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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 15:26:49 GMT
The unmentioned variable for Cavani is he's going through a rough time personally with his father's situation. to be honest i had a feeling he'd see red last night, he seemed on edge early on and it just intensified as the match progressed. there is no need for a variable. He stuck his finger up his arse and then had the cheek (pun?) to give it a jiggle |
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Post by JamBritRed on Jun 25, 2015 16:32:13 GMT
The unmentioned variable for Cavani is he's going through a rough time personally with his father's situation. to be honest i had a feeling he'd see red last night, he seemed on edge early on and it just intensified as the match progressed. there is no need for a variable. He stuck his finger up his arse and then had the cheek (pun?) to give it a jiggle i get the impression people aren't aware of the various ploys professional athletes will utilise to get under an opponents skin. this is simple, and has happened many times before, and will happen again. is it wrong? absolutely! but then so is stomping on an opponents foot, or giving an opponent a cheeky elbow when jostling for a set piece. its all mittens off when the ref isn't looking, and i suspect Canavi has dealt with worse coming from South American football where these things tend to be a little more prevalent. so in the end, yes i think the situation surrounding his father has caused him to be less relaxed, and affected his game. what the Chilean player did was wrong, but i truly believe Cavani would have been able to manage the situation differently had he not already been in the wrong state of mind going into the match, as was evident quite early on with how aggressive he was with the assistant referee (a scenario that could have been a Red card in itself had that been a European match) |
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Post by smithy2 on Jun 25, 2015 17:04:41 GMT
there is no need for a variable. He stuck his finger up his arse and then had the cheek (pun?) to give it a jiggle i get the impression people aren't aware of the various ploys professional athletes will utilise to get under an opponents skin. this is simple, and has happened many times before, and will happen again. is it wrong? absolutely! but then so is stomping on an opponents foot, or giving an opponent a cheeky elbow when jostling for a set piece. its all mittens off when the ref isn't looking, and i suspect Canavi has dealt with worse coming from South American football where these things tend to be a little more prevalent. so in the end, yes i think the situation surrounding his father has caused him to be less relaxed, and affected his game. what the Chilean player did was wrong, but i truly believe Cavani would have been able to manage the situation differently had he not already been in the wrong state of mind going into the match, as was evident quite early on with how aggressive he was with the assistant referee (a scenario that could have been a Red card in itself had that been a European match) Agreed, I played rugby until I was 26 at a fairly decent level and some of the stuff that goes on in the ruck/scrum would make a lot of peoples skin crawl. |
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Post by CaajScot on Jun 25, 2015 18:00:03 GMT
i get the impression people aren't aware of the various ploys professional athletes will utilise to get under an opponents skin. this is simple, and has happened many times before, and will happen again. is it wrong? absolutely! but then so is stomping on an opponents foot, or giving an opponent a cheeky elbow when jostling for a set piece. its all mittens off when the ref isn't looking, and i suspect Canavi has dealt with worse coming from South American football where these things tend to be a little more prevalent. so in the end, yes i think the situation surrounding his father has caused him to be less relaxed, and affected his game. what the Chilean player did was wrong, but i truly believe Cavani would have been able to manage the situation differently had he not already been in the wrong state of mind going into the match, as was evident quite early on with how aggressive he was with the assistant referee (a scenario that could have been a Red card in itself had that been a European match) Agreed, I played rugby until I was 26 at a fairly decent level and some of the stuff that goes on in the ruck/scrum would make a lot of peoples skin crawl. Yerp. Played rugger in my army days. In a ruck or scrum, fingers in eyes, spitting, a kick in the bollocks on the refs blind side etc. No tv in my days or recordings where the ref could look at a big screen and ask for playback views or a panel sitting after a match and viewing recordings of matches about an incident. You just got on with it and after the match went up too the NAAFI bar for a good old piss up with the team that you were kicking shite out of and they kicking shit out of you and have a good old laugh and sing song. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 25, 2015 20:10:15 GMT
i get the impression people aren't aware of the various ploys professional athletes will utilise to get under an opponents skin. this is simple, and has happened many times before, and will happen again. is it wrong? absolutely! but then so is stomping on an opponents foot, or giving an opponent a cheeky elbow when jostling for a set piece. its all mittens off when the ref isn't looking, and i suspect Canavi has dealt with worse coming from South American football where these things tend to be a little more prevalent. so in the end, yes i think the situation surrounding his father has caused him to be less relaxed, and affected his game. what the Chilean player did was wrong, but i truly believe Cavani would have been able to manage the situation differently had he not already been in the wrong state of mind going into the match, as was evident quite early on with how aggressive he was with the assistant referee (a scenario that could have been a Red card in itself had that been a European match) Agreed, I played rugby until I was 26 at a fairly decent level and some of the stuff that goes on in the ruck/scrum would make a lot of peoples skin crawl. Yep, same as myself. I was a winger and back when I played backs weren't expected to do as much rucking as they are now. Bad things happened in there if you weren't used to it. Real bad.... |
