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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 28, 2024 16:58:56 GMT
Worth watching if you've not seen it, much of his "crazy" image has been carefully crafted by the MSM when he started to veer away from the narratives they control. x.com/AV24org/status/1787305104443342871It's no surprise people would rather get their news from Twitter than main stream media. What's happened to the BBC is appalling.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 28, 2024 17:05:20 GMT
Worth watching if you've not seen it, much of his "crazy" image has been carefully crafted by the MSM when he started to veer away from the narratives they control. x.com/AV24org/status/1787305104443342871It's no surprise people would rather get their news from Twitter than main stream media. What's happened to the BBC is appalling. You're 100% right. MSM is dying (stats are clear), and Twitter (or whatever you want to call it) has already replaced it as the most popular source of news. Has been for me for more than a year, I really struggle to read major publications without getting irritated with the underlying agenda. From what I've read, in future they're (X.com) looking to use AI to effectively transcribe (not narrate) the news from verified sources (people, images, video) close to events - i.e. without being written into a story. Love the idea of this.
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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 28, 2024 17:21:02 GMT
It's no surprise people would rather get their news from Twitter than main stream media. What's happened to the BBC is appalling. You're 100% right. MSM is dying (stats are clear), and Twitter (or whatever you want to call it) has already replaced it as the most popular source of news. Has been for me for more than a year, I really struggle to read major publications without getting irritated with the underlying agenda. From what I've read, in future they're (X.com) looking to use AI to effectively transcribe (not narrate) the news from verified sources (people, images, video) close to events - i.e. without being written into a story. Love the idea of this. I'd rather journalists start being journalists again. The whole Assange saga hasn't helped the free press but I'd argue that the free press done little to help him. The problem with the Internet is that it's too easy to start a podcast and just preach bollocks. The amount of people making a fortune from discontent is enormous. I'm referring to people like Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson or The Young Turks.
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Post by redcase on Jun 28, 2024 18:13:37 GMT
It's no surprise people would rather get their news from Twitter than main stream media. What's happened to the BBC is appalling. You're 100% right. MSM is dying (stats are clear), and Twitter (or whatever you want to call it) has already replaced it as the most popular source of news. Has been for me for more than a year, I really struggle to read major publications without getting irritated with the underlying agenda. From what I've read, in future they're (X.com) looking to use AI to effectively transcribe (not narrate) the news from verified sources (people, images, video) close to events - i.e. without being written into a story. Love the idea of this. So who decides who's verified or not? The AI? An algorithm written by humans? Who can craft the algorithm to whichever parameters they deem "trustworthy" ? Images are not going to be any source of veracity going forward - deepfakes have taken care of that. You need a supercomputer to verify if the image you're looking at is real or not. People are almost too easy to sway and influence. Video also is alterable. The whole reason we're in this mess, why Trump is where he is, why Jan 6th happened, why most of the malaise exists when it comes to politics is X / facebook / instagram. It's really scary that people want to go with those platforms for news.
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Post by redcase on Jun 28, 2024 18:16:00 GMT
You're 100% right. MSM is dying (stats are clear), and Twitter (or whatever you want to call it) has already replaced it as the most popular source of news. Has been for me for more than a year, I really struggle to read major publications without getting irritated with the underlying agenda. From what I've read, in future they're (X.com) looking to use AI to effectively transcribe (not narrate) the news from verified sources (people, images, video) close to events - i.e. without being written into a story. Love the idea of this. I'd rather journalists start being journalists again. The whole Assange saga hasn't helped the free press but I'd argue that the free press done little to help him. The problem with the Internet is that it's too easy to start a podcast and just preach bollocks. The amount of people making a fortune from discontent is enormous. I'm referring to people like Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson or The Young Turks. If you don't like Jordan Peterson how do you like RFK? They're cut from the same cloth and they're mates by all accounts.
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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 28, 2024 20:19:15 GMT
I'd rather journalists start being journalists again. The whole Assange saga hasn't helped the free press but I'd argue that the free press done little to help him. The problem with the Internet is that it's too easy to start a podcast and just preach bollocks. The amount of people making a fortune from discontent is enormous. I'm referring to people like Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson or The Young Turks. If you don't like Jordan Peterson how do you like RFK? They're cut from the same cloth and they're mates by all accounts. I just agree with him on certain things in relation to American foreign policy but I don't see a huge similarity between him and Peterson. I get RFK, but Peterson has a habit of taking simple ideas, especially in regards to religion, then articulates some word salad and I've really no idea what he's on about.
