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Post by Karma on Dec 3, 2018 14:49:19 GMT
Can one of the mods not add a few more names? Would have to delete and redo the entire poll. You have my permission!  |
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Post by Bestie on Dec 3, 2018 15:06:10 GMT
Would have to delete and redo the entire poll. You have my permission! Urgh. Bloody polls. |
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Post by alt on Dec 3, 2018 15:16:20 GMT
Forget the likes of Ancelotti, we should be thinking long term with a young, modern manager. Appoint Paul Mitchell or someone alike as DoF, then bring in Pochettino. If he's not available, Howe would be an interesting option, I'd put money on him not been a big enough name for Ed though.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Dec 3, 2018 15:35:20 GMT
If you are redoing the poll, might I suggest that we can pick 3 options rather than one? Many of us don't have a definitive first choice I reckon.
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Post by stilgar on Dec 3, 2018 15:47:25 GMT
Get a decent DOF through the door,someone that can work with & support someone like Howe,it could not be any worse than it is now. Given that we already have a manager living off former glories,I'd happily take Howe as refreshing alternative all the post Fergie appointments. I'd like a good DOF too. Let's assume for the sake of the argument that the board realizes that they need a DOF with full power not just some puppet for the sake of appearance. How will they find a good suitable DOF, if they can't find a good suitable manager? They can screw this up the same way they screwed up the manager problem. |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Dec 3, 2018 17:00:35 GMT
Unfortunately I can see the club going after Conte because he's managed Pogba before. Ed will be more concerned about keeping his marketable stars and he with the board may view this as a move to keep Pogba happy.
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Post by _ on Dec 3, 2018 18:07:58 GMT
Take a risk on a talented youngish manager, who has never had the resources we have or an experienced one who is liked and really good at creating a good atmosphere
1. A good Coach, capable of developing young players and a track record of playing attacking football
2. Anyone who likes to do most his work without the press or cameras, Anyone who is about the club and players and not himself. Anyone who doesn't have an Ego the size of Greater Manchester
3. A winning mentality( It doesn't have to be major competitions.. Turning Bournemouth into a very good top 10 team in the PL from almost extinction in no time is better than winning an FA CUP or so ( Turning Spurs into one of the most entertaining teams and regular top 4 from the shit show they were etc or the best football Southampton have played since the 70's>> That should all count
4. Long term appointment
5. An experienced DOF
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Post by Karma on Dec 3, 2018 18:15:39 GMT
Unfortunately I can see the club going after Conte because he's managed Pogba before. Ed will be more concerned about keeping his marketable stars and he with the board may view this as a move to keep Pogba happy. Good thinking Batman. I think this is more of a goer than I think the fans expect. I still think Allegri is worth looking at. There seem to be a lot of rumours that this may be his last season especially with Zidane being available! |
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Post by Deez on Dec 3, 2018 18:34:35 GMT
Poch or Jardim for me
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Post by GeniusCantona on Dec 3, 2018 19:36:09 GMT
Unfortunately I can see the club going after Conte because he's managed Pogba before. Ed will be more concerned about keeping his marketable stars and he with the board may view this as a move to keep Pogba happy. Good thinking Batman. I think this is more of a goer than I think the fans expect. I still think Allegri is worth looking at. There seem to be a lot of rumours that this may be his last season especially with Zidane being available! I can only imagine the meltdown here if it happens with Conte being the 4th defensive minded manager in a row. It unfortunately makes a lot of sense when you consider that he highly rated Lukaku as well. Conte to United is such an Ed Woodward move and Conte would probably relish the chance to show up Jose a second time. Jardim or Poch are unfortunately not the type of moves that Noodle man Ed is capable of considering. |
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Post by mightyez on Dec 3, 2018 22:53:53 GMT
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Post by Karma on Dec 3, 2018 23:42:08 GMT
Not really surprised the British press are bigging up one of their own, some still think Moyes was hard done by. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 1:25:12 GMT
Not really surprised the British press are bigging up one of their own, some still think Moyes was hard done by. They aren't wrong. If he was foreign he'd have been at a big club by now. |
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Post by imat16 on Dec 4, 2018 6:46:39 GMT
I think we need to tone down on the expectations for a quick fix and appoint Howie. Imo if he has the bravery to play that style at Bournemouth I am sure he won't be hiding when he gets the chance at a bigger club. With the players we already have in the squad and a few additions I think he will do the job if given time. You can't give anyone time in this gig. It's top 4 or bust. You have to hit the ground running immediately. The gimps won't be happy to watch some nice football at the expense of CL qualification every season. I think one of the reasons Jose is still in a job is his CV. That along with the gimps obviously getting cold sweats when having to make managerial decisions either hiring and firing. Howe has absolutely nothing to fall back on if we lose a few games and the press are circling! I think we need to accept that this seeking the top 4 business has actually cost us organic growth of the team and we have not managed to make a dent on the CL because our approach is too hectic on the football side. Klopp has come in and did fail to reach the CL but has gotten his team within striking distance of actually winning the thing and they are now established as a title challenger because they have built their team according to how he wants to play and everyone in the squad has bought in to the style. Howie may not have anything to fall back on other than his skill as a coach but I would rather have a manager who brings back the excitement and positivity at OT, one who can actually build teams to play to his vision and provide him with the support he needs e.g a DOF etc to give him the best chance. Hiring the best CV hasn't worked because we are looking at the past not the future, in 2014 Tottenham hired Pochettino after we hijacked their pursuit of LVG guess who is regretting now? Let's dare to dream again and look at tomorrow's men not yesterday's like we have done with Mourinho and Van Gaal. If Howie had achieved what he has achieved in Germany and Spain he'd be guaranteed of his shot at one of the big two right now. We have to rid ourselves of this thinking that we can get a magical pill out this slump, we need a major rebuild and we need to have a vision of the football we want to see on the pitch before we think of the trophies or the shirt sales. Let Woodward and the Glazers squeeze all they can out of the United brand but let's have serious football men doing what is necessary to pull us out of this rut. |
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Post by imat16 on Dec 4, 2018 7:08:56 GMT
We need a coach,someone that is capable of improving players & giving them direction to play within a system. The financial model under the Glazers has changed,we are now never going to compete or challenge clubs with the spending power like City,Madird etc for the worlds best players. Someone like Eddie Howe fits that profile,he also has experience of the premier league,obvious negatives are that he has no Euro experience & is probably not deemed a high enough profile name for Woodward to even consider him,given the mess we are in ,honestly don't think we could attract a high profile manager,unless they are passed there best.
Get a decent DOF through the door,someone that can work with & support someone like Howe,it could not be any worse than it is now.
Given that we already have a manager living off former glories,I'd happily take Howe as a refreshing alternative all the post Fergie appointments. This and the club could actually help the new man by removing the unnecessary pressure of going back to the top immediately, the club we are competing against built their teams by signing their stalwarts like Hazard, Mane, Aguerro etc years ago whilst we have pissed money on players who didn't suit their managers, has-beens and overrated trash like Di Maria so we need to accept that in defence and attack we don't have consistent performers who can immediately fire us to a league title or deep CL run and those players now cost what the Glazers are unwilling to spend. Looking at that a manager like Zidane isn't going to risk his reputation on a major rebuild against established teams like City and Liverpool in the knowledge that the Glazers won't back him all the way. Howe on the other hand will have an appreciation of what this football club is all about and can produce the type of football we demand. I think trophies will naturally follow good football and thats what we need to aim at first. |
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