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Post by GeniusCantona on Dec 26, 2017 23:28:10 GMT
Forward thinking managers? Name me 4 Pochettino Sarri Emery And that fucking bald cunt down the road No, I’m not saying they should replace Jose. But let’s not pretend there aren’t attacking managers out there. Even Klopp is shit and a cunt but he is ‘forward thinking’. I’d add Jardim to that list of 4. He’s keeping Monaco competitive even with all the players they lost. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 23:31:18 GMT
It's the responsible thing these days to be talking about the next manager no matter how much it annoys some posters. Jose is likely to be here next season but there's a good chance he won't be here the years after so I see no reason we shouldn't be discussing it. I want the same thing I've wanted since LVG. An attacking manager. I want us to transition from defence to attack at the speed of light. It's what other teams are doing now too. The Premier league has sped up again. I watched the Classico the other day & it was end to end, sneaky punches were thrown. Full blooded tackles. I want some of that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 23:33:05 GMT
We can pretend all we like because we hate the cunts but there's no doubt Liverpool play better attacking football than us. I'm just thankful Klopp is a dumb fuck who doesn't seem to give a shit about the defensive side of the game because if he did, they'd be serious contenders. Considering their defence is a disgrace they are doing well. Everybody is creeping up on us after our performances/results in the last few weeks. If we don't sort it out soon the likes of the scouse, Spurs and Arsenal are going to be right up alongside us. Only 6 points separating 2nd to 5th, 6th if Arsenal win their game in hand. Hell, Chelsea are just a point behind now despite looking pretty average for most of the season. The momentum is with all those sides at the minute as well. I reckon their fans are far more confident about their team picking up a result in their next game than our fans are. We can't continue to stick our head in the sand and pretend we're far superior to every side in the league bar City because we're really not, as the league table is starting to show. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2017 23:50:08 GMT
Mourinho doesn't understand why this is a sticky spell for us? Seriously? 2 draws on the bounce in games we should be winning, knocked out of a cup to a Championship side, 2 narrow victories in uninspiring displays and a pathetic, spineless performance at home to City, culminating in a defeat.
Aye, it's not a sticky spell Jose, it's a fucking dogshit spell!
Also complaining in the press conference about not having enough money to spend. Fair enough he's spent less than Pep but he's still spent a fucking fortune.
My future response to any moans and groans about lack of funds will simply be "LUKAKU!! £80MIL!!!"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 0:24:36 GMT
Remember a few weeks ago when everybody was saying how we'd be top in past seasons. Changed significantly in the last few weeks. At this point last season we'd have been 3rd, 6 points behind Chelsea, 1 behind Liverpool and just a point ahead of Spurs and City. We're also only 4 points better off than we were at this stage last season as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 0:46:28 GMT
This season and last against Burnley at home. We've had a combined... 60 attempts at goal 31 corners 2 goals. Starting to not enjoy us playing Burnley at home  |
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Post by . on Dec 27, 2017 0:52:09 GMT
Bang on lads, Jose is taking the fucking piss.
We should be going for the jugular when playing against teams at Old Trafford.
Pragmatic football can fuck right off!!!!