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Post by Stew on Jun 29, 2024 10:30:06 GMT
There isn’t anything close to ‘news’ on twitter. You’re as likely to get the truth there as you would if you were in a psych ward.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 29, 2024 15:22:11 GMT
There isn’t anything close to ‘news’ on twitter. You’re as likely to get the truth there as you would if you were in a psych ward. Disagree, no place better to get the most up to date idea of events than Twitter. Perhaps not "news" in the traditional sense, woven into a report of events with context and background, but it's as close to source as it gets these days for me.
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Post by redcase on Jun 29, 2024 15:30:39 GMT
There isn’t anything close to ‘news’ on twitter. You’re as likely to get the truth there as you would if you were in a psych ward. Disagree, no place better to get the most up to date idea of events than Twitter. Perhaps not "news" in the traditional sense, woven into a report of events with context and background, but it's as close to source as it gets these days for me. Without context and background what are you reading and assimilating? Speed isn’t what news should be about. Having trustworthy, factual information is.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 29, 2024 15:41:20 GMT
Disagree, no place better to get the most up to date idea of events than Twitter. Perhaps not "news" in the traditional sense, woven into a report of events with context and background, but it's as close to source as it gets these days for me. Without context and background what are you reading and assimilating? Speed isn’t what news should be about. Having trustworthy, factual information is. I'd like to have access to live info, images and video, preferably as real-time as possible. I trust myself and others are clever enough to decipher fact from fiction based on credible sources, and if later I want it nicely packaged to read up the background and context, then great.
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Post by redcase on Jun 29, 2024 16:51:32 GMT
Without context and background what are you reading and assimilating? Speed isn’t what news should be about. Having trustworthy, factual information is. I'd like to have access to live info, images and video, preferably as real-time as possible. I trust myself and others are clever enough to decipher fact from fiction based on credible sources, and if later I want it nicely packaged to read up the background and context, then great. How do you decide who to consider credible and who isn’t? What criteria would your source need to fulfill and how will you verify their credibility? I’m not being tedious deliberately, I’m trying to genuinely understand your thought process. And the world has proven time and again that people really aren’t clever enough, inclined enough, smart enough to discern fact from fiction. You need but look at the Republican electorate for proof 😊
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Post by Kojak on Jun 29, 2024 17:01:31 GMT
There isn’t anything close to ‘news’ on twitter. You’re as likely to get the truth there as you would if you were in a psych ward. Disagree, no place better to get the most up to date idea of events than Twitter. Perhaps not "news" in the traditional sense, woven into a report of events with context and background, but it's as close to source as it gets these days for me. Yeah I think “events” rather than “news” is a good interpretation of how I use Twitter. Like, discovering such and such is dead. Then immediately shutting the app before I clock the first “VaCiNaTeD?!!!” reply.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 29, 2024 17:23:03 GMT
I'd like to have access to live info, images and video, preferably as real-time as possible. I trust myself and others are clever enough to decipher fact from fiction based on credible sources, and if later I want it nicely packaged to read up the background and context, then great. How do you decide who to consider credible and who isn’t? What criteria would your source need to fulfill and how will you verify their credibility? I’m not being tedious deliberately, I’m trying to genuinely understand your thought process. And the world has proven time and again that people really aren’t clever enough, inclined enough, smart enough to discern fact from fiction. You need but look at the Republican electorate for proof 😊 Haha, no worries - it's refreshing to be able to exchange views on the topic even if we disagree. I've been on Twitter/X a long time, so I've got a decent network of journalists and the like that have proven consistently correct (and independent). Your questions are totally valid, but just because there are questions doesn't mean the approach is flawed. Vast majority of the MSM is owned by the same, select few hedge-funds. Huge conflicts of interest everywhere. The Covid debacle created such a massive trust deficit, besides Al Jazeera I don't really read anything else in a "curated" sense. Unless it comes to sport, shower me in glorious narrative there!
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Post by Stew on Jun 29, 2024 17:29:24 GMT
Disagree, no place better to get the most up to date idea of events than Twitter. Perhaps not "news" in the traditional sense, woven into a report of events with context and background, but it's as close to source as it gets these days for me. Without context and background what are you reading and assimilating? Speed isn’t what news should be about. Having trustworthy, factual information is. Exactly. The ‘stolen’ election in 2020 is a prime example. Absolute bullshit but at least twitter back then had regulation. Can you imagine what November is going to be like if Trump loses?
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Post by Yusef on Jun 29, 2024 19:35:16 GMT
At least the conspiracies are confined to this thread here! I bet I'm not the only one who came here from the Red Issue Sanctuary to escape them.
Everyone says that Biden's wife is the only person who could persuade him to pull out.
She must be unhinged if she thinks keeping going is a good idea.
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