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Post by Karma on Nov 12, 2018 13:27:56 GMT
However Jose is judged at the end, I’ll always respect the fact that he had the guts to take on the job and openly questioned the club’s ambition. He wants to win. He’s called a spade a spade and it’s clear our club is happy banking on our past success rather than creating new history. Fuck the board, owners and sponsors. In regards to our players, if Martial, Rashford and Shaw ever reach their potential, a lot of that will come down to Jose’s tough man management. think the problem we have is a lot of people just see it as moaning Jose who just is out of touch and he has spent shed loads so crack on. whilst there is some merit in that I genuinely think if it were say Giggs in the hot seat, the leaks that would be coming out left right and centre from the likes of nev, scholes and rio the owners would be truly forced to do something Hiring Giggs would be sabotage! It would almost be impossible to sack him without ex player meltdown if he turned out to be the disaster I think he would be. Look at the U turn they did after Neville stuck the boot in before Newcastle. If he stunk the place out it would be worse than anything you are seeing now. 2 of our legendary managers were outsiders, one with connections to one of our rivals. The job should be awarded on merit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 13:50:34 GMT
At this stage it is going to take someone with the Saudis deep pockets to fix it. Take a big hit on clearing out the squad and properly replace them. Clear up of the backroom staff (depending on new manager, etc) Further investment into the youth team/reserves to ensure a constant enough stream of potential new players. Upgrade of stadium - although that isn't exactly a pressing issue. Unless the gimps suddenly have an epiphany then none of it is going to happen under them. And even if they did, would you trust Ed to do it properly? None of it is going to happen unfortunately and Ed will remain as clueless as ever! What the hell does Lingard actually offer us as well? Imagine one of the other clubs paying him 100 grand a week. Oh well at least he's come through the academy so we can brag about that.
13 goals and six assists in 48 appearances. Not good enough. Let him go and use the 100k a week for the search after the real Sanchez
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 13:53:53 GMT
i owe you an apology for sticking your name in with the others yesterday. Totally out of order on my part, so i am sorry. Cheers mate, I'm sorry for reacting like Ed's adopted son.  |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 12, 2018 13:57:55 GMT
I love that you're still bitter about a comment from 6 months ago. You'd fit right in on the other side of Manchester. As for Pogba - so the club doesn't seem to have said anything - apart from the fact that Jose has explicitly said that Pogba got a knock against Juventus, and praised him in the process. www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-explains-paul-pogbas-13573549His performance from last season has something to do with it in the fact that he showed a load of fight by scoring two goals, so having no fight six months later makes very little sense. No not bitter, just find it funny that you are fitting right in with your politician training. Plenty of spin. Sanchez had a knock too (a visible one too), but still showed up. Funny how Lukaku was "injured" too but that seems to have disappeared. Keep towing the party line though. Suits you. Bit odd you question the manager on nearly everything else (mainly his football decisions) but follow him on that. I'm sure this "injury" will keep him out of the vital France games too. Oh look, Pogba has withdrawn from the France squad. Funny that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 14:04:13 GMT
No not bitter, just find it funny that you are fitting right in with your politician training. Plenty of spin. Sanchez had a knock too (a visible one too), but still showed up. Funny how Lukaku was "injured" too but that seems to have disappeared. Keep towing the party line though. Suits you. Bit odd you question the manager on nearly everything else (mainly his football decisions) but follow him on that. I'm sure this "injury" will keep him out of the vital France games too. Oh look, Pogba has withdrawn from the France squad. Funny that. Cue more apologies and kisses.
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 12, 2018 14:27:39 GMT
No not bitter, just find it funny that you are fitting right in with your politician training. Plenty of spin. Sanchez had a knock too (a visible one too), but still showed up. Funny how Lukaku was "injured" too but that seems to have disappeared. Keep towing the party line though. Suits you. Bit odd you question the manager on nearly everything else (mainly his football decisions) but follow him on that. I'm sure this "injury" will keep him out of the vital France games too. Oh look, Pogba has withdrawn from the France squad. Funny that. Well what do you know, he was actually injured. Thats a surprise. Martial injured too. Oh well. |
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Post by mightyez on Nov 12, 2018 14:43:21 GMT
actually delighted they are both out, last thing we need is them going off and looking great for france especially as Martial is yet to pen a new deal
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Post by _ on Nov 12, 2018 14:46:50 GMT
Thankfully it's the break and hopefully Martial and Pogba are fit by the time we start again , for the important 6 week run the into Xmas period. We are basically fucked if those two are out
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Post by GeniusCantona on Nov 12, 2018 16:14:35 GMT
We have the opportunity to make up some ground in the next 4 league games. We have Palace, Arsenal and Fulham at home with Southampton as the only away game. Win these 4 and we're suddenly in top 4 contention. city are on another level but the scousers, arse, chelsea and spurs are all teams we're capable of catching.
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Post by mightyez on Nov 12, 2018 16:15:35 GMT
problem is those teams aren't losing though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 16:47:20 GMT
Can they get Matic on that list aswell.
