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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 13:45:37 GMT
A Bola reporting Jardim has turned down the mega money move to Saudi Arabia due to ongoing talks with a Premier League club. MOTWYW. Oh, yes please... Is he better than Eddie Howe? |
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Post by Tatty on Dec 7, 2018 13:57:58 GMT
Is he better than Eddie Howe? Depends on your definition of better. We're getting linked to lots of 'younger' players. If that's the route we're going to increase re-sale value, then Jardim is probably the best man for the job. Plus, his Monaco side were breathtaking to watch at times. |
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Post by redcase on Dec 7, 2018 14:10:29 GMT
Is he better than Eddie Howe? Depends on your definition of better. We're getting linked to lots of 'younger' players. If that's the route we're going to increase re-sale value, then Jardim is probably the best man for the job. Plus, his Monaco side were breathtaking to watch at times. Stop giving Ed ideas.... |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Dec 7, 2018 14:17:22 GMT
Yet they've just appointed Hassenhutl... Oh didn’t know that. That raises my hopes a bit! |
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Post by Tatty on Dec 7, 2018 14:18:22 GMT
Yet they've just appointed Hassenhutl... Oh didn’t know that. That raises my hopes a bit! Ha. No problemo. It'd reek of Woowar if we weren't in for Jardim, though. |
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Post by Bestie on Dec 7, 2018 14:20:38 GMT
A Bola reporting Jardim has turned down the mega money move to Saudi Arabia due to ongoing talks with a Premier League club. MOTWYW. are they reliable?  |
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Post by RAZ on Dec 7, 2018 15:31:20 GMT
if there is any truth in that,there's a high chance its us,since none of the other big teams are currently in need for a new manager. i like jardim but not sure i want him at united after seeing what happened at monaco at the end. but truth be told,you can hardly blame him for what happens at monaco every season or so. he might be the perfect fit for us,with a DoF |
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Post by Karma on Dec 7, 2018 18:50:19 GMT
Is he better than Eddie Howe? Depends on your definition of better. We're getting linked to lots of 'younger' players. If that's the route we're going to increase re-sale value, then Jardim is probably the best man for the job. Plus, his Monaco side were breathtaking to watch at times. Yep that's why Pep pilidged them at the end of his no trophy season. |
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Post by Karma on Dec 8, 2018 17:25:31 GMT
So Howe is on the end of another defeat against a decent team.
United can't afford to sign another manager who can't win against the big boys.
He probably needs to move to a bigger club but this job is far too big for him yet.
Had the owners done their homework on his record against the big teams Moyes would never have got through the door in the first place. Thinking he would be a cheaper option with Fergie pushing the appointment back fired.
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Post by mightyez on Dec 8, 2018 17:42:28 GMT
So Howe is on the end of another defeat against a decent team. United can't afford to sign another manager who can't win against the big boys. He probably needs to move to a bigger club but this job is far too big for him yet. Had the owners done their homework on his record against the big teams Moyes would never have got through the door in the first place. Thinking he would be a cheaper option with Fergie pushing the appointment back fired. Face the facts, howe is a good coach, his team played good football we just don't do. We have good players therefore they need a forward thinking coach, the top candidates that have been mentioned are very good coaches and with the players at this club can do well. You post but forget to mention they had 2 massive players in their relatively small squad out And they aren't a decent team, they are a very good team, not playing at 80% of what they can but top of the league, i think your honest enough to realise and admit that's beyond decent. lastly if they are decent we are absolute trash |
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Post by Karma on Dec 8, 2018 17:50:37 GMT
So Howe is on the end of another defeat against a decent team. United can't afford to sign another manager who can't win against the big boys. He probably needs to move to a bigger club but this job is far too big for him yet. Had the owners done their homework on his record against the big teams Moyes would never have got through the door in the first place. Thinking he would be a cheaper option with Fergie pushing the appointment back fired. Face the facts, howe is a good coach, his team played good football we just don't do. We have good players therefore they need a forward thinking coach, the top candidates that have been mentioned are very good coaches and with the players at this club can do well. You post but forget to mention they had 2 massive players in their relatively small squad out This job needs more than just a good coach. I imagine they thought Moyes would make the step up with more money and would take on a challenge. We also don't have owners who would move him on quickly if he proved completely out of his depth like Moyes was. There are plenty of good coaches who don't necessarily make good managers. Brian Kidd was one, Rene Mulenstein and Carlos Quieroz were others, that's just at this club. |
