Vs Paris St-Germain 12/02/2019 20:00 GMT KO (H)

[GeniusCantona]

Feb 13, 2019 12:12:16 GMT Stew said:

Feb 13, 2019 12:00:25 GMT @redpilgrim said:

Are these actually capable of translating what we so last night to constructive measures? Are they actually interested in getting us any higher than just making the top 4?

We’ll find out soon enough.

In 3 out of the last 4 summer windows we’ve spent a lot of money. Not the most money but large chunks. Not all of it well but still. For me last summer is the key. Was it because the board thought giving it to an increasingly toxic manager was a waste or was it more worrying than that? Hopefully it’s because they didn’t want to give any more to Jose. Anything else and it’s difficult to see a way out of this mess.

As much as the board and Ed deserve to be shat on and criticized, there is some sense to the argument that they didn’t want to further back Jose. Failing to get a CB was inexcusable but then they were right on Perisic. My feeling is they will back Ole if he’s named manager. It’s clear though we don’t have an unlimited budget like Ed wanted us to believe so the signings need to be spot on. And again that brings us back on the need for a DOF.

[Karma]

Feb 13, 2019 13:06:51 GMT GeniusCantona said:

Feb 13, 2019 12:12:16 GMT Stew said:

We’ll find out soon enough.

In 3 out of the last 4 summer windows we’ve spent a lot of money. Not the most money but large chunks. Not all of it well but still. For me last summer is the key. Was it because the board thought giving it to an increasingly toxic manager was a waste or was it more worrying than that? Hopefully it’s because they didn’t want to give any more to Jose. Anything else and it’s difficult to see a way out of this mess.

As much as the board and Ed deserve to be shat on and criticized, there is some sense to the argument that they didn’t want to further back Jose. Failing to get a CB was inexcusable but then they were right on Perisic. My feeling is they will back Ole if he’s named manager. It’s clear though we don’t have an unlimited budget like Ed wanted us to believe so the signings need to be spot on. And again that brings us back on the need for a DOF.

Of course we can't compete with the oil clubs but making do isn't an option either. I wouldn't be surprised if Wolves don't break into the top 6 sooner rather than later.  There are a few teams just behind us who are more than capable especially if they are outspending us! We have a good enough team for top 4 but if some of our better  players decide they have more ambition than that then we are well and truly screwed.

Only a matter of time before Riola starts agitating for more lunch money!

[Rustin Cohle]

A few F365 articles:

www.football365.com/news/f365-says-psg-prove-man-utd-cannot-live-on-positivity-alone

F365 Says: PSG prove Man Utd cannot live on positivity alone

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Having soared in recent weeks to what appeared to be a five-and-a-half-year high, Manchester United’s stock was due a correction. But after Paris Saint-Germain had made patsies of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s men, it felt like more of a crash at Old Trafford.

The Champions League last 16 first-leg meeting turned out to be everything United fans feared when the draw was made back in the dark days of December. That was before Jose Mourinho’s snark gave way to Solskjaer’s smile, and though the caretaker boss has worked wonders in wringing as much out of his players as possible, Thomas Tuchel’s side demonstrated that Man Utd cannot live on positive vibes alone.

Of course, the tie is not over – but realistically, it is. Solskjaer will take his side to Paris in three weeks in an attempt to overturn a two-goal deficit certainly without Paul Pogba and perhaps without two of his other brightest attacking prospects, Anthony Martial and Jesse Lingard.

Martial and Lingard had to be replaced halfway through what had been a cagey affair between two sides seemingly wary of making a mistake. United have had only one Champions League first leg tie at home in the last 10 years, while PSG have been badly exposed at this same stage in the two previous seasons when they had ambitions of going all the way.

When positivity was required, surprisingly, it was Solskjaer’s side who were caught out. PSG seemed to take the introduction of Juan Mata and Alexis Sanchez as their cue to up the tempo and when they did, United had no response, either in halting the visitors’ charge or offering any kind of counter. Fittingly given the identity of their second scorer, once Kylian Mbappe had doubled the advantage, PSG were off into the distance and United were left choking on dust.

