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Post by DiegoRed on Nov 26, 2016 17:18:08 GMT
Keeping up the fine form of getting sod all at Anfield. Still wondering how this fraud was given one of the biggest jobs in football. There are still people who think he should have been given more time. Still, to this day, there are people who believe that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 17:36:27 GMT
Keeping up the fine form of getting sod all at Anfield. Still wondering how this fraud was given one of the biggest jobs in football. There are still people who think he should have been given more time. Still, to this day, there are people who believe that. I wonder what serial DM defender, Jimbonda thinks about it.
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Post by Karma on Nov 26, 2016 18:05:06 GMT
I want to know who voted yes in the poll.
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Post by DiegoRed on Nov 27, 2016 16:25:23 GMT
There are still people who think he should have been given more time. Still, to this day, there are people who believe that. I wonder what serial DM defender, Jimbonda thinks about it. Even he could not defend him anymore surely. His utter failure twice since he left has to be all the proof anyone needs.
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Post by grandpaTJ on Dec 20, 2016 19:52:06 GMT
Following Stres' link and the train of thought **
With both Moyes and LvG I and a great many others, IMO, started in earnest support of the managers that were picked by the board to take United back to the place they belonged, polishing silverware. It was like a manic rollercoaster ride, up and down, wanting to believe, but match by match, watching closely, and then suffereing through TiVos looking for positives and not finding them, support turned into bitter, unadulterated disgust. Especially when one manager said United needed to be more like ManShitty. Out the door was the only way for that to end, and should have ended that way sooner than it did and fook a bunch of more suffering by giving time to the man that was not going to be anything but wasted.
LvG, much easier to support, and much much easier to like, because no matter what, he was "likable" though his decisions, especially around not playing quality players when they should have been played IE Ander "The little Warrior" Hererra) In the end, regardless of how angry LvG made many fans, they wished him well and bore no real animosity, everyone understands that some partnerships just don't work.
Fook Moyes, he of the "lets make United more like Shitty mentality" Last thing any fan who was frustrated and totally bewildered by how Moyes operated needed to hear was the muppet saying our club needed to emulate that bunch of fooking buy me my trophy fookheads.
ZZ, from my personal point of view, trying to instill good feelings about the Bug-eyed rat would fail miserably, because he not only did things which hurt the club, he blamed the very style, and foundation of what makes so many people United fans for life, for his own lack of quality. I think you'll be very hard pressed to find anyone who feels like me (an I am sure I am not alone) that will be willing to hear debate on an opinion formed the way that this particular feeling about Moyes was formred.
I enjoy reading everyone's opinion, but this is one debate/subject I admit I am totally close minded about. an I do try to keep open mind because that is how I learn.
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Post by Karma on Dec 21, 2016 0:55:41 GMT
He pisses me off more since he's left than he did at United which is some achievement. I actually felt some sadness when he left moreso because he was completely out of his depth and I bought the stand by your manager guff.
Mind you his lapdogs in the press and his etched face pleading for sympathy for the difficult job he had has changed that. Sunderland have had their fifteen minutes of fame and it's time to say au revoir Davie Boy and his poznan dancing small time gobshites.
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Post by Karma on Dec 23, 2016 16:53:21 GMT
Moaning Moyes blithering about being hard done by again I see.
Bad enough we have to be reminded of this brain fart without listening to him whining about his unfortunate time here.
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Post by RAZ on Dec 23, 2016 17:09:02 GMT
Moaning Moyes blithering about being hard done by again I see. Bad enough we have to be reminded of this brain fart without listening to him whining about his unfortunate time here. Piece of shit that man.i'm working hard to forget he even managed our wonderful club. A shellacking from the team and the fans is all he deserves
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Post by Bestie on Dec 23, 2016 17:35:33 GMT
Moaning Moyes blithering about being hard done by again I see. Bad enough we have to be reminded of this brain fart without listening to him whining about his unfortunate time here. He may go fucking jump. You would have been given more time if you weren't a spineless hopeless small time loser.
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Dec 23, 2016 17:51:19 GMT
Funny how some internet bloggers, self-claimed pundits write ludicrous comparisons between Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho based on statistics. Statistics are only a useful tool to analyse reality, but nothing more. It does not mirror one's ability to manage a team. Winning the dressing room, having a realistic plan for success, tactics and a good staff are some of the requirements to be a good manager and Moyes had none of those.
And that's why I pin down Van Gaal was far better than Moyes and José better than Louis, despite what "stats after 10 games – mourinho worse than van Gaal and Moyes" or whatever bullcrap people use as clickbaits.
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Post by Karma on Dec 23, 2016 20:21:50 GMT
Funny how some internet bloggers, self-claimed pundits write ludicrous comparisons between Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho based on statistics. Statistics are only a useful tool to analyse reality, but nothing more. It does not mirror one's ability to manage a team. Winning the dressing room, having a realistic plan for success, tactics and a good staff are some of the requirements to be a good manager and Moyes had none of those. And that's why I pin down Van Gaal was far better than Moyes and José better than Louis, despite what "stats after 10 games – mourinho worse than van Gaal and Moyes" or whatever bullcrap people use as clickbaits. Moyes riddled this club with his small time mentality and gave Rooney a 5 and a half year contract. Anyone who compares his 'results' with Jose or Van Gaal to defend his ass is either a mate or an idiot!
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Dec 23, 2016 20:53:20 GMT
Funny how some internet bloggers, self-claimed pundits write ludicrous comparisons between Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho based on statistics. Statistics are only a useful tool to analyse reality, but nothing more. It does not mirror one's ability to manage a team. Winning the dressing room, having a realistic plan for success, tactics and a good staff are some of the requirements to be a good manager and Moyes had none of those. And that's why I pin down Van Gaal was far better than Moyes and José better than Louis, despite what "stats after 10 games – mourinho worse than van Gaal and Moyes" or whatever bullcrap people use as clickbaits. Moyes riddled this club with his small time mentality and gave Rooney a 5 and a half year contract. Anyone who compares his 'results' with Jose or Van Gaal to defend his ass is either a mate or an idiot! Mike Phelan for Steve Round and Rene Meulensteen for Jimmy Lumsden.
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Post by red440years on Dec 23, 2016 21:44:21 GMT
I fucking hate those stats that try to say Moyes was more successful than Jose after x games. What they don't of course say is that old bug eyes inherited a title winning squad and despite that proceeded very skilfully to take the club down the shitter rapidly. Whilst the squad did admittedly need a bit of tinkering going forward the addition of Marouane fucking Fellaini was most definitely not the answer. Hope he's booed mercilessly and we take his team apart and fucking hammer them.
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Post by dazjoe on Dec 23, 2016 21:50:13 GMT
After 17 games of the last 3 seasons we had the following:
28 points 32 points 29 points
So the only season where United had more points than they currently do was LVG's 1st season, where we didn't have European football so could focus solely on the league. In the other 2 seasons where the managers had to manage having European games and league games Mourinho has picked up more points.
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Post by CaajScot on Dec 24, 2016 7:31:51 GMT
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