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Post by CaajScot on Oct 19, 2015 16:50:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 18:17:31 GMT
Each to their own Matt. But IMO Owens is by far the best and has been in this world cup so far.
As for Joubert being defended well that was always coming. Its like footie, doesn't matter what fuck up they make they will never blame the ref but will always condemn anyone who criticises the mistakes.
IRB and the FA are a bunch of gutless cunts.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 19, 2015 18:55:08 GMT
They're all saying it should be referred to the TMO even though that's not part of the rules.
Also - just saying, but if you have a line-out on the 10m with literally minutes left to play, you make that line-out stick.
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Post by Stew on Oct 19, 2015 19:42:47 GMT
This is from 2011 but is worth a look:
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Post by Stew on Oct 19, 2015 19:47:12 GMT
They're all saying it should be referred to the TMO even though that's not part of the rules. Also - just saying, but if you have a line-out on the 10m with literally minutes left to play, you make that line-out stick. It makes no difference to Joubert's howler but that was an awful decision by Scotland. You learn that at U 12s. It's raining, it's the last minute, the ball to the tail has so many elements to it that can go wrong, it's not worth the gamble. Crazy. That's your middle jumper's ball all day long. Has to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 20:04:33 GMT
The line out was poor granted, however the decision should have been from the TMO. Joubert didnt even entertain the idea. There is a boas towards opposite hemispheres at times 2011 was a perfect example. But the TMO should have also interrupted as they have on a few occasions in this world cup.
Its awful that some decisions cost teams so much yet receive ZERO criticism for it. Pretty obvious he fucked up because ran off the pitch. He knew what he did but didn't have the balls to admit it.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2015 8:50:28 GMT
This is from 2011 but is worth a look: That is diabolical. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 9:25:49 GMT
So that's 2 world cups running now where an official has screwed a home nation team out of a world cup run.
Funny that you don't see this with the southern hemisphere sides.
Joubert has been confirmed as playing no further part in the world cup anyway so that's that, little too late though.
Good to see rugby bosses condemning Joubert's decision as well instead of being gutless cunts like the IRB are being.
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Post by CaajScot on Oct 20, 2015 9:33:51 GMT
So that's 2 world cups running now where an official has screwed a home nation team out of a world cup run. Funny that you don't see this with the southern hemisphere sides. Joubert has been confirmed as playing no further part in the world cup anyway so that's that, little too late though.
Good to see rugby bosses condemning Joubert's decision as well instead of being gutless cunts like the IRB are being.Yerp. But I wonder if something else happens in the remaining games like this one? Rugby World Cup 2015: 'Craig Joubert wrong to award penalty'
19 October 2015
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Referee Craig Joubert was wrong to award a crucial 78th-minute penalty against Scotland in Sunday's World Cup quarter-final defeat by Australia, says World Rugby.
Scotland led 34-32 at Twickenham when Jon Welsh was ruled deliberately offside for playing the ball after a knock-on by a team-mate.
The governing body said that, because Australia's Nick Phipps touched the ball, "the appropriate decision should have been a scrum to Australia for the original knock-on".
Scotland lost 35-34 after Bernard Foley kicked the penalty.
The statement added that South African Joubert "could not refer to the television match official (TMO) in this case and therefore had to rely on what he saw in real time".www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34576756 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 9:43:52 GMT
2bh I'm not bothered who wins it now or what happens. The Scottish result has kind of put a downer on it for me now, just like it did 4 years ago when Allain Roland screwed us. I couldn't enjoy the rest of it, even the 3rd place playoff with the Aussies, there was always that bitter taste afterwards.
I admit all officials will make mistakes, they're not machines...but my problem is their lack of respect for the game by not admitting to their faults or even apologising for then. As in football or any sport, it seems these officials get too much backing and only punish the ones that criitcise the mistakes that ultimately cost some teams big.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 20, 2015 9:59:22 GMT
2bh I'm not bothered who wins it now or what happens. The Scottish result has kind of put a downer on it for me now, just like it did 4 years ago when Allain Roland screwed us. I couldn't enjoy the rest of it, even the 3rd place playoff with the Aussies, there was always that bitter taste afterwards. I admit all officials will make mistakes, they're not machines...but my problem is their lack of respect for the game by not admitting to their faults or even apologising for then. As in football or any sport, it seems these officials get too much backing and only punish the ones that criitcise the mistakes that ultimately cost some teams big. Hang on, Wales had that coming after blatently cheating against Ireland. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 10:04:44 GMT
2bh I'm not bothered who wins it now or what happens. The Scottish result has kind of put a downer on it for me now, just like it did 4 years ago when Allain Roland screwed us. I couldn't enjoy the rest of it, even the 3rd place playoff with the Aussies, there was always that bitter taste afterwards. I admit all officials will make mistakes, they're not machines...but my problem is their lack of respect for the game by not admitting to their faults or even apologising for then. As in football or any sport, it seems these officials get too much backing and only punish the ones that criitcise the mistakes that ultimately cost some teams big. Hang on, Wales had that coming after blatently cheating against Ireland. Lol we didn't cheat. I think your mistaking that for a 6 nations game  . Either way we deserved to beat you lot that day. Had we kept Warburton on the pitch I have no doubt we would have been in the final. 2011 was our year and we got screwed, as did Scotland. Proper gutted for them, did themselves proud but pride gets hurt when you know you deserved the win. This is why I like Owens btw, straight the point no messing. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 20, 2015 10:04:55 GMT
How the fuck is no one even aware of Bryce Lawrence's shithouse performance in 2011?
I mean, the guy got removed from the IRB panel of referees and retired the next year specifically because of that.
Joubert made a bad call, sure, perhaps one or two 50/50s but he wasn't biased by any means from a neutral perspective. I wanted Scotland to win as much as you guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2015 10:08:23 GMT
How the fuck is no one even aware of Bryce Lawrence's shithouse performance in 2011? I mean, the guy got removed from the IRB panel of referees and retired the next year specifically because of that. Joubert made a bad call, sure, perhaps one or two 50/50s but he wasn't biased by any means from a neutral perspective. I wanted Scotland to win as much as you guys. I'm aware of it but I moaned about that back then. This is now and unfortunately Joubert made a call that ultimately decided the fate of a result in a world cup quarter final, that's where the big issue is. Not saying he was bias but he fucked up and refuses to admit so, that's where the problem is for me. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Oct 20, 2015 10:13:16 GMT
How the fuck is no one even aware of Bryce Lawrence's shithouse performance in 2011? I mean, the guy got removed from the IRB panel of referees and retired the next year specifically because of that. Joubert made a bad call, sure, perhaps one or two 50/50s but he wasn't biased by any means from a neutral perspective. I wanted Scotland to win as much as you guys. I'm aware of it but I moaned about that back then. This is now and unfortunately Joubert made a call that ultimately decided the fate of a result in a world cup quarter final, that's where the big issue is. Not saying he was bias but he fucked up and refuses to admit so, that's where the problem is for me. Yeah we're on the same page Paul, i broke two knuckles watching Bryce fcking Lawrence singlehandedly knock the Boks out at the QF stage in 2011. It was so blatantly poor, so hard to watch - even worse was that he did it for the entire match, the rucks became a free for all with lads swimming around in there at leisure. |
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