. But based just on the Prem Rooney has a made a bigger impact than Scholes. In which alternative dimension?  |
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Post by smithy2 on Dec 8, 2014 19:02:36 GMT
If we are talking about as players and all comps then no you are right Scholes is the more complete player. But based just on the Prem Rooney has a made a bigger impact than Scholes. Rooney bigger impact than Scholes? I cant agree with that, not in a million years. IMO Rooney has been consistently good and occasionally great. Like i said in my OP all the recent greats of the game all say Scholesy was the best player they played against, never heard anyone say that about Rooney You dont have to agree with me, its my top 5. Rooney is the second highest scorer of all time and he isn't even 30 yet. |
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Post by Bestie on Dec 8, 2014 19:05:55 GMT
Behave. Just, I just, just ... Rooney has no place in any 'Top #' list ahead of Paul Scholes. if you look at pure numbers... he probably would make it into a top 5. but looking at those same numbers would mean that all 5 of the top 5 would be strikers, and anybody that knows the game knows that the best 5 players to ever play in the PL were not all strikers. scholes definitely in, in my opinion. giggs too, due to the graphic someone posted the other day of his goals/assists record over his career, and in particular that bonkers year (2003/2004 IIRC). He really wouldn't. This isn't an anti-Rooney thing, this is a basic level of footballing talent comparison thing. |
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Post by Bestie on Dec 8, 2014 19:07:35 GMT
Behave. Just, I just, just ... Rooney has no place in any 'Top #' list ahead of Paul Scholes. If we are talking about as players and all comps then no you are right Scholes is the more complete player. But based just on the Prem Rooney has a made a bigger impact than Scholes. This is insanity at it's most pure. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 8, 2014 19:10:58 GMT
Picking the best PL player is impossible, I don't mind discussions about the best PL team ever, at least you can reason about that. Scholes for me is the best player i've seen play for the club. The man was a complete one off in English football and we have no chance of replacing him, theres only one player like him and he's in his mid 30s and playing for Barcelona.
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Post by smithy2 on Dec 8, 2014 19:14:45 GMT
If we are talking about as players and all comps then no you are right Scholes is the more complete player. But based just on the Prem Rooney has a made a bigger impact than Scholes. This is insanity at it's most pure. Says the man who thinks paddy and Mutv are the mouthpieces for the Rooney conspiracy. Anyway as I said Rooney has scored nearly 200 goals in the premier leauge and you are going to see his name on the these lists in the future. It's not just about " talent" its about numbers and Rooney has them both hence why he makes my list. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 8, 2014 19:17:15 GMT
This is insanity at it's most pure. Says the man who thinks paddy and Mutv are the mouthpieces for the Rooney conspiracy. Anyway as I said Rooney has scored nearly 200 goals in the premier leauge and you are going to see his name on the these lists in the future. It's not just about " talent" its about numbers and Rooney has them both hence why he makes my list. While I agree he has been playing at the top level since he was 16, so he's had a long shift. The goal to game ratio is a big thing in my opinion. |
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Post by Bestie on Dec 8, 2014 23:48:44 GMT
This is insanity at it's most pure. Anyway as I said Rooney has scored nearly 200 goals in the premier leauge and you are going to see his name on the these lists in the future. It's not just about " talent" its about numbers and Rooney has them both hence why he makes my list. No, I say Paddy Crerand and MUTV are mouthpieces for the club's PR spin on things. Which they are. One such PR spin exercise happens to be Wayne Rooney is vitally important. Which happens to be bollocks. Scholes is second to no player on the planet of his generation. Possibly any other generation too. |
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Post by Tatty on Dec 9, 2014 9:47:07 GMT
Says the man who thinks paddy and Mutv are the mouthpieces for the Rooney conspiracy. Anyway as I said Rooney has scored nearly 200 goals in the premier leauge and you are going to see his name on the these lists in the future. It's not just about " talent" its about numbers and Rooney has them both hence why he makes my list. No, I say Paddy Crerand and MUTV are mouthpieces for the club's PR spin on things. Which they are. One such PR spin exercise happens to be Wayne Rooney is vitally important. Which happens to be bollocks. Scholes is second to no player on the planet of his generation. Possibly any other generation too. Zidane... |
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Post by ratbag on Dec 9, 2014 10:31:33 GMT
No, I say Paddy Crerand and MUTV are mouthpieces for the club's PR spin on things. Which they are. One such PR spin exercises happens to be Wayne Rooney is vitally important. Which happens to be bollocks. Scholes is second to no player on the planet of his generation. Possibly any other generation too. Zidane... ...said Scholes was the best...but maybe he was just being modest...hell of a head butt too... |
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Post by NR7 on Dec 9, 2014 12:38:21 GMT
Scholesy is the best I saw since I started following United and the PL.
Henry has to be in any top 5 PL players list.
Nev must have been pissed picking CC ahead of Cantona.
PHC had more impact than Scholesy? Jesus wept..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 15:17:27 GMT
Though I had shit in my eyes but did I just read that Rooney has made more of an impact in the premier league than Scholes??  |
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Post by RedRupert on Dec 10, 2014 12:02:52 GMT
Says the man who thinks paddy and Mutv are the mouthpieces for the Rooney conspiracy. Anyway as I said Rooney has scored nearly 200 goals in the premier leauge and you are going to see his name on the these lists in the future. It's not just about " talent" its about numbers and Rooney has them both hence why he makes my list. No, I say Paddy Crerand and MUTV are mouthpieces for the club's PR spin on things. Which they are. One such PR spin exercise happens to be Wayne Rooney is vitally important. Which happens to be bollocks. Scholes is second to no player on the planet of his generation. Possibly any other generation too.Nah mate - that player is in your avatar thingy |
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Post by CaajScot on Dec 10, 2014 14:16:01 GMT
No, I say Paddy Crerand and MUTV are mouthpieces for the club's PR spin on things. Which they are. One such PR spin exercise happens to be Wayne Rooney is vitally important. Which happens to be bollocks. Scholes is second to no player on the planet of his generation. Possibly any other generation too. Zidane...
“YOU RARELY COME across the complete footballer, but Scholes is as close to it as you can get,” said Zinedine Zidane back in 2010. Footballing praise doesn’t come much higher.
For the second [and final] time in two seasons, Paul Scholes has announced an impending retirement. The Salford native has scored 102 goals in 466 games for Manchester United and, along with manager Alex Ferguson, will get a royal send-off at Old Trafford this afternoon.
“He’s a role model,” said Barcelona midfielder Xavi. “For me, he’s the best central midfielder I’ve seen in the last 15, 20 years. He’s spectacular, he has it all: the last pass, goals, he’s strong, he doesn’t lose the ball, vision. If he’d been Spanish, he might have been rated more highly. Players love him.” |
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