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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 10:50:28 GMT
Well, for 300k a week he should. We are not supposed to be grateful that he is putting an effort, no matter what is going on. Excellent performance and all, but he was wearing the armband, and the captain of Manchester United should give his best to the club too He's not asking for us to be grateful. He's telling us he always puts the effort in, despite people saying otherwise. Like his fucking manager...The one person he didnt mention in that post. His business with the manager, who made him captain for the night, should not be all over tweeter. What he should be telling us is that it was a privilege to captain United and that there is nothing in the Barca rumors |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 11:13:08 GMT
He's not asking for us to be grateful. He's telling us he always puts the effort in, despite people saying otherwise. Like his fucking manager...The one person he didnt mention in that post. His business with the manager, who made him captain for the night, should not be all over tweeter. What he should be telling us is that it was a privilege to captain United and that there is nothing in the Barca rumors He did a captains job with 4 days training after winning the world Cup, and getting man of the match. Dave has pretty much never said I don't want to go to Real Madrid, and that's about 6 years in the making but he's a hero and ain't been mugged off more than once by his manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 11:43:11 GMT
His business with the manager, who made him captain for the night, should not be all over tweeter. What he should be telling us is that it was a privilege to captain United and that there is nothing in the Barca rumors He did a captains job with 4 days training after winning the world Cup, and getting man of the match. Dave has pretty much never said I don't want to go to Real Madrid, and that's about 6 years in the making but he's a hero and ain't been mugged off more than once by his manager. Mourinho is a cunt. Dave is hero and Pogba will be too if he bacomes half as consistent as Dave has been for us. Perhaps it’s just me but our heroes should better keep their disagreements with the manager to themselves. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 11:58:46 GMT
He did a captains job with 4 days training after winning the world Cup, and getting man of the match. Dave has pretty much never said I don't want to go to Real Madrid, and that's about 6 years in the making but he's a hero and ain't been mugged off more than once by his manager. Mourinho is a cunt. Dave is hero and Pogba will be too if he bacomes half as consistent as Dave has been for us. Perhaps it’s just me but our heroes should better keep their disagreements with the manager to themselves. Bit hard when it's the manager making them public. |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Aug 11, 2018 12:55:13 GMT
There’s a lot that could potentially be read into here... Or he could just be referring to being tired from the World Cup still? #BlindOptimism I think Pogba is just reacting to the constant news stories saying he’s unhappy or that Jose has had a falling out or that such and such club wants him. He’s just saying no matter what stupid shit you’re reading, he gives his best every time. The amount of scrutiny he gets is ridiculous. He has not publicly stated he wants to go nor does it seem he’s pushing thru a move. I think we might see his best season coming up. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 13:06:02 GMT
i`ve seen that some people are already worried about lukakus performance last night. i`m not, not at all, not slightly worried. came for the last what, 20mins? had a fantastic world cup, a break, barely kicked a ball since then. should have scored that one chance but other than that, lukaku will be more than fine. give some of the players time to arrive and train properly before you judge. He should have scored, though it was a marvelous save. Anyone judging anything else after last night knows literally nothing about football and how a summer break works. If he didn't take a touch and hit it straight away I think he'd have buried it. Seems to panic a bit in the end. Certainly nothing worth panicking over. |
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Post by Karma on Aug 11, 2018 14:02:38 GMT
Mourinho is a cunt. Dave is hero and Pogba will be too if he bacomes half as consistent as Dave has been for us. Perhaps it’s just me but our heroes should better keep their disagreements with the manager to themselves. Bit hard when it's the manager making them public. It doesn't help when his agent is the scum bag parasite he is either. Let's not pretend Pogba hasn't been underwhelming at times. He was getting booed by the fans of his own national team only weeks before the world Cup. He needs to be more consist in his performances. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Aug 11, 2018 19:00:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 22:49:46 GMT
Pogba needs to keep his mouth shut. There's only room for one miserable fucker at the club
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Post by Karma on Aug 11, 2018 23:36:25 GMT
Pogba needs to keep his mouth shut. There's only room for one miseranle fucker at the club He needs to zip it regardless. Bitching and crying to the press when you have had an inconsistent season doesn't look good, World Cup aside. It's quite obvious that regardless of Jose he's not going to be a United legend because he's not going to be here that long. Him and his agent will engineer a way out for sure sooner or later. Jose was even defending him against one of our club legends and he does this. One things for sure the club should have nothing to do with any more of his cunt agents clients ever again. Fergie was bob on about this steaming pile of excrement. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 23:52:36 GMT