In that decisive period after the break, the Parisians showed exactly the type of quality Tuchel was crying out for – literally – during a scrappy first half littered with errors and breaks in play. Marco Verratti and Marquinos were everywhere, denying United any rhythm to build up a head of steam, and after the break, they built the platform upon which Angel Di Maria and Mbappe ruthlessly put United to the sword.

It had to be Di Maria. The ex-United record signing was booed all night, with the home fans’ only highlight coming when their former No.7 was sent hurtling towards the South Stand by Ashley Young’s nudge. He may be a ‘complete fanny’ but, uncharacteristically – if his year at Old Trafford is any measure – Di Maria dusted himself down and seemed hell-bent on making his point, which he did. Twice. First with a devilish corner that dissected Nemanja Matic and David de Gea at the far post, seven minutes before he teed up Mbappe for the second on the hour.

It seemed to matter not one jot that PSG were without Neymar and Edinson Cavani. Pogba thought United were ‘lucky’ to avoid facing Neymar but that was only the first thing the France star got wrong around this tie. PSG are a far more solid unit without Neymar flouting his duties, with Tuchel’s side conceding a goal a game in the Brazilian’s presence this term but only four in 12 matches without him. That extra robustness came in handy, with PSG keeping their first clean sheet in the Champions League for 11 games – a run that goes back to October 2017.

Pogba’s prediction was off, and so was his approach. The United midfielder had been one of Solskjaer’s brightest stars during the 11 previous games of the caretaker boss’s reign but, against his hometown team, Pogba was nullified. Partly by Marquinhos, Verratti and Dani Alves, but also by his own over-heightened sense of arousal. Mourinho felt Pogba was too laid back but the opposite appeared true tonight. Already on a needless booking and having narrowly swerved a second soon after for a lunge on Dani Alves, Pogba eventually saw red when he couldn’t resist leaving a mark on the Brazil veteran, shortly after the PSG flier had done the same to him.

Pogba’s recklessness leaves Solskjaer without his most creative influence for a second leg after which – if the scoreline is overturned – the caretaker should not only be given the permanent job immediately, but should probably be granted a statue too. Martial and Lingard’s absence will be as keenly felt. The first half showed that United’s physical qualities could counter PSG’s quality, but a deficit in both aspects makes for a tough night in Paris.

www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-loser-alexis-sanchez-wandering-like-a-soul-in-pain

F365’s early loser: Alexis Sanchez, ‘wandering like a soul in pain’

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For a cutting assessment, go to the Manchester Evening News, who describe the introduction of Alexis Sanchez as the moment Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ‘effectively reduced United to 10 men’.

For poetry, we should of course go to Paris, where L’Equipe described Sanchez as ‘wandering like a soul in pain’, which is a beautiful way to describe a man who played like a latter-day Wayne Rooney, ghosting through a game without leaving any impression but sadness.

His performance was so poor that even Solskjaer allowed his mask to slip. Six weeks after describing Sanchez as “chomping at the bit” to get on the pitch and a month since suggesting the Chilean has “a new lease of life” under his management at Manchester United, Solskjaer sounded rather more like a previous Manchester United manager when he opined: “I can’t do anything about Alexis Sanchez.”

The Norwegian could coax Anthony Martial and cajole Paul Pogba, but he has found himself at a loss for ways to motivate Sanchez, who looks like a man who has fallen out of love with football. Football has certainly fallen out of love with him. Whether that is a consequence of 11 months of Jose Mourinho, the guilt of a terrible decision made in rejecting Manchester City, the consequence of over a decade of relentless football or simply a personal melancholy, it is painful to watch.

The legs are slow, the touch is poor, the desire to be involved in every moment of every match – a desire so intense that it sometimes edged over into ‘flaw’ territory at Arsenal – has disappeared. The shoots of recovery – seen in victory over Newcastle in early January – have been trampled down by heavy legs. He was awful against Leicester on February 3, playing so safely and so predictably that he looked out of step with his more dynamic teammates. In games against Burnley and then against the Foxes, the thinness of United’s squad was exposed. Worryingly, the exit of the injured Jesse Lingard from the Champions League stage pretty much sounded the death knell for United’s chances.