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Dec 27, 2017 1:02:07 GMT
Forward thinking managers? Name me 4 Pochettino Sarri Emery And that fucking bald cunt down the road No, I’m not saying they should replace Jose. But let’s not pretend there aren’t attacking managers out there. Even Klopp is shit and a cunt but he is ‘forward thinking’. I'd also add Hasenhüttl from RB Leipzig. Despite their European form (3rd in the group stage), he's been doing well domestically, plays youth, has done 2 good jobs (1 title from the 3rd tier of the Austrian division and one title of the 2. Bundesliga with Ingolstadt in a good campaign, took them from the rock bottom to the Bundesliga and they stayed up the following season under him, and went back to the 2nd tier when he left) and is doing one in the Bundesliga. Very excited to see him vs Sarri in the Europa League. |
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Post by WhatsTheMata on Dec 27, 2017 1:13:20 GMT
Feel just as shit as Boxing Day 2 years ago. We’re in a better position and not convinced the manager should go or anything, but it feels pretty shit. Wonder if we are further behind the leaders now (or after City play) than when we were then? I’ve stopped looking at City at this point, need to start looking over our shoulder. This. We should've distanced ourselves from 3rd and 4th and had every chance to do so, yet we ended up outplayed by Leicester and Burnley. Spurs are 5th and only 6 points behind us. Instead of being 10 points clear, we've put ourselves in a situation where if we slip a bit more and Spurs maintain their form, we are even at risk of ending out of top 4 if we don't improve. |
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Post by Karma on Dec 27, 2017 1:31:20 GMT
Forward thinking managers? Name me 4 Why 4? You only need to look across Manchester to find the most important 1. Pep is head and shoulders above Mourinho at the moment. And save yourself from babbling on about ownership, quality of inherited squad, money spent and the likes. I couldn't give a shit. He has City playing incredible stuff going forward and now has a superior defensive record to us as well. We've spent a fortune as well and should be closer to them in points as well as quality of football. Pochettino has Spurs playing better football with a much worse budget and squad at his disposal. Aye they're only 5th and 6 points behind us, which makes it all the more embarrassing that I find them far more exciting to watch than us. Jardim at Monaco. The stuff he had that young side playing before they got ripped apart was fantastic. To win the league against the money at PSG was a superb achievement. I guess I fail the exam as I only named 3 but you're missing the point. You're constantly attempting to deflect criticism of the manager with shit ass questions like "Well, who's better?", without actually saying why Mourinho is the right man for the job. There's only so long you can hang on to his C.V and ignore the shite football we're having to endure. LVG had a wonderful C.V as well. A lot of managers, like players finally hit that brick wall and start to regress, especially the ones that seem unwilling to adapt their approach/style. Mourinho is slowly creeping towards being that type of manager Of course we should be closer to City but it's not like anyone else is that close to them either including a team who won the league last season. One of Jose's biggest criticisms is his record against the big teams. So far Spurs have won against Liverpool at home and been beaten by Arsenal, City, Chelsea and us. So much for that. His Spurs bottled the league against big spenders.....Leicester. He may have his teams playing some nice stuff but has still won jack. Take Kane out of that team they are mid table imo. Not seen enough of Jardim to comment. |
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Post by Kamilo on Dec 27, 2017 2:25:00 GMT
Oh boy now complaints of an “unfair transfer market” and not enough spending??
The same guy said in the summer that he got his three main targets and he’s was satisfied but would it would have been “extra” if he got his 4th.
Cmon!
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Post by grandpaTJ on Dec 27, 2017 3:15:18 GMT
Gotta be a just a tad tough to be a manager when you draw up the plans and your players play like the little sisters of the poor.