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Post by mightyez on Dec 8, 2018 17:56:46 GMT
Face the facts, howe is a good coach, his team played good football we just don't do. We have good players therefore they need a forward thinking coach, the top candidates that have been mentioned are very good coaches and with the players at this club can do well. You post but forget to mention they had 2 massive players in their relatively small squad out This job needs more than just a good coach. I imagine they thought Moyes would make the step up with more money and would take on a challenge. We also don't have owners who would move him on quickly if he proved completely out of his depth like Moyes was. There are plenty of good coaches who don't necessarily make good managers. Brian Kidd was one, Rene Mulenstein and Carlos Quieroz were others, that's just at this club. Stop mentioning Moyes, we all know where and who made that appointment. Howe is already managing and doing a damn fine job, comparing him with all those names makes no sense, apologies if I am missing the link. Yes the job needs more than a coach, it needs a separation of Ed from football activities. If that’s done wonderful, if not more of a reason a coach who is forwarding thinking and happy to create something is needed |
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Post by Karma on Dec 8, 2018 18:24:10 GMT
This job needs more than just a good coach. I imagine they thought Moyes would make the step up with more money and would take on a challenge. We also don't have owners who would move him on quickly if he proved completely out of his depth like Moyes was. There are plenty of good coaches who don't necessarily make good managers. Brian Kidd was one, Rene Mulenstein and Carlos Quieroz were others, that's just at this club. Stop mentioning Moyes, we all know where and who made that appointment. Howe is already managing and doing a damn fine job, comparing him with all those names makes no sense, apologies if I am missing the link. Yes the job needs more than a coach, it needs a separation of Ed from football activities. If that’s done wonderful, if not more of a reason a coach who is forwarding thinking and happy to create something is needed It needs more than just a good structure behind a manager, because he would be a rookie manager. Ask yourself , would City, Chelsea or Liverpool appoint him? Spurs might but none of those other clubs would. Moyes won fuck all before he joined United, one 4th place finish in all his time at Everton. Just because he was a bit of a dinosaur doesn't mean the criteria changes. That's where any comparison lies. |
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Post by mightyez on Dec 8, 2018 18:32:33 GMT
Stop mentioning Moyes, we all know where and who made that appointment. Howe is already managing and doing a damn fine job, comparing him with all those names makes no sense, apologies if I am missing the link. Yes the job needs more than a coach, it needs a separation of Ed from football activities. If that’s done wonderful, if not more of a reason a coach who is forwarding thinking and happy to create something is needed It needs more than just a good structure behind a manager, because he would be a rookie manager. Ask yourself , would City, Chelsea or Liverpool appoint him? Spurs might but none of those other clubs would. Moyes won fuck all before he joined United, one 4th place finish in all his time at Everton. Just because he was a bit of a dinosaur doesn't mean the criteria changes. That's where any comparison lies. I get what you are saying. I wouldn’t call him a rookie, he is an experienced premier league manager. Appointing a good coach has worked out well for Spurs. Klopp went through a mad time at Dortmund but as he showed their he is a man that can coach and play good football. We aren’t city, they want ready made at any cost. I’d give the job to Howe in a heartbeat if the likes of Poch can’t be attained, but to flippantly dismiss him on the basis he has lost to the league leaders I won’t do. Let’s get this right they should have trounced us, if he had our players I am very sure they would have. |
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Post by Karma on Dec 8, 2018 18:51:48 GMT
It needs more than just a good structure behind a manager, because he would be a rookie manager. Ask yourself , would City, Chelsea or Liverpool appoint him? Spurs might but none of those other clubs would. Moyes won fuck all before he joined United, one 4th place finish in all his time at Everton. Just because he was a bit of a dinosaur doesn't mean the criteria changes. That's where any comparison lies. I get what you are saying. I wouldn’t call him a rookie, he is an experienced premier league manager. Appointing a good coach has worked out well for Spurs. Klopp went through a mad time at Dortmund but as he showed their he is a man that can coach and play good football. We aren’t city, they want ready made at any cost. I’d give the job to Howe in a heartbeat if the likes of Poch can’t be attained, but to flippantly dismiss him on the basis he has lost to the league leaders I won’t do. Let’s get this right they should have trounced us, if he had our players I am very sure they would have. You are entitled to your opinion but I think it would be batshit mental to appoint him after Jose. Whether they should have trounced us or not, they lost that game, as they did against Liverpool, Arsenal and City. The Wolves manager should be ahead of him if we were to gamble ! |
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