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Post by caino on Nov 12, 2018 17:31:48 GMT
what a pathetic performance. the spark was reignited after juve now its been completed washed away. we are terrible. from the management right through to the players. im fuckin sick of it. fellaini isn't a starter. how do our attackers not know where to pass, run and move with each other. why are our technical players, our ball passers, the ball carriers and our runners not playing in these games. I mean Fred the 52m signing, Pereira one of the most technical players we have. that midfield we had out would struggle against mid table teams. , Herrera was the weak link in our midfield yesterday. Mata should’ve started in his place along with Sanchez for Lingard. he wasn't the problem, but hes not the answer either. fellaini is a sub. he comes on near the end and causes havoc. hes fresh and full of energy and can get about people. against city, you need energy and people who can keep and rotate the ball. theres one of our problems. we don't have a set and practiced style. if one player is out our whole dynamic changes. compared to other teams they have someone out and then the player comin in knows what theyre supposed to do and so does everyone else around them, cos It doesn't chancge. I honestly wonder what they do in trainin, because 3 years down the line and its still the same dreary shite |
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Post by _ on Nov 13, 2018 12:10:49 GMT
But Fellaini wasn’t the problem, Herrera was the weak link in our midfield yesterday. Mata should’ve started in his place along with Sanchez for Lingard. he wasn't the problem, but hes not the answer either. fellaini is a sub. he comes on near the end and causes havoc. hes fresh and full of energy and can get about people. against city, you need energy and people who can keep and rotate the ball. theres one of our problems. we don't have a set and practiced style. if one player is out our whole dynamic changes. compared to other teams they have someone out and then the player comin in knows what theyre supposed to do and so does everyone else around them, cos It doesn't chancge. I honestly wonder what they do in trainin, because 3 years down the line and its still the same dreary shite I don't know if you watched the Spurs v City game recently. They are actually very similar, in how they play and it's constant and consistent. That kind of practice and repetition makes it easier for players and easier to recruit. ( well it is for City anyway  Spurs were unlucky in that game they had the chances to draw or win. Lamela missed a sitter, but you could actually the see the ball bobble on the NFL pitch, despite disadvantages they still play the same level most games, as you say it's a style of play they are used to playing and they don't change every game depending on the opposition. It's also why England have improved so much, not really because of Southgate although he has utilised the coaching the players get at club level and allowed them to try and play that game at International level! They are made up of Spurs and City players mostly with a couple of Dippers and Rashford The point is they were both pretty much playing the same game, pressing and passing in tight spots with nice movement at speed. 11- V 11 so to speak Spurs are very similar to City. City have a massively more expensive and bigger squad. Your point is bang on |
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Post by Karma on Nov 13, 2018 12:17:13 GMT
he wasn't the problem, but hes not the answer either. fellaini is a sub. he comes on near the end and causes havoc. hes fresh and full of energy and can get about people. against city, you need energy and people who can keep and rotate the ball. theres one of our problems. we don't have a set and practiced style. if one player is out our whole dynamic changes. compared to other teams they have someone out and then the player comin in knows what theyre supposed to do and so does everyone else around them, cos It doesn't chancge. I honestly wonder what they do in trainin, because 3 years down the line and its still the same dreary shite I don't know if you watched the Spurs v City game recently. They are actually very similar, in how they play and it's constant and consistent. That kind of practice and repetition makes it easier for players and easier to recruit. ( well it is for City anyway Spurs were unlucky in that game they had the chances to draw or win. Lamela missed a sitter, but you could actually the see the ball bobble on the NFL pitch, despite disadvantages they still play the same level most games, as you say it's a style of play they are used to playing and they don't change every game depending on the opposition. It's also why England have improved so much, not really because of Southgate although he has utilised the coaching the players get at club level and allowed them to try and play that game at International level! They are made up of Spurs and City players mostly with a couple of Dippers and Rashford The point is they were both pretty much playing the same game, pressing and passing in tight spots with nice movement at speed. 11- V 11 so to speak Spurs are very similar to City. City have a massively more expensive and bigger squad. Your point is bang on I don't think Spurs were unlucky whatsoever in that game. City should have won by more. |
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Post by caino on Nov 13, 2018 12:19:24 GMT
he wasn't the problem, but hes not the answer either. fellaini is a sub. he comes on near the end and causes havoc. hes fresh and full of energy and can get about people. against city, you need energy and people who can keep and rotate the ball. theres one of our problems. we don't have a set and practiced style. if one player is out our whole dynamic changes. compared to other teams they have someone out and then the player comin in knows what theyre supposed to do and so does everyone else around them, cos It doesn't chancge. I honestly wonder what they do in trainin, because 3 years down the line and its still the same dreary shite I don't know if you watched the Spurs v City game recently. They are actually very similar, in how they play and it's constant and consistent. That kind of practice and repetition makes it easier for players and easier to recruit. ( well it is for City anyway Spurs were unlucky in that game they had the chances to draw or win. Lamela missed a sitter, but you could actually the see the ball bobble on the NFL pitch, despite disadvantages they still play the same level most games, as you say it's a style of play they are used to playing and they don't change every game depending on the opposition. It's also why England have improved so much, not really because of Southgate although he has utilised the coaching the players get at club level and allowed them to try and play that game at International level! They are made up of Spurs and City players mostly with a couple of Dippers and Rashford The point is they were both pretty much playing the same game, pressing and passing in tight spots with nice movement at speed. 11- V 11 so to speak Spurs are very similar to City. City have a massively more expensive and bigger squad. Your point is bang on that's why more than ever we need a DoF that seams to have gone away after the last round of uproar. news were getting one, fans go quiet. doesn't happen and is forgotten about. the owners and jose are taking the piss out of all us fans. were going round in circles every couple of months. |
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