Been starting to think team of 15 year olds could run rampant through midfield can buy the talent, can't buy the performance once they are on the
field Maybe Jose needs shock collars and a bunch of buttons LOL pretty much whole team would be on ground twitching at same time, have to hire
people to push buttons an fry them when they need it
LOL have to be careful who they hire to mind the shock buttons, get some of the guys from here an the matches would have to stop from the smoke
off sizzling lay abouts
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 4:29:59 GMT
www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-loser-jose-mourinho-and-insufficient-progressJose Mourinho’s personality demands that he stands at the centre of every stage. He is the guaranteed headline. When he wins, we see Mourinho’s smile on the back of newspapers and the top of websites. When he loses, we see his anger. This is Jose’s world; every club is his fiefdom. That is the inevitable result of employing a manager who doesn’t just pride himself on egocentricity, but makes it his raison d’etre. Mourinho obsesses about being the best to the point that second is nothing – you cannot demand adoration when you succeed and yet shy away from the spotlight when things go awry. Not that Mourinho is afraid to apportion blame or deflect attention, of course. Referees, injuries, other managers, fortune, his own players and fixture schedules are all regular targets for Mourinho in times of strife. If that seems harsh, read the first paragraph again. When his teams are beaten fair and square, and no excuse comes to hand, the trick is to create a media sensation that will become fish and chip paper for the subsequent few days. See the dressing room kerfuffle post-Manchester City loss that was upgraded to full-blown war by a media that needs eyes on stories and a public increasingly obsessed by football as soap opera. Unfortunately, media diversion does not work when you drop points at home to a Burnley team that were outclassed by Tottenham in their own stadium just a few days before. Mourinho deserves credit for his half-time changes, but there can be no reasonable excuse for the limp display before the final hurrah. However they got there, this was a dismal result. If Mourinho does want to mention absences, then James Tarkowski, Chris Wood, Robbie Brady, Stephen Ward and Tom Heaton were all missing for the visitors. A defence of Kevin Long, Charlie Taylor, Ben Mee and Phil Bardsley eventually wilted under pressure, but a point at Old Trafford is a tremendous achievement. Manchester City will now have the opportunity to surge 15 points clear before the final fixtures of 2017. Chelsea, apparently beset by problems, are a point behind. Last season, despite plenty of pundits picking Manchester United to win the title and Mourinho himself aiming for that goal, the manager changed the mood. That was done partly through lowering expectations via media comment but also through success in cup competitions. What could have been disastrous ended up being perfectly acceptable. This season, they are out of the title race, eliminated from the League Cup and face a far tougher assault on European success. Mourinho will not (or should not) be allowed to promote second place with any glint of success. That is not how Manchester United created a dynasty. Again, Mourinho has tried to shift the mood. We are told how nobody could have been expected to compete with Manchester City, as if Manchester United weren’t top of the league at the end of August and level on points with their rivals at the end of September. Since then, United sit fifth in a Premier League table with the same number of points as Burnley. City have soared, but United stumbled too. We did not expect United to win the league, but we expected a challenge. We expected Jose ‘second season’ Mourinho to demonstrate the repertoire that has served him so well. We expected better than this. ‘Jose Mourinho challenges Manchester United aces to go for Premier League and FA Cup double and a minimum of quarter-finals in Champions League,’ read the headline in late-August, presumably leaked to a favourable media source. Those takes cannot just be erased in hindsight. Mourinho expected better too. And so we are permitted to criticise a run of results that has included defeat to Manchester City, fortunate victory over Arsenal, hanging on against Watford, Bournemouth and West Brom, losing to Bristol City and drawing against ten-man Leicester and Burnley. Ever since the Liverpool lethargy, instigated by Mourinho anti-ambition, United have struggled. Coincidence? The problem here is that criticism is hard to take. The dominance of Mourinho’s personality forces his club’s supporters to buy into his hype, into Brand Mourinho, and so accepting criticism of him becomes an admission of weakness. Dare to find fault, and ‘you just hate Mourinho’ soon follows. The internet has become the natural habitat for the accuser of bias, but normally it is against an entire club. Mourinho is a club of one. After 20 league matches of last season, Manchester United had earned 39 points. After 20 matches of this season, United have 43 points. If four extra points after buying three new first-team players for a combined £150m represents progress, that progress is not sufficient. In an industry where extreme opinions sell best, this is not a disaster but nor is it success. Rather than black and white, United are a disappointing grey.
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Post by juanveron on Dec 27, 2017 6:27:01 GMT
I was actually about to post that all the negativity surrounding our team and form started with the Anfield display. Demanding your progressing side to regress into something they used to be was an awful mistake my Mourinho.
It’s also no coincidence that the impact of losing to City at home is identical to the one from last season: playing a lot more defensively, everyone is on edge and the results are horrific.
Blame the transfer budget all you want Jose, saying it won’t make it true.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 27, 2017 10:25:44 GMT
He's just rattling through his list of excuses once again, a lack of money?, give me a break Jose. Yet again the press have decided to focus on that instead of the teams performance, despite Burnley missing players and looking like the home side in the first half.
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