Pogba needs to keep his mouth shut. There's only room for one miseranle fucker at the club He needs to zip it regardless. Bitching and crying to the press when you have had an inconsistent season doesn't look good, World Cup aside. It's quite obvious that regardless of Jose he's not going to be a United legend because he's not going to be here that long. Him and his agent will engineer a way out for sure sooner or later. Jose was even defending him against one of our club legends and he does this. One things for sure the club should have nothing to do with any more of his cunt agents clients ever again. Fergie was bob on about this steaming pile of excrement. Yeah his only interest is to move players on every couple of years and get a fee. |
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Post by Karma on Aug 12, 2018 0:17:16 GMT
He needs to zip it regardless. Bitching and crying to the press when you have had an inconsistent season doesn't look good, World Cup aside. It's quite obvious that regardless of Jose he's not going to be a United legend because he's not going to be here that long. Him and his agent will engineer a way out for sure sooner or later. Jose was even defending him against one of our club legends and he does this. One things for sure the club should have nothing to do with any more of his cunt agents clients ever again. Fergie was bob on about this steaming pile of excrement. Yeah his only interest is to move players on every couple of years and get a fee. Clubs need to wise up to him and his antics. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 7:25:25 GMT
Mourinho is a cunt. Dave is hero and Pogba will be too if he bacomes half as consistent as Dave has been for us. Perhaps it’s just me but our heroes should better keep their disagreements with the manager to themselves. Bit hard when it's the manager making them public.
"You have to know one thing: a player that gets chosen and is happy, you always feel more comfortable than when he's not happy. That's all I say." "if you're not happy, you cannot give your best" "There are things and there are things that I cannot say otherwise I will get fined," Pogba said before walking off.
Bit hard? So he should fucking try harder. Mourinho is a cunt of a person but we don't all love our bosses at work. I'm sure there are many United employees who have disagreements with their bosses and they are expected to give their best even when they aren't happy. Some of them are on minimum wage too and if reports are to believed some don't even get that. Then there is an employee named Antony Martial. He's been miserable for 20-odd years, which could explain why we haven't seen his best for quite a while (even when he did get a chance). Is that what he should hear from his club captain in the media? Is it really unavoidable to stink the place at the start of a new season?
Mourinho has a lot to answer for, but I tell you we are fucked and individuals like Pogba are just as responsible for that as the manager. Public criticism from the manager is counter-productive, but then this is outrageous from any player let alone the club captain. He already cost us 100m once (Fergie should shoulder some of the blame) but if he rocks the boat again then he can fuck off. Thankfully he is under contract for years ahead so this time it will be on the club's terms.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 7:42:27 GMT
Bit hard when it's the manager making them public. "You have to know one thing: a player that gets chosen and is happy, you always feel more comfortable than when he's not happy. That's all I say." "if you're not happy, you cannot give your best" "There are things and there are things that I cannot say otherwise I will get fined," Pogba said before walking off. Bit hard? So he should fucking try harder. Mourinho is a cunt of a person but we don't all love our bosses at work. I'm sure there are many United employees who have disagreements with their bosses and they are expected to give their best even when they aren't happy. Some of them are on minimum wage too and if reports are to believed some don't even get that. Then there is an employee named Antony Martial. He's been miserable for 20-odd years, which could explain why we haven't seen his best for quite a while (even when he did get a chance). Is that what he should hear from his club captain in the media? Is it really unavoidable to stink the place at the start of a new season? Mourinho has a lot to answer for, but I tell you we are fucked and individuals like Pogba are just as responsible for that as the manager. Public criticism from the manager is counter-productive, but then this is outrageous from any player let alone the club captain. He already cost us 100m once (Fergie should shoulder some of the blame) but if he rocks the boat again then he can fuck off. Thankfully he is under contract for years ahead so this time it will be on the club's terms.
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Post by stonecarver2 on Aug 12, 2018 9:42:32 GMT
Dion Dublins assessment of the match:
They might not have set the world alight, but Manchester United's 2-1 win over Leicester on Friday night was still a significant result and performance.
It has been a difficult summer for United boss Jose Mourinho and I said last week that I felt he needed to find some harmony within the club.
He got that from his team's display at Old Trafford, from the way they started so well to how they saw the game out at the end.
