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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 11:56:12 GMT
You know he nearly died due to kidney disease? His mate was a match and donated one of his. Yeah horrible disease that. Shame really because that stopped him from becoming the best ever. He did try to mount a comeback I remember afterwards with the Cardiff Blues but that didn't go to well. He'll still go down as the best winger though IMO. Shane-o being a close 2nd  |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 19, 2015 12:21:56 GMT
Bryce Lawrence, 2011. Hands fucking down, a perfect example of how not officiating the breakdown can lead to an absolute nightmare of a game. Up and til that last botched offside call, which in real-time seemed harsh but correct by the laws of the game, I didn't think Joubert had such a nightmare performance tbh. It was only after replay upon replays were focusing on the ball making contact with the Australian that it even became an issue, then the emotion spread through the media and it was suddenly a 'nightmare'performance'- there seems to be two calls he failed to get right, the TMO-referral isn't even something you'd usually expect to take place - it's tough, but having watched Joubert throughout his career he's probably one of the top referees in the Southern Hemisphere, that's not even a stretch. Feel sorry for Scotland, brave performance. It was the way he ran straight down the tunnel at the end which made things worse. Coward. Plus the fact that he got the call wrong to begin with doesn't help. IRB has even come out and said the prevailing laws prevented him from referring to the TMO and, like I said in my initial post, it happened pretty fast in real time. Sure, a mistake. But saying the entire match was blown badly and it was some nightmare performance is a bit harsh. Check out the appeals around him for that decision too, bottled it but akin to what happens in football every week with a much tougher decision. The early exit is a bit bizarre though, I see there are suggestions he'd needed the bathroom! |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 19, 2015 13:14:34 GMT
It was the way he ran straight down the tunnel at the end which made things worse. Coward. Plus the fact that he got the call wrong to begin with doesn't help. IRB has even come out and said the prevailing laws prevented him from referring to the TMO and, like I said in my initial post, it happened pretty fast in real time. Sure, a mistake. But saying the entire match was blown badly and it was some nightmare performance is a bit harsh. Check out the appeals around him for that decision too, bottled it but akin to what happens in football every week with a much tougher decision. The early exit is a bit bizarre though, I see there are suggestions he'd needed the bathroom! Don't care what the rules say about referring it to the TMO. In a World Cup quarter final he got the biggest decision wrong. Then he fled. If he needed a piss why didn't he come back out afterwards? Or go into the Scotland dressing room to shake hands? He's a spineless tosser. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 13:15:10 GMT
Joubert got the match deciding moment wrong. He wasn't terrible for the entire game, that award goes to Wayne Barnes. Whoever put that clown in charge of the Welsh game needs shooting.
Beating the Aussies with 13 men was difficult but hearing South Africa with 16 men was even harder.
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Post by swimmityswim on Oct 19, 2015 14:19:16 GMT
i'm by no means a huge rugby fan but i watched SAF/wales, NZ/France and IRE/Argies this weekend as well as a couple other pool matches.
is it just me or is there a huge inconsistency with how the refs play (or allow it to play) the breakdown? some refs (i noticed garces in the IRE game and joubert in previous games) are really quick to blow for holding on, whereas others (nigel owens in basically every game i've seen him ref) give it time to develop and avoid given unnecessary penalties?
is it just me or is that the case? and if not just me, is that normal? and how difficult is it to play with that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 14:38:35 GMT
i'm by no means a huge rugby fan but i watched SAF/wales, NZ/France and IRE/Argies this weekend as well as a couple other pool matches. is it just me or is there a huge inconsistency with how the refs play (or allow it to play) the breakdown? some refs (i noticed garces in the IRE game and joubert in previous games) are really quick to blow for holding on, whereas others (nigel owens in basically every game i've seen him ref) give it time to develop and avoid given unnecessary penalties? is it just me or is that the case? and if not just me, is that normal? and how difficult is it to play with that? There is a difference with some refs I've noticed that for years. Nigel Owens is the Collina equivalent in rugby. He's the best referee innrufby at present and takes no shit. Joubert, Barnes and Roland (Irish/French cunt that he is) are where the problems lie. The TMO is there for a reason. To settle desputed calls and to minimize the fuck ups, so when they fuck up and don't use these systems especially when they cost teams big i.e yesterday then these officials should be dealt with. But the players still have to show respect when these idiots can't do their job properly. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 14:44:27 GMT
I was gutted with the welsh result. Proper gutted but I was more gutted for the Scots. Written off by everyone and they deserved to go through.
