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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 6, 2024 16:24:07 GMT
If Trump did manage to pass legislation for a third term, I think it'd backfire as it would allow Obama to step up. In 2016 he was comfortably more popular than both candidates despite 8 years in office and I doubt that has changed. Biden basically won off the back of being Obama's VP.
But I don't think it will happen anyway.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 6, 2024 16:25:01 GMT
Exactly. Some would say that “ending” a war by giving the unjustified aggressor the territory it wants is a very bad thing and ultimately just emboldens that aggressor to take more. Not unless you're friends with the aggressor Any peace process in Palestine is also done as of today. Kushner was talking about building real estate there lol. Of all the people who have been self-sabotaging with their votes, pro-Palestine protestors may be at the top. Kamala was their only hope of a peace process. Trump will let Israel do what they want and no one else on earth will be able to step in and stop them.
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Post by unitedsotex on Nov 6, 2024 16:30:37 GMT
If Trump did manage to pass legislation for a third term, I think it'd backfire as it would allow Obama to step up. In 2016 he was comfortably more popular than both candidates despite 8 years in office and I doubt that has changed. Biden basically won off the back of being Obama's VP. But I don't think it will happen anyway. I would hope that the side that's always screaming about the Bill of Rights and Constitution needing to be protected at all costs as it's the foundation of this country would be the first ones to step in and not allow anyone including Trump to do something like that.
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Post by smithy2 on Nov 6, 2024 16:39:06 GMT
We could legit see the end of NATO if trump pulls support for Ukraine.
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Post by smithy2 on Nov 6, 2024 16:41:55 GMT
He’s ran essentially the worst campaign he could’ve ran. Babbling, offending all the key demos, VP terminally unpopular, fucked the debate. Still won. Wild. I think it came down to inflation. People think he is going lower gas and grocery prices. Which is crazy because Trumps planned tax cuts will add to the US deficit and increase inflation again. So America just basically voted for more inflation despite it being the key issue.
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 6, 2024 17:11:46 GMT
I think it came down to inflation. People think he is going lower gas and grocery prices. Which is crazy because Trumps planned tax cuts will add to the US deficit and increase inflation again. So America just basically voted for more inflation despite it being the key issue. If he takes a chainsaw to beaucracy in America then it could have the opposite effect. Honestly we should be doing that here in Europe. It's time for our government to get their hands out of people's pockets and let people call the shots for a change.
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Post by kingkobbie on Nov 6, 2024 17:28:33 GMT
They’ll try to make it happen. And he will have judges to bless whatever stunt he tries to pull. I mean, the guy can barely speak a coherent sentence now and already looks severely cognitively declined, not to mention physically he’s about 4 stone overweight and that image of him getting up on to that garbage truck will stay with us longer than any normal person would wish for. Chances are he’ll barley make the 4 years as a functional adult. I wouldn’t worry about this really. Not super receptive to “I wouldn’t worry” today
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Post by Stew on Nov 6, 2024 17:34:04 GMT
I mean, the guy can barely speak a coherent sentence now and already looks severely cognitively declined, not to mention physically he’s about 4 stone overweight and that image of him getting up on to that garbage truck will stay with us longer than any normal person would wish for. Chances are he’ll barley make the 4 years as a functional adult. I wouldn’t worry about this really. Not super receptive to “I wouldn’t worry” today Totally understandable but on this one, rest easy!
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Post by kingkobbie on Nov 6, 2024 17:35:05 GMT
If Trump did manage to pass legislation for a third term, I think it'd backfire as it would allow Obama to step up. In 2016 he was comfortably more popular than both candidates despite 8 years in office and I doubt that has changed. Biden basically won off the back of being Obama's VP. But I don't think it will happen anyway. He doesn't need legislation. He needs judges (many of which he appointed and are subservient to him) to say that a third term would be okay for XYZ reasons. Judges have already basically blessed criminal conduct he committed in office by saying a president can't be criminally liable for his "official acts."
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Post by kingkobbie on Nov 6, 2024 17:37:45 GMT
Which is crazy because Trumps planned tax cuts will add to the US deficit and increase inflation again. So America just basically voted for more inflation despite it being the key issue. If he takes a chainsaw to beaucracy in America then it could have the opposite effect. Honestly we should be doing that here in Europe. It's time for our government to get their hands out of people's pockets and let people call the shots for a change. Project 2025 except for the whole world!