It was not perfect by any means, but who cares? They were not playing their strongest team, and it is right at the start of the season.
It was definitely a positive night for United, who picked up three points against difficult opponents - and there is lots more to come from them.
Man Utd boss Jose Mourinho
Mourinho was full of praise for his players
'This is Old Trafford, and we are United - this is how we play'
Mourinho said after the game that his side showed glimpses of what they are capable of, and they certainly made an impressive start.
Yes, they went ahead inside the first three minutes through Paul Pogba's penalty, but what was important was the way they went after Leicester right from the off.
United were outstanding in the early stages and I think the Foxes were in shock at the way they came out of the blocks and took control of the game.
It was almost as if they were saying 'look this is Old Trafford, and we are United - this is how we play'.
There was a fantastic atmosphere inside the ground because United were playing the kind of football their fans want to see and showing them something they had not seen for a long time, which was a bit of a spark.
Their first thought when they got the ball was always to get it forward and they were trying to get their wide players high up the pitch, which is the United way.
It was very exciting to watch for the first 20 or 25 minutes but, when they took their foot off the gas, Leicester came right back into the game.
Pogba responds to being given responsibility
Man Utd midfielder Paul Pogba
Pogba has had two stars shaved into his scalp to celebrate France's second World Cup win
Things were a lot more even for the rest of the match but I also think Mourinho will be happy with the way his side managed the game when Leicester were posing a threat.
I know they had a lapse right at the end when Jamie Vardy pulled a goal back for the Foxes but, otherwise, they had the kind of focus they needed.
That was down to the organisation and discipline of the senior players that Mourinho could call upon, and how hard they worked together as a unit when they did not have the ball.
It was telling that he made Pogba his skipper in the absence of the injured Antonio Valencia, after all the speculation that the France midfielder is unhappy and wants to leave.
Mourinho got it right. Pogba responded with a strong all-round performance, as well as scoring the opening goal after what I have to say was a very strange run-up for his penalty.
Jose is the type of manager who gives someone the captaincy for the right reasons and I think he decided to give Pogba some responsibility for managing the game and the players around him, which was a very clever move.
'Shaw is the best left-back at the club'
Shaw's performance 'very complete' - Mourinho
Pogba was not the only United player to impress me. Juan Mata was brilliant at picking the right pass and Andreas Pereira was also very steady.
On his United debut, Fred did well at what I would call the ugly work, which was winning the ball back and not trying to be too clever when he had it, and I thought Alexis Sanchez's work without the ball was superb too.
There are some attacking players who might as well not be in the side if they are not scoring or creating, but Sanchez does all of that and also works hard and breaks up the opposition play when United do not have possession.
Sanchez ticks all the boxes you want from your forward, so it is very hard to leave him out.
And I was delighted for Luke Shaw to get his first goal in senior football.
Mourinho has been critical of Shaw in the past but he was full of praise for him afterwards, and rightly so.
Luke made one mistake - towards the end of the game when he was caught in possession inside his own area by Vardy - but he will not need to be told about it.
He is the best left-back at the club when he is fit and flying so I am glad he has got his goal, because it should take a bit of pressure off him.
Lindelof and Bailly - together at the back?
Mourinho did not get the new centre-half he wanted in the transfer window and, from the comments he made after the Leicester match about being a head coach instead of a manager, he is still not happy about it.
But considering Victor Lindelof and Eric Bailly had played so little together in their time at United - just 99 minutes in total before Friday's game - they looked pretty solid and sturdy at the back.
Bailly can be a bit rash and possibly needs a voice in his ear as he is about to dive into a tackle to say 'stand up, stand up' but he got away with it against Leicester and is clearly a good defender.
As I was saying on BBC Radio 5 live on Friday, United have a very strong squad. If you have round pegs in round holes, and all of them are doing the right job at the same time, then you are going to do well.
The best news for Mourinho is that it looks like there were will be a few battles going on for places in his first XI over the next few weeks, all over the pitch.
And I don't think there were any negatives for him on Friday,
Yes, Marcus Rashford missed a couple of half-chances, but there was nothing clear-cut, while Romelu Lukaku should have scored when he was clean through but Kasper Schmeichel made a superb save.
That's not surprising, because I know from experience that everyone is a bit rusty for the first game back.
United still got the win despite probably only being at 70%, and everyone who was involved is going to be fitter next time. I am looking forward to seeing how their season progresses from here.
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