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Post by swimmityswim on Oct 19, 2015 14:49:31 GMT
i'm by no means a huge rugby fan but i watched SAF/wales, NZ/France and IRE/Argies this weekend as well as a couple other pool matches. is it just me or is there a huge inconsistency with how the refs play (or allow it to play) the breakdown? some refs (i noticed garces in the IRE game and joubert in previous games) are really quick to blow for holding on, whereas others (nigel owens in basically every game i've seen him ref) give it time to develop and avoid given unnecessary penalties? is it just me or is that the case? and if not just me, is that normal? and how difficult is it to play with that? There is a difference with some refs I've noticed that for years. Nigel Owens is the Collina equivalent in rugby. He's the best referee innrufby at present and takes no shit. Joubert, Barnes and Roland (Irish/French cunt that he is) are where the problems lie. The TMO is there for a reason. To settle desputed calls and to minimize the fuck ups, so when they fuck up and don't use these systems especially when they cost teams big i.e yesterday then these officials should be dealt with. But the players still have to show respect when these idiots can't do their job properly. i mean that not so much in terms of refs being right/wrong moreso their style of refereeing. it's the matter of giving the tackler that extra second to roll away and keep the ball in play rather than immediately blowing because the tackler landed on top of the runner and couldn't get away when 10 other players came barreling in on top of him. ive read here some people have a problem with owens either personally or his style of refereeing (i dont know to be honest) but personally as an extremely casual viewer and from my own experiences playing football, i love watching or playing with a ref as vocal and descriptive as him. treats the players like grownups and they noticeably have a lot of respect for him. even if they disagree with his decision they know exactly why it was given. he's also not afraid to call players out for their actions (eg. that scottish lad with the dive). that being said there's been some cracking games, nz just awesome against france and i was not expecting that style of play from argentina. i think even with POC, sexton and o'mahony they probably would have beaten us. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 19, 2015 14:52:12 GMT
i'm by no means a huge rugby fan but i watched SAF/wales, NZ/France and IRE/Argies this weekend as well as a couple other pool matches. is it just me or is there a huge inconsistency with how the refs play (or allow it to play) the breakdown? some refs (i noticed garces in the IRE game and joubert in previous games) are really quick to blow for holding on, whereas others (nigel owens in basically every game i've seen him ref) give it time to develop and avoid given unnecessary penalties? is it just me or is that the case? and if not just me, is that normal? and how difficult is it to play with that? There's traditionally been quite a difference between refs from the two hemispheres. |
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Post by Bestie on Oct 19, 2015 15:17:48 GMT
i'm by no means a huge rugby fan but i watched SAF/wales, NZ/France and IRE/Argies this weekend as well as a couple other pool matches. is it just me or is there a huge inconsistency with how the refs play (or allow it to play) the breakdown? some refs (i noticed garces in the IRE game and joubert in previous games) are really quick to blow for holding on, whereas others (nigel owens in basically every game i've seen him ref) give it time to develop and avoid given unnecessary penalties? is it just me or is that the case? and if not just me, is that normal? and how difficult is it to play with that? There is a difference with some refs I've noticed that for years. Nigel Owens is the Collina equivalent in rugby. He's the best referee innrufby at present and takes no shit. Joubert, Barnes and Roland (Irish/French cunt that he is) are where the problems lie. The TMO is there for a reason. To settle desputed calls and to minimize the fuck ups, so when they fuck up and don't use these systems especially when they cost teams big i.e yesterday then these officials should be dealt with. But the players still have to show respect when these idiots can't do their job properly. Nigel Owens is a wanker. He is not the best referee in the world, no way. I don't know every other referee in world rugby but can say for a fact Owens isn't the best. I hate seeing im refereeing in games with my teams. |
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Post by CaajScot on Oct 19, 2015 15:32:07 GMT
Craig Joubert: World Rugby chief defends Scotland referee
19 October 2015
Last updated at 14:50
Referee Craig Joubert's run from the pitch at the end of Scotland's defeat by Australia may have been prompted by crowd "hostility", says World Rugby chief executive Brett Gosper.
Joubert, 37, awarded a controversial penalty that gave the Wallabies a 35-34 win in the quarter-final at Twickenham. At full-time, he ran from the field without shaking hands with the players. "When you have a hostile 82,000 people, for whatever reason, who knows how that affects behaviour?" said Gosper. "I'm sure as a referee he sensed a bit of hostility." Former Scotland captain Gavin Hastings described Joubert's swift exit from the field as the "the worst thing I have seen on a rugby field in a very long time". Matt Dawson, part of England's World Cup-winning side of 2003, said it was "disrespectful to the game".  Scotland director of rugby Scott Johnson (to the right of the flag) at full-time as Joubert (behind, to Johnson's right) heads to the dressing room
"Maybe he was keen to get to the bathroom, who knows?" joked Gosper to BBC Radio 5 live.
"Craig Joubert is a superb referee and has been for a long time and he's a good man. There will be reasons for whatever Craig did.
"We do a full review of the referees post-game, and that process is under way at the moment."
Media reports in New Zealand and Australia have claimed a bottle was thrown from the crowd at Joubert as he left the field.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34572066
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Oct 19, 2015 16:17:30 GMT
Was the Joubert decision incorrect? Scottish player inadvertently plays the ball forward and another Scottish player attempts to play it. Is this not offside and a penalty? I was devastated for the scots. I was screaming at the TV but was the decision incorrect? Im not sure.
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Oct 19, 2015 16:21:14 GMT
Actually bin my previous post. Ball is propelled forward off aussie arm:
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Post by CaajScot on Oct 19, 2015 16:21:56 GMT
All you Rugby Union fans out there in ruggerland. Never pasted the whole content but it is an interesting read if you go into the link.
Tom Fordyce CHIEF SPORTS WRITER, BBC SPORT
 19 October 2015
Last updated at 16:31  Rugby World Cup 2015: Is this the death of European rugby?Wales' brave defence sprung late by the Springboks. France eviscerated by an All Blacks assault. Ireland torn apart by the Pumas. Scotland jumped at the death by the Wallabies.
Amid all that independent lament, a collective failure. In six of the seven World Cups there have been two northern hemisphere teams in the semi-finals. Never before have there been none.
It may not be the death of European rugby, but it is a party where the hosts and neighbours have all gone to sleep early. What has gone wrong, and what must change if the north is to rise again?.................... more.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34574740
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 19, 2015 16:22:06 GMT
Was the Joubert decision incorrect? Scottish player inadvertently plays the ball forward and another Scottish player attempts to play it. Is this not offside and a penalty? I was devastated for the scots. I was screaming at the TV but was the decision incorrect? Im not sure. Slow motion replays suggest the last touch came off an Australian, though whether or not the first touch or any touch by a Scottish player would still activate the offside ruling I don't know. In real time, especially considering all the Ausies around the incident were up in arms, it looked an unfortunate but fair call. |
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