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Post by unitedsotex on Nov 6, 2024 17:58:49 GMT
If Trump did manage to pass legislation for a third term, I think it'd backfire as it would allow Obama to step up. In 2016 he was comfortably more popular than both candidates despite 8 years in office and I doubt that has changed. Biden basically won off the back of being Obama's VP. But I don't think it will happen anyway. He doesn't need legislation. He needs judges (many of which he appointed and are subservient to him) to say that a third term would be okay for XYZ reasons. Judges have already basically blessed criminal conduct he committed in office by saying a president can't be criminally liable for his "official acts." the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution covers Term limits. My understanding is the only way that can be change is 2 ways: The United States Congress can pass a bill setting out a proposed amendment by a vote of two thirds in each body. Or a constitutional convention can be convened by a vote of two thirds (Supermajority) of the state legislatures, which will propose one or more amendments. the Latter has never happened in American History.
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Post by kingkobbie on Nov 6, 2024 18:16:41 GMT
He doesn't need legislation. He needs judges (many of which he appointed and are subservient to him) to say that a third term would be okay for XYZ reasons. Judges have already basically blessed criminal conduct he committed in office by saying a president can't be criminally liable for his "official acts." the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution covers Term limits. My understanding is the only way that can be change is 2 ways: The United States Congress can pass a bill setting out a proposed amendment by a vote of two thirds in each body. Or a constitutional convention can be convened by a vote of two thirds (Supermajority) of the state legislatures, which will propose one or more amendments. the Latter has never happened in American History. The federal courts, and ultimately the Supreme Court, are the ultimate arbiter of what the Constitution means. If federal judges interpret the 22nd Amendment to allow Trump a third term, then that's the law.
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Post by unitedsotex on Nov 6, 2024 18:20:40 GMT
the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution covers Term limits. My understanding is the only way that can be change is 2 ways: The United States Congress can pass a bill setting out a proposed amendment by a vote of two thirds in each body. Or a constitutional convention can be convened by a vote of two thirds (Supermajority) of the state legislatures, which will propose one or more amendments. the Latter has never happened in American History. The federal courts, and ultimately the Supreme Court, are the ultimate arbiter of what the Constitution means. If federal judges interpret the 22nd Amendment to allow Trump a third term, then that's the law. Where are you getting this from because Article V of the Constitution covers this specifically. I quick search confirms this and that US Federal court nor Supreme Court can do that.
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Post by kingkobbie on Nov 6, 2024 18:33:16 GMT
The federal courts, and ultimately the Supreme Court, are the ultimate arbiter of what the Constitution means. If federal judges interpret the 22nd Amendment to allow Trump a third term, then that's the law. Where are you getting this from because Article V of the Constitution covers this specifically. I quick search confirms this and that US Federal court nor Supreme Court can do that. Marbury v. Madison. If Trump tries this and people say it's unconstitutional, the federal courts, and ultimately the Supreme Court, will decide who is right. The Supreme Court determines what the Constitution (including the 22nd Amendment) means. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review Edit: I'm an attorney so not entirely speaking out of my ass here.
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Post by redcase on Nov 6, 2024 18:41:35 GMT
Not unless you're friends with the aggressor Any peace process in Palestine is also done as of today. Kushner was talking about building real estate there lol. Of all the people who have been self-sabotaging with their votes, pro-Palestine protestors may be at the top. Kamala was their only hope of a peace process. Trump will let Israel do what they want and no one else on earth will be able to step in and stop them. They’re a fucking dumb bunch. I wish they’d fuck off and get a job or get back into their school or college. All these cunts with their pro-Palestinian protests need to see what’s happening in Sudan. The largest war induced famine in history, tens of millions displaced on a scale hitherto unseen, mass rapes, mass ethnic cleansing. People are fucking wiping villages and towns off the face of the earth like they’re playing age of empires or something. Go protest that you fucking vagabonds. Because you’re bang on Rust, Trump will allow Bibi to practically t-bag the Palestinians and Lebanon while these stupid fucks were voting against Harris.
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