“The reality is Jesse and Anthony are part of our squad playing really well but in the second half we didn’t have as much movement and couldn’t get in behind,” said Solskjaer, who spoke of needing to find a “new way to play” in the absence of his quicker players. It’s the closest he has come to throwing any players under a bus, with Juan Mata and Sanchez the two players teetering on the edge of the curb. It already seems incredibly likely that both will leave this summer, with Romelu Lukaku joining the list of unwanted substitutes.

The audible groans of the United fans when Sanchez was flagged offside against PSG on Tuesday night suggested that patience has almost dwindled into nonexistence at Old Trafford when it comes to the Chilean; most would like to see him wander right out of the club. The only question is whether any club will pay the wages of a soul in pain.

www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-winner-kylian-mbappe-the-anti-neymar

F365’s early winner: Kylian Mbappe, the anti-Neymar

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“I do not care about the Ballon d’Or, I want the World Cup,” he said as France booked their place in the final with victory over Croatia. The contrast with his PSG teammate Neymar could not be greater. This is a player who left Barcelona basically to be the main man, to give himself the chance to play No. 10, to win individual awards, to strengthen his brand. How ironic then, that the move only took him further away from those individual awards, dropping from third in 2017’s Ballon d’Or rankings to 12th in 2018. Mbappe? He rose from seventh to fourth. Winning a World Cup helps, but basically the boy is bloody brilliant.

His goal against Manchester United was his 14th in the Champions League in just 24 appearances, drawing him level with the original Ronaldo (who took 40 games to reach that number) and taking him within this season’s reach of Ronaldinho and his 18 strikes. Within two seasons we should reasonably expect to find him claiming the scalp of Rivaldo (27). He will still only be 22.

Right now he is still only 20 and not just the greatest young player in world football but very close to being the greatest of all players in world football. Not that he cares. He is just hungry to add to a trophy collection that is already utterly ridiculous – two Ligue Un titles, a World Cup and a couple of domestic trinkets have been claimed as a teenager. Show-off. His ambition to add the Champions League with PSG is palpable, driven not by a selfish greed for glory but a desire to conquer all, particularly with his hometown club.

“We are annoyed because we could have scored a third,” said an unsmiling Mbappe after the 2-0 victory at Old Trafford. He added that “in the last 20 minutes we dropped off a bit physically”, as though winning 2-0 really wasn’t all that. It’s difficult to imagine any other young footballer finding fault with his team’s performance just seconds after the final whistle of a game they had won at a canter. But this is Mbappe and he is notoriously driven by a quest for trophies.

“The Champions League is a dream, a competition that everyone wants to win and that only a minority can win – the most important are the titles,” said an 18-year-old Mbappe in 2017. “That would be much more of an obsession for me than the Ballon d’Or, for example. I want to touch the stars and, when you dream, you do not dream of playing the middle of the table or maintaining it.”

He may not dream of the Ballon d’Or but it is likely to be an inevitable consequence of his phenomenal talent, aided but not defined by the kind of speed that can make you chuckle out loud. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer selected Eric Bailly over Phil Jones for his pace on Tuesday night, but it was akin to selecting a hare instead of a tortoise to chase a panther. Combine that speed with intelligence, an excellent first touch and a striker’s instinct and you arrive at Mbappe, who has already scored 23 goals this season and could end the campaign in 40-plus Messi territory. Those who counter those numbers with ‘it’s only France’ should note that he has also scored against Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool, Juventus and now United. And yes, he is still only 20.

For comparison, Lionel Messi had scored just two Champions League goals by the summer he turned 20. And Cristiano Ronaldo had not scored a single Champions League goal by the summer after his 20th birthday in February.