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Post by . on Jun 25, 2015 23:58:34 GMT
Agreed, I played rugby until I was 26 at a fairly decent level and some of the stuff that goes on in the ruck/scrum would make a lot of peoples skin crawl. Yep, same as myself. I was a winger and back when I played backs weren't expected to do as much rucking as they are now. Bad things happened in there if you weren't used to it. Real bad.... Back when I was a lad growing up in the English countryside, sticking your finger in an opposing player's rectum and giving it a spin was how we said "good day!". People today are too sensitive, and footballers are mollycoddled! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 0:11:48 GMT
Forget all that. You should be well within your rights to hurt a guy who tickles your asshole. End of
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Post by ZlattackRed on Jun 26, 2015 4:50:50 GMT
With due respect to all, anyone playing a sport for the local team & Cavani - Jara playing for their respective countries are completely different things. At lower levels, shit happens because its not highly regulated. These pathetic acts should attract retrospective punishment to the tune of ban for a year or two. How can someone bloody get away in today's world of extensive media coverage & glare of millions? FFS
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Post by . on Jun 26, 2015 7:06:52 GMT
With due respect to all, anyone playing a sport for the local team & Cavani - Jara playing for their respective countries are completely different things. At lower levels, shit happens because its not highly regulated. These pathetic acts should attract retrospective punishment to the tune of ban for a year or two. How can someone bloody get away in today's world of extensive media coverage & glare of millions? FFS Evans got 6 matches for spitting in the vicinity of an opponent, so actually getting your finger into a dude's arsehole up to the third knuckle should be good for at least that, you'd think. UPDATE: Jara has been banned for the rest of the tournament. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 26, 2015 9:32:21 GMT
Forget all that. You should be well within your rights to hurt a guy who tickles your asshole. End of Spitting and the whole finger up the nethers are both offences that the recipient can retaliate with impunity for imo. I'd have no problem with one of our lads lamping someone if they did it to them. |
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Post by CaajScot on Jun 26, 2015 9:41:07 GMT
26/06/2015 10:26, Report by Nathan Thomas
Di Maria and Rojo set for Argentina vs Colombia
Manchester United stars Angel Di Maria and Marcos Rojo are busy preparing for Argentina's Copa America quarter-final with Colombia, as Gerardo Martino's side continue their pursuit of a 15th continental title on Friday night.
Argentina qualified for the last-eight with a game to spare and without really hitting top form in Chile, where the competition is being hosted. Reds team-mates Di Maria and Rojo started all three group games and the last outing, a 1-0 win over Jamaica, featured a fine display from our no. 7 as he hit the bar and assisted Gonzalo Higuain’s 11th-minute winner. Friday’s quarter-final against Radamel Falcao's Colombia will kick-off at 20:30 local time and 23:30 BST. It’s a clash which both sides may have wished to avoid, but with a dazzling array of attacking talent on display, this match could be a thriller for the neutral. Elsewhere, and Angelo Henriquez’s Chile continued to impress in their home tournament by progressing to the semi-final stage via a 1-0 win over Uruguay on Wednesday night. The United youngster, who scored 29 goals in 37 appearances for Dinamo Zagreb last season, has had to make do with a place on the bench in each of the hosts’ games so far, however he did enjoy a 45 minute run out in the 5-0 group stage win over Bolivia after replacing Arsenal’s Alexis Sanchez at half-time. www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jun/Di-Maria-and-Rojo-prepare-for-Copa-America-quarter-final.aspx
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jun 26, 2015 9:50:54 GMT
I suggest we send Argentina to be studied. Even when they have fantastic teams, they lift little to no silverware. However, I would be really surprised if Colombia knocked them out.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Jun 26, 2015 9:53:27 GMT
Bacca and Sanchez suspended today against Argentina by the way
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Post by Stew on Jun 26, 2015 10:33:21 GMT
I suggest we send Argentina to be studied. Even when they have fantastic teams, they lift little to no silverware. However, I would be really surprised if Colombia knocked them out. Their managers recently haven't been great. That, as we sadly know, makes a big difference even to good players. |
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Post by swimmityswim on Jun 26, 2015 10:46:36 GMT
I suggest we send Argentina to be studied. Even when they have fantastic teams, they lift little to no silverware. However, I would be really surprised if Colombia knocked them out. Their managers recently haven't been great. That, as we sadly know, makes a big difference even to good players. same with brazil... |
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