Kylian Mbappe is just two months into his 20s and has already scored 14 Champions League goals. It’s the kind of achievement that’s only really possible if you come off the pitch ‘annoyed’ that 2-0 did not become 3-0. And it’s the kind of achievement that leaves you in touching distance of those stars.

www.football365.com/news/man-u-legend-psg-loss-proves-jose-was-right-about-one-thing

Peter Schmeichel: PSG loss proves Jose was right about one thing

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Peter Schmeichel thinks Manchester United’s loss against Paris Saint-Germain on Tuesday night showed that Jose Mourinho was right to plead with the club to sign a new centre-back.

PSG were shorn of Edinson Cavani and Neymar for the first leg of this Champions League last 16 tie but still proved too strong for United as Presnel Kimpembe and Kylian Mbappe secured a 2-0 win at Old Trafford.

Mourinho had publicly rowed with Ed Woodward over their lack of defensive reinforcements in the summer and his time at United eventually came to an end in December after a number of poor performances.

And Schmeichel thinks their “problem” at centre-half was badly “exploited” by PSG on Tuesday, an issue Mourinho identified long before his dismissal.

Schmeichel told BeIn Sports: “I don’t think anyone… you can get carried away because you’re a fan, you’re allowed to be carried away with the 10 wins in 11 games but in the broader perspective we already know Mourinho was fighting to get a centre-half or even two in the summer.

“He was doing that because there is a problem in centre-half or in central defence.

“There are a few guys out there who can do the job but that problem hasn’t gone away. That was exploited today.”

[On a break]

It's hard to believe how fans like us can see the problems we have that have been around for years yet they have not been addressed?

The CB issue, better midfield players needed, the right wing..why is Sanchez not being tried more on the right because he sure as fuck can't be any worse than he's been on the left.

[Karma]

Feb 13, 2019 13:47:50 GMT Rustin Cohle said:

A few F365 articles:

www.football365.com/news/f365-says-psg-prove-man-utd-cannot-live-on-positivity-alone

F365 Says: PSG prove Man Utd cannot live on positivity alone

SPOILER: Click to show

Having soared in recent weeks to what appeared to be a five-and-a-half-year high, Manchester United’s stock was due a correction. But after Paris Saint-Germain had made patsies of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s men, it felt like more of a crash at Old Trafford.

The Champions League last 16 first-leg meeting turned out to be everything United fans feared when the draw was made back in the dark days of December. That was before Jose Mourinho’s snark gave way to Solskjaer’s smile, and though the caretaker boss has worked wonders in wringing as much out of his players as possible, Thomas Tuchel’s side demonstrated that Man Utd cannot live on positive vibes alone.

Of course, the tie is not over – but realistically, it is. Solskjaer will take his side to Paris in three weeks in an attempt to overturn a two-goal deficit certainly without Paul Pogba and perhaps without two of his other brightest attacking prospects, Anthony Martial and Jesse Lingard.

Martial and Lingard had to be replaced halfway through what had been a cagey affair between two sides seemingly wary of making a mistake. United have had only one Champions League first leg tie at home in the last 10 years, while PSG have been badly exposed at this same stage in the two previous seasons when they had ambitions of going all the way.

When positivity was required, surprisingly, it was Solskjaer’s side who were caught out. PSG seemed to take the introduction of Juan Mata and Alexis Sanchez as their cue to up the tempo and when they did, United had no response, either in halting the visitors’ charge or offering any kind of counter. Fittingly given the identity of their second scorer, once Kylian Mbappe had doubled the advantage, PSG were off into the distance and United were left choking on dust.

In that decisive period after the break, the Parisians showed exactly the type of quality Tuchel was crying out for – literally – during a scrappy first half littered with errors and breaks in play. Marco Verratti and Marquinos were everywhere, denying United any rhythm to build up a head of steam, and after the break, they built the platform upon which Angel Di Maria and Mbappe ruthlessly put United to the sword.

It had to be Di Maria. The ex-United record signing was booed all night, with the home fans’ only highlight coming when their former No.7 was sent hurtling towards the South Stand by Ashley Young’s nudge. He may be a ‘complete fanny’ but, uncharacteristically – if his year at Old Trafford is any measure – Di Maria dusted himself down and seemed hell-bent on making his point, which he did. Twice. First with a devilish corner that dissected Nemanja Matic and David de Gea at the far post, seven minutes before he teed up Mbappe for the second on the hour.

It seemed to matter not one jot that PSG were without Neymar and Edinson Cavani. Pogba thought United were ‘lucky’ to avoid facing Neymar but that was only the first thing the France star got wrong around this tie. PSG are a far more solid unit without Neymar flouting his duties, with Tuchel’s side conceding a goal a game in the Brazilian’s presence this term but only four in 12 matches without him. That extra robustness came in handy, with PSG keeping their first clean sheet in the Champions League for 11 games – a run that goes back to October 2017.

Pogba’s prediction was off, and so was his approach. The United midfielder had been one of Solskjaer’s brightest stars during the 11 previous games of the caretaker boss’s reign but, against his hometown team, Pogba was nullified. Partly by Marquinhos, Verratti and Dani Alves, but also by his own over-heightened sense of arousal. Mourinho felt Pogba was too laid back but the opposite appeared true tonight. Already on a needless booking and having narrowly swerved a second soon after for a lunge on Dani Alves, Pogba eventually saw red when he couldn’t resist leaving a mark on the Brazil veteran, shortly after the PSG flier had done the same to him.

Pogba’s recklessness leaves Solskjaer without his most creative influence for a second leg after which – if the scoreline is overturned – the caretaker should not only be given the permanent job immediately, but should probably be granted a statue too. Martial and Lingard’s absence will be as keenly felt. The first half showed that United’s physical qualities could counter PSG’s quality, but a deficit in both aspects makes for a tough night in Paris.

www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-loser-alexis-sanchez-wandering-like-a-soul-in-pain

F365’s early loser: Alexis Sanchez, ‘wandering like a soul in pain’

SPOILER: Click to show

For a cutting assessment, go to the Manchester Evening News, who describe the introduction of Alexis Sanchez as the moment Ole Gunnar Solskjaer ‘effectively reduced United to 10 men’.

For poetry, we should of course go to Paris, where L’Equipe described Sanchez as ‘wandering like a soul in pain’, which is a beautiful way to describe a man who played like a latter-day Wayne Rooney, ghosting through a game without leaving any impression but sadness.

His performance was so poor that even Solskjaer allowed his mask to slip. Six weeks after describing Sanchez as “chomping at the bit” to get on the pitch and a month since suggesting the Chilean has “a new lease of life” under his management at Manchester United, Solskjaer sounded rather more like a previous Manchester United manager when he opined: “I can’t do anything about Alexis Sanchez.”

The Norwegian could coax Anthony Martial and cajole Paul Pogba, but he has found himself at a loss for ways to motivate Sanchez, who looks like a man who has fallen out of love with football. Football has certainly fallen out of love with him. Whether that is a consequence of 11 months of Jose Mourinho, the guilt of a terrible decision made in rejecting Manchester City, the consequence of over a decade of relentless football or simply a personal melancholy, it is painful to watch.

The legs are slow, the touch is poor, the desire to be involved in every moment of every match – a desire so intense that it sometimes edged over into ‘flaw’ territory at Arsenal – has disappeared. The shoots of recovery – seen in victory over Newcastle in early January – have been trampled down by heavy legs. He was awful against Leicester on February 3, playing so safely and so predictably that he looked out of step with his more dynamic teammates. In games against Burnley and then against the Foxes, the thinness of United’s squad was exposed. Worryingly, the exit of the injured Jesse Lingard from the Champions League stage pretty much sounded the death knell for United’s chances.

“The reality is Jesse and Anthony are part of our squad playing really well but in the second half we didn’t have as much movement and couldn’t get in behind,” said Solskjaer, who spoke of needing to find a “new way to play” in the absence of his quicker players. It’s the closest he has come to throwing any players under a bus, with Juan Mata and Sanchez the two players teetering on the edge of the curb. It already seems incredibly likely that both will leave this summer, with Romelu Lukaku joining the list of unwanted substitutes.

The audible groans of the United fans when Sanchez was flagged offside against PSG on Tuesday night suggested that patience has almost dwindled into nonexistence at Old Trafford when it comes to the Chilean; most would like to see him wander right out of the club. The only question is whether any club will pay the wages of a soul in pain.

www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-winner-kylian-mbappe-the-anti-neymar

F365’s early winner: Kylian Mbappe, the anti-Neymar

SPOILER: Click to show

“I do not care about the Ballon d’Or, I want the World Cup,” he said as France booked their place in the final with victory over Croatia. The contrast with his PSG teammate Neymar could not be greater. This is a player who left Barcelona basically to be the main man, to give himself the chance to play No. 10, to win individual awards, to strengthen his brand. How ironic then, that the move only took him further away from those individual awards, dropping from third in 2017’s Ballon d’Or rankings to 12th in 2018. Mbappe? He rose from seventh to fourth. Winning a World Cup helps, but basically the boy is bloody brilliant.

His goal against Manchester United was his 14th in the Champions League in just 24 appearances, drawing him level with the original Ronaldo (who took 40 games to reach that number) and taking him within this season’s reach of Ronaldinho and his 18 strikes. Within two seasons we should reasonably expect to find him claiming the scalp of Rivaldo (27). He will still only be 22.

Right now he is still only 20 and not just the greatest young player in world football but very close to being the greatest of all players in world football. Not that he cares. He is just hungry to add to a trophy collection that is already utterly ridiculous – two Ligue Un titles, a World Cup and a couple of domestic trinkets have been claimed as a teenager. Show-off. His ambition to add the Champions League with PSG is palpable, driven not by a selfish greed for glory but a desire to conquer all, particularly with his hometown club.

“We are annoyed because we could have scored a third,” said an unsmiling Mbappe after the 2-0 victory at Old Trafford. He added that “in the last 20 minutes we dropped off a bit physically”, as though winning 2-0 really wasn’t all that. It’s difficult to imagine any other young footballer finding fault with his team’s performance just seconds after the final whistle of a game they had won at a canter. But this is Mbappe and he is notoriously driven by a quest for trophies.

“The Champions League is a dream, a competition that everyone wants to win and that only a minority can win – the most important are the titles,” said an 18-year-old Mbappe in 2017. “That would be much more of an obsession for me than the Ballon d’Or, for example. I want to touch the stars and, when you dream, you do not dream of playing the middle of the table or maintaining it.”

He may not dream of the Ballon d’Or but it is likely to be an inevitable consequence of his phenomenal talent, aided but not defined by the kind of speed that can make you chuckle out loud. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer selected Eric Bailly over Phil Jones for his pace on Tuesday night, but it was akin to selecting a hare instead of a tortoise to chase a panther. Combine that speed with intelligence, an excellent first touch and a striker’s instinct and you arrive at Mbappe, who has already scored 23 goals this season and could end the campaign in 40-plus Messi territory. Those who counter those numbers with ‘it’s only France’ should note that he has also scored against Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool, Juventus and now United. And yes, he is still only 20.

For comparison, Lionel Messi had scored just two Champions League goals by the summer he turned 20. And Cristiano Ronaldo had not scored a single Champions League goal by the summer after his 20th birthday in February.

Kylian Mbappe is just two months into his 20s and has already scored 14 Champions League goals. It’s the kind of achievement that’s only really possible if you come off the pitch ‘annoyed’ that 2-0 did not become 3-0. And it’s the kind of achievement that leaves you in touching distance of those stars.

www.football365.com/news/man-u-legend-psg-loss-proves-jose-was-right-about-one-thing

Peter Schmeichel: PSG loss proves Jose was right about one thing

SPOILER: Click to show

Peter Schmeichel thinks Manchester United’s loss against Paris Saint-Germain on Tuesday night showed that Jose Mourinho was right to plead with the club to sign a new centre-back.

PSG were shorn of Edinson Cavani and Neymar for the first leg of this Champions League last 16 tie but still proved too strong for United as Presnel Kimpembe and Kylian Mbappe secured a 2-0 win at Old Trafford.

Mourinho had publicly rowed with Ed Woodward over their lack of defensive reinforcements in the summer and his time at United eventually came to an end in December after a number of poor performances.

And Schmeichel thinks their “problem” at centre-half was badly “exploited” by PSG on Tuesday, an issue Mourinho identified long before his dismissal.

Schmeichel told BeIn Sports: “I don’t think anyone… you can get carried away because you’re a fan, you’re allowed to be carried away with the 10 wins in 11 games but in the broader perspective we already know Mourinho was fighting to get a centre-half or even two in the summer.

“He was doing that because there is a problem in centre-half or in central defence.

“There are a few guys out there who can do the job but that problem hasn’t gone away. That was exploited today.”

You don't win a PL with a bad defence never mind a CL . We've watched how many years of Pool failing with a poor defence ?

[On a break]

Dirty rats, seems they like smashing the shite out of everything..like Paris I suppose.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/manchester-united-old-trafford-psg-15823831?fbclid=IwAR07duAuoA3l604_E1LM8-1h6rGj4zlgXYoerCl2s604bubmEwKx18q90-k

[Karma]

Feb 13, 2019 14:41:28 GMT On a break said:

Dirty rats, seems they like smashing the shite out of everything..like Paris I suppose.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/manchester-united-old-trafford-psg-15823831?fbclid=IwAR07duAuoA3l604_E1LM8-1h6rGj4zlgXYoerCl2s604bubmEwKx18q90-k

So they have a super rich owner and United have to pay the bill for their fans? Maybe we should repay the favour over there?

[weetomsligaments]

Feb 13, 2019 14:16:48 GMT On a break said:

It's hard to believe how fans like us can see the problems we have that have been around for years yet they have not been addressed?

The CB issue, better midfield players needed, the right wing..why is Sanchez not being tried more on the right because he sure as fuck can't be any worse than he's been on the left.

Hopefully the silver lining here is that Sanchez is surplus to requirements. You could tell that OGS was disappointed. To his core.

Shifting Sanchez will not be easy, however, it is the first step needed to balance the squad.

And Bailly was a shadow last night. Close but not close enough. So many poor positions and a complete lack of urgency to win the ball in the box.

The entire defense was scared of Mbappes speed. It showed in the space they left him after he dropped back to pick up simple passes.

Hopefully Ed can take the Sanchez wage and make a happy camper out of Toby and a RW.

[GeniusCantona]

The only way to sell Sanchez is to get him to agree to go to China, which he won’t. The most likely scenario is a loan deal. I can see the Milan clubs having interest but then we’d also likely have to subsidize a big portion of his wages to make that happen. It’s a shite situation all around.

[ratbag]

Feb 13, 2019 11:11:29 GMT Karma said:

Feb 13, 2019 10:33:55 GMT ratbag said:

Not sure if the glass houses is aimed at me, I guess so...I don't believe I have banged on at every opportunity about Sanchez, Lukaku and the negative Jose...maybe you will do a search and find some stuff but I try not to keep saying the same thing over and over..especially when it is self evident...

As it happens, I agree with you but I did that the first time you wrote it. Writing it another hundred times doesn't make me agree any more...

But equally I get exasperated when I go to the Transfer thread and continually see comments about all these great prospects we should sign but the reality is there’s a good chance 95 % aren’t happening because we have a bloated squad we refuse to address which hinders our transfer activity!

So some clearly aren’t getting it?

Until we shift the 💩 we will continue to be a club flirting with the 6 club alliance and very little else.



Ryan Sessegnon is a left sided player to my knowledge but only a few days ago I read that we should sign him because he’s a great prospect.

We can’t even buy players for the positions we need never mind finding a place for a player who would be in Martial’s role. If he is bought as competition for him then that’s different but we all know the gimps aren’t going to spend that kind of money for 2 players to slug it out for the left side.

I agree entirely with your post...

The only thing about transfers is that I guess we all have an inner muppet who wants this or that great prospect...

I know that the gimps may not give us the funds required but I live in hope as they have shelled out quite a lot in the past, even breaking the existing world record for Pogba...

We just have to spend the money in the positions that we need more quality...

[Monty]

Feb 13, 2019 15:34:58 GMT GeniusCantona said:

The only way to sell Sanchez is to get him to agree to go to China, which he won’t. The most likely scenario is a loan deal. I can see the Milan clubs having interest but then we’d also likely have to subsidize a big portion of his wages to make that happen. It’s a shite situation all around.

I don't care where he goes, I just don't want to see him anywhere near the first team ever again. Relegate him to the reserves if we have to, and hive his minutes to one of the young lads. 

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Manchester United and Paris St Germain have been charged by UEFA following Tuesday night's Champions League clash between the clubs at Old Trafford.

United have been charged with throwing objects and blocking stairways, PSG with throwing objects, setting off fireworks, acts of damage and crowd disturbance.

A beer bottle was thrown from the crowd towards PSG's former United winger Angel Di Maria in the second half of the last-16 first leg, with the Argentinian responding by picking it up and seemingly pretending to take a swig from it.

It has been reported that a bottle of water was subsequently thrown Di Maria's way as well, and an item landed at the feet of United full-back Luke Shaw in the first half of the game, which the visitors won 2-0.

The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body on February 28.

[Bestie]

Feb 13, 2019 16:02:32 GMT . said:

Manchester United and Paris St Germain have been charged by UEFA following Tuesday night's Champions League clash between the clubs at Old Trafford.

United have been charged with throwing objects and blocking stairways, PSG with throwing objects, setting off fireworks, acts of damage and crowd disturbance.

A beer bottle was thrown from the crowd towards PSG's former United winger Angel Di Maria in the second half of the last-16 first leg, with the Argentinian responding by picking it up and seemingly pretending to take a swig from it.

It has been reported that a bottle of water was subsequently thrown Di Maria's way as well, and an item landed at the feet of United full-back Luke Shaw in the first half of the game, which the visitors won 2-0.

The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body on February 28.

I know we should say we're outraged and shit but I'm actually pleased we went after the little rat fuck. The OT crowd is too often too fucking passive and nice. Yeah, yeah wrong way to go about it yadda yadda. Football is tribal. We should act like it more.

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In an email sent out by the official site, they had a quote from Ole that is worlds apart from what Jose would have said. To me it looks like Ole is offering support for two players who came on and did not shine, he's not throwing any player to the wolves, and he's not pretending it's falling apart because no one listened to him. 

With more big games on the horizon, starting with the Emirates FA Cup fifth-round clash at Chelsea next Monday and the next Premier League outing against Liverpool at Old Trafford on 24 February, there must be concern about the availability of two key members of Ole's squad. “You can't give that [the injuries] as a reason [why we lost] because we have players like Mata and Sanchez to come on and they're quality players,” Solskjaer told BT Sport. “But, of course, Jesse and Anthony, they give us something. Let’s hope they’re not too serious. They’re muscle injuries, so we’ll just have to wait a couple of days."

[Karma]

Feb 13, 2019 16:20:54 GMT Bestie said:

Feb 13, 2019 16:02:32 GMT . said:

Manchester United and Paris St Germain have been charged by UEFA following Tuesday night's Champions League clash between the clubs at Old Trafford.

United have been charged with throwing objects and blocking stairways, PSG with throwing objects, setting off fireworks, acts of damage and crowd disturbance.

A beer bottle was thrown from the crowd towards PSG's former United winger Angel Di Maria in the second half of the last-16 first leg, with the Argentinian responding by picking it up and seemingly pretending to take a swig from it.

It has been reported that a bottle of water was subsequently thrown Di Maria's way as well, and an item landed at the feet of United full-back Luke Shaw in the first half of the game, which the visitors won 2-0.

The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body on February 28.

I know we should say we're outraged and shit but I'm actually pleased we went after the little rat fuck. The OT crowd is too often too fucking passive and nice. Yeah, yeah wrong way to go about it yadda yadda. Football is tribal. We should act like it more.

You should have whipped off your lucky pants and smothered the snivelling